Hands up if vert is giving you 1gpw+ regularly
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osirica420
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1 week veg 10 week flower
A DWC with a vertical 600 watt will yield almost 2 pounds from 5 plants surrounding it...... every cycle
A DWC with a vertical 600 watt will yield almost 2 pounds from 5 plants surrounding it...... every cycle
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DHF
Ok Osirica.......I`ll go for it.....Not saying anything other than show me cuz my hand`s up having prospered many times in the 1.5 gpw range before retirement......but with more plants and light........
Now.....Tell me what size cut and strain was used and taken from mom plant or vegger , how long it took to root , how big it was for that one week veg to end up almost 6 1/4 ozs for a 2 lb per 600 watt vertical bulb yield in a DWC setup cuz it matters in the grand scheme of things...............
Gotta get this shit under control and back into perspective guys cuz apples and oranges ain`t the same nor forgetting about how long it took to get the numbers...........If it`s not timely........Then it`s costly.........period.............
Ya`ll take care.....DHF...
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Now.....Tell me what size cut and strain was used and taken from mom plant or vegger , how long it took to root , how big it was for that one week veg to end up almost 6 1/4 ozs for a 2 lb per 600 watt vertical bulb yield in a DWC setup cuz it matters in the grand scheme of things...............
Gotta get this shit under control and back into perspective guys cuz apples and oranges ain`t the same nor forgetting about how long it took to get the numbers...........If it`s not timely........Then it`s costly.........period.............
Ya`ll take care.....DHF...
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JimBeamKush
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What is up with all of these people wanting to know who is pulling big numbers?
MJ-IN-BLOOM
New member
I have just got to the point where i can get .75-.85 gpw with 8 plants surrounding a 1000 watter. All indica dominant medium to heavy yielders. No co2.
I think the OP needs to understand that alot of us vert guys arent using co2 and super aeroponic hydro setups to get our .6 - .9 GPW. Also alot flat gardeners still have to give it the ol college try in order to even get .5 GPW. So... I am a flat grower who has had one completely failed flat grow and 2 sucessfull flat grows with yields less the .4 GPW. I switched to vert my last grow and i achieved .8 GPW on that grow. I more than doubled my GPW just by setting up vertical.
Now im not saying that everyone will double up just by hanging a bulb vertical, but i am saying that you will increase your yields if you do it right.
My next run i plant to go from soiless/perlite mix to ebb & flow w/hydroton. I also plan to add co2.
Going by conservative estimates that say switching to hydro can increase yield by 20-30% and that co2 can increase yields by 20-30% im guessing that my new setup i will be able to at least increase my yield by a total of 20%.
Im pretty sure that i will see my 1 gpw then.
I think the OP needs to understand that alot of us vert guys arent using co2 and super aeroponic hydro setups to get our .6 - .9 GPW. Also alot flat gardeners still have to give it the ol college try in order to even get .5 GPW. So... I am a flat grower who has had one completely failed flat grow and 2 sucessfull flat grows with yields less the .4 GPW. I switched to vert my last grow and i achieved .8 GPW on that grow. I more than doubled my GPW just by setting up vertical.
Now im not saying that everyone will double up just by hanging a bulb vertical, but i am saying that you will increase your yields if you do it right.
My next run i plant to go from soiless/perlite mix to ebb & flow w/hydroton. I also plan to add co2.
Going by conservative estimates that say switching to hydro can increase yield by 20-30% and that co2 can increase yields by 20-30% im guessing that my new setup i will be able to at least increase my yield by a total of 20%.
Im pretty sure that i will see my 1 gpw then.
I should iron a few things out for clarity.
I ask about this as I used to grow flat, I followed alot of threads from back on OG/CW regarding tree's/ mini trees, coir n hydroton etc etc yada yada. Now I seen grows where the trees yielded 1.25+ gpw.
I have just started reading up on whats going on again and getting a grow together, after moving so I am looking into a vert sog instead of trees as the space is not there for those. Then I see thissection on IC and wondered who had their shit locked, so I could then go onto search their threads etc without having to pm the ballbags off them for info ya dig?
With that out of the way, thanks for the posts guys
Jimbeamksuh if your referring to me see above post.
@ MJ-IN-BLOOM.. Hi man, thanks for your no's. I understand what you are saying regarding vert and high yield association being drawn... What I am trying to tease out here is it seems to me that those who have pulled high gpw no's from these systems are using lots of plants or vegging long... I mean like 65 - 85 plants per 600w for the 1.5+ figures or a shit load of vegging and some big ass trees.
Heath Robinson seems to be getting alot of props at the min for the systems he built and pwned by all accounts (2gpw!) I am looking into building one of his verts.
RMCG, cheers for that link haven't seen a tree grow for a min!
I ask about this as I used to grow flat, I followed alot of threads from back on OG/CW regarding tree's/ mini trees, coir n hydroton etc etc yada yada. Now I seen grows where the trees yielded 1.25+ gpw.
I have just started reading up on whats going on again and getting a grow together, after moving so I am looking into a vert sog instead of trees as the space is not there for those. Then I see thissection on IC and wondered who had their shit locked, so I could then go onto search their threads etc without having to pm the ballbags off them for info ya dig?
With that out of the way, thanks for the posts guys
Jimbeamksuh if your referring to me see above post.@ MJ-IN-BLOOM.. Hi man, thanks for your no's. I understand what you are saying regarding vert and high yield association being drawn... What I am trying to tease out here is it seems to me that those who have pulled high gpw no's from these systems are using lots of plants or vegging long... I mean like 65 - 85 plants per 600w for the 1.5+ figures or a shit load of vegging and some big ass trees.
Heath Robinson seems to be getting alot of props at the min for the systems he built and pwned by all accounts (2gpw!) I am looking into building one of his verts.
RMCG, cheers for that link haven't seen a tree grow for a min!
JimBeamKush
Member
hahah no man I was not trying to hate on you.
Just everyday I get on here someone is asking about who has the biggest grows and such.
Or who has a very efficent one.
Just everyday I get on here someone is asking about who has the biggest grows and such.
Or who has a very efficent one.
MJ-IN-BLOOM
New member
If you are looking to crank up something again i can detail my method. Its simple and hopefully will produce like it is supposed to.
I basically put 10 plants in a circle around a light and got damn near 2 lbs from it.
this is my first round here:
http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=488
I built an alomost identical setup at a fellow paitents house and his garden was full of healthy plants and not sick ones like mine. He yielded more than 2 lbs.
For this next round i have dealt with ALL of the drainage issues ive been suffering from for the last 2 years. Ive always wanted a way to efficiently water and collect run off water so i could flush out soil salts effectively. My buds had been suffering slightly due to irregular salt buildups.
Now that we have figured out a great drainage system we decided to set 15 plants in a figure 8 pattern around 2 1000 watters. Because of the drainage sytem i was able to finally lighten my soil up with chunky perlite so its super light. (5 gallon bucket will only hold 1 gallon of water in soil). The soil dries every other day and i can water frequently and quickly.
Because of the lighter soil and the more frequent feedings i can now lower the EC of my solution(1.3-1.6) so that the plants uptake nutrients more effectively. Growth is faster and in the long run more nutrients are used by the plant because of the frequent feedings. Root zone also gets contact with more oxygen more frequently.
Super simple setup that allows me to take care of 18 girls with ease. Ill put it this way. I can run 2 gallons of water through each of my 15 5 gallon buckets and collect and dispose of all the run off by myself in 25 minutes or less. Thats 30 gallons in less than half an hour. EVERY OTHER DAY
My old garden it took 2 of us an hour plus to water and collect the runoff from just 10 plants in 3 gallon pots.
Im sure this setup will preform the 1 GPW. My next round i am switching to ebb and flow in the same configuration while also using co2 in a CGE room.
Im sure i will get godly yields from what i have seen the single circle method produce.
here is the journal right here.
http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=1487
I basically put 10 plants in a circle around a light and got damn near 2 lbs from it.
this is my first round here:
http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=488
I built an alomost identical setup at a fellow paitents house and his garden was full of healthy plants and not sick ones like mine. He yielded more than 2 lbs.
For this next round i have dealt with ALL of the drainage issues ive been suffering from for the last 2 years. Ive always wanted a way to efficiently water and collect run off water so i could flush out soil salts effectively. My buds had been suffering slightly due to irregular salt buildups.
Now that we have figured out a great drainage system we decided to set 15 plants in a figure 8 pattern around 2 1000 watters. Because of the drainage sytem i was able to finally lighten my soil up with chunky perlite so its super light. (5 gallon bucket will only hold 1 gallon of water in soil). The soil dries every other day and i can water frequently and quickly.
Because of the lighter soil and the more frequent feedings i can now lower the EC of my solution(1.3-1.6) so that the plants uptake nutrients more effectively. Growth is faster and in the long run more nutrients are used by the plant because of the frequent feedings. Root zone also gets contact with more oxygen more frequently.
Super simple setup that allows me to take care of 18 girls with ease. Ill put it this way. I can run 2 gallons of water through each of my 15 5 gallon buckets and collect and dispose of all the run off by myself in 25 minutes or less. Thats 30 gallons in less than half an hour. EVERY OTHER DAY
My old garden it took 2 of us an hour plus to water and collect the runoff from just 10 plants in 3 gallon pots.
Im sure this setup will preform the 1 GPW. My next round i am switching to ebb and flow in the same configuration while also using co2 in a CGE room.
Im sure i will get godly yields from what i have seen the single circle method produce.
here is the journal right here.
http://www.verticalgreen.org/showthread.php?t=1487
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MJ-IN-BLOOM
New member
so if your looking for an entry into vert that requires minimal $ to be spent then holler at me and i can detail the setup for you.
Im thinking about making a noob vertical setup tutorial. I want to make a super detailed noob guide designed for people looking to swithc to vert and keep it simple.
Im thinking about making a noob vertical setup tutorial. I want to make a super detailed noob guide designed for people looking to swithc to vert and keep it simple.
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2fast4u2
I should say that just hanging a light vertically doesnt mean increase in yields.
You would really wann train it up a screen as it grows. Since the screen is vertical, you can flower and just train it as it gets bgger.
You would really wann train it up a screen as it grows. Since the screen is vertical, you can flower and just train it as it gets bgger.
MJ-IN-BLOOM
New member
well i increased my yields by about 50% my first vert grow. And all i really did was veg vertically in a circle, and then flower that way also.
I dont want to say its as simple as that either but... thats really all i did.
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milehighmedical
Well it's hard for me to believe that the light radiating from the upper hemisphere of my bulb magically disappears instead of at least significantly reflecting down below. That would be one thought.
I mean don't get me wrong, I'm in this forum because I'm interested in changing over. But that doesn't mean that there isn't plenty of reasons to grow horizontally. Just remember there is never a best way to do anything.
I hope you come through with that tutorial. That would be pretty helpful to me and others!
I am still impressed by my first true vertical grow using two 600w hps and at the last week went to two 400W MH to reduce temp, stimulate resin, etc, etc.
Never seen plants swallowing SO much light! If walls are covered or painted white the trick increases.
For a while I was scared of so much bud...
Never seen plants swallowing SO much light! If walls are covered or painted white the trick increases.
For a while I was scared of so much bud...
I must add that sativa dominant plants can really shine using this technique.
C-99 with its inherently low aroma would be so sweet for such setting.
I heard that C-99 x NL is also good and even "thicker"!
C-99 with its inherently low aroma would be so sweet for such setting.
I heard that C-99 x NL is also good and even "thicker"!
I get 1-2 gpw per plant horizontally, 1.5gpw overall average....just need the right equipment, genetics, and the know-how.
