San Diego: Jovan Jackson, Dispensary Manager, Not Guilty!

[johnnyla]

that's awesome. they couldn't convict beyond a reasonable doubt because the law is too vague.

i'm sure it will be hard to convict beyond a "reasonable doubt" wether a patient has enough marijuana "consistent with their needs".

great news if you aren't a dying breed aka PROHIBITIONIST.

 

[CalcioErba2004]

It's a great thing she doesn't have the power to do it.

It's time to legalize California. Let's get something on the ballot next year and finally settle this crap once and for all. LEGALIZATION OF CANNABIS IN 2010!

 

[laserbrn]

You guys keep paying $70/8th to these criminals all day long. Like I said, I don't really give a shit. The idea is to provide PATIENTS with chronic illnesses (such as myself) with affordable medication! The pharm. companies get away with making huge profits because of the system they put in place with insurance companies. If I could use my medical insurance to buy my marijuana we wouldn't have a problem. But if I smoke 1/2 oz /wk to help with my MEDICAL problem and I'm being charged the same as the black market, I'm paying $900-$1000 per month for my medication.

Granted, I understand that most of this MMJ shit is a farse and that most of the people that are visiting dispensaries do not have legitimate medical reason and are simply using this as a legal loophole to receive illicit drugs. I don't give a fuck what you guys think, this guy was profiteering and while it's great for your "movement", I DO believe in the true spirit of the law that was passed by the people of California under the pretense of affordable safe access to medication.

So don't think that I care about your movement towards the legalization of marijuana. That's all well and good, but I care FAR more about safe access to affordable marijuana. Right now I have to grow my own to obtain that. I'd rather not to be honest. I have much bigger problems and other things to deal with. If something goes wrong with my grow I'm out $$$$'s in MEDICATION and need to go get it from crooked profiteers and thugs to get my meds. My medical condition puts constraints on my income that it make it impossible for me obtain the medication that relieves my suffering. Someday, you will understand what it means to not be able to afford the medication and/or care that you need.

So don't tell me about the "frontline" of your silly war. I'm on the frontline of my own war. The legalization of Marijuana and the Medical Use of Marijuana are a different war altogether. Do I want them to legalize Marijuana, sure I haven't had any ill effects that I can tell from it and the pharmaceutical drugs that I use (when MMJ just won't cut it) have far worse side effects and are really debilitating in themselves, so I think it should be legal to use it recreationally, but it's a different subject and it's not what THIS case is about.

 

[Surrender]

If she's got any dispensary owners or medical growers in jail right now they need to be released pronto.

Edit: Laser you gotta find a better caregiver. You shouldn't be paying half that much money for a reliable supply.

 

[johnnyla]

You guys keep paying $70/8th to these criminals all day long. Like I said, I don't really give a shit. The idea is to provide PATIENTS with chronic illnesses (such as myself) with affordable medication! The pharm. companies get away with making huge profits because of the system they put in place with insurance companies. If I could use my medical insurance to my marijuana we wouldn't have a problem. But if I smoke 1/2 oz /wk to help with my MEDICAL problem and I'm being charged the same as the black market, I'm paying $900-$1000 per month for my medication.

Granted, I understand that most of this MMJ shit is a farse and that most of the people that are visiting dispensaries do not have legitimate medical reason and are simply using this as a legal loophole to receive illicit drugs. I don't give a fuck what you guys think, this guy was profiteering and while it's great for your "movement", I DO believe in the true spirit of the law that was passed by the people of California under the pretense of affordable safe access to medication.

So don't think that I care about your movement towards the legalization of marijuana. That's all well and good, but I care FAR more about safe access to affordable marijuana. Right now I have to grow my own to obtain that. I'd rather not to be honest. I have much bigger problems and other things to deal with. If something goes wrong with my grow I'm out $$$$'s in MEDICATION and need to go get it from crooked profiteers and thugs to get my meds.

So don't tell me about the "frontline" of your silly war. I'm on the frontline of my own war.

no one is forcing you to buy cannabis. you have a constituional right to grow your own. you can grow your own tomatoes too.

you can make your own green curry at home for 1/10th of the price sold at the Thai Restaurant.

I think you have more choices now than before. No is taking away your choices. You choose to pay top dollar for weed, that's your choice. Not fiscally responsible for me.

Quit whining at take control of your destiny.

 

[laserbrn]

I have taken control, I grow my own medication. It's much more cost efficient. But that's why it was intended to be setup as a not-for-profit. And the $50k isn't a LIMIT, it's the limit to not have to answer to anyone for the justification of your increased salary. You can always make the argument that you need to make $100,000.00 to support your families. The concept was to have patients take care of their own access. But now it's become nearly impossible because the profiteers have come in, gained all the attention and made it very difficult.

I don't know where you live, but in SD, that's what quality meds cost.

It's anywhere from $240/oz (for garbage) - $450/oz (for the BEST shit). If you don't think that's the case, you don't ACTUALLY live here. Even if it's 1/2, you think it's right that a medical patient pay $500/mo for medication?

 

[johnnyla]

i live in LA bro. i know how much it costs. that's why i grow my own for personal use only.

nothing to complain about anymore. i don't know where you got 50k from for a salary cap. that isn't in Prop 215 or SB 420.

The non profit LA City COuncil was thinking of basing their salary caps on was recently admonished for the CEO paying herself over 1.5 million for oneyear. can't wait to see how that goes.

But yeah, most of these places will get shut down, and forensic accountants will retroatively bust a lot of people for tax evasion. That's what happens when you act like it's already legal. The D's made a crap load of money from me over the years so if they are legit and have the legal funds then i hope they succeed. If they aren't, and don't, oh well.

I'm just saying bitching like BlueCop isn't going to help anything. Take matters into your own hands and get out of the system.

 

[laserbrn]

you can make your own green curry at home for 1/10th of the price sold at the Thai Restaurant.

No one forces me to eat green curry. I don't suffer without green curry. Green curry doesn't bring me comfort so that I don't spend every minute of every day nasueated and vomiting. You clearly have no idea what it's like to live like this and to cope with what I cope with. It's debilitating and to make matters worse the only relief I can receive costs up to 50% of the price of GOLD. You notice they only bust the most aggregious offenders making the most profit? It's because patients, the city, and the people around here are sick of it. If you want it legalized, then legalize it.

I don't think anyone should spend time in jail for selling marijuana, but they should for fraud. You can't operate a not-for-profit and make that much profit! It doesn't matter if you simply don't like it or you think $50k/yr isn't enough to get by. That's the standard that's applied to all not-for-profits. My not-for-profity organization that assists with my care doesn't cost as much per month as my meds if I were to buy them from a dispensary.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Laserbrn, this is very tired collectivist crap. It is uncool to want the universe to spend money on police to make sure you can buy MJ at a price you like. It is also a lot of crap to talk about the spirit of a law, especially when the true spirit of that law is unethical and an invasion of personal liberties.

It is uncool to speak ill of someone participating on the frontlines of this battle. But for them you could not WALK into a storefront and pickup up MJ. If you don't like the quality or price don't buy; however it is a joke to think anyone could support a family in San Diego county on $50K a year, how spirited of that law.

Peace,

Well said, people are out of touch with reality in Socal..

i don't know where you got 50k from for a salary cap. that isn't in Prop 215 or SB 420.

Then go study some more...

 

[johnnyla]

No one forces me to eat green curry. I don't suffer without green curry. Green curry doesn't bring me comfort so that I don't spend every minute of every day nasueated and vomiting. You clearly have no idea what it's like to live like this and to cope with what I cope with. It's debilitating and to make matters worse the only relief I can receive costs up to 50% of the price of GOLD. You notice they only bust the most aggregious offenders making the most profit? It's because patients, the city, and the people around here are sick of it. If you want it legalized, then legalize it.

I don't think anyone should spend time in jail for selling marijuana, but they should for fraud. You can't operate a not-for-profit and make that much profit! It doesn't matter if you simply don't like it or you think $50k/yr isn't enough to get by. That's the standard that's applied to all not-for-profits. My not-for-profity organization that assists with my care doesn't cost as much per month as my meds if I were to buy them from a dispensary.

Don't be an Assfuck.

I have incurable retractable pain and a mystery disease immune disorder with no known cure.

You can fuck off bro. I'm declared uninsurable. I can't get insurance. I don't have insurance. I could lose major organs. I probably lost ten years off my life expectancy.

You have no fucking clue bro.

And having said all that, I don't expect anything for free. Sorry the America we grew up in and our parents grew up in is NO MORE. I'm sorry it was all a big ponze scheme and the jobs aren't coming back and every politician is a joke.

I'm saving myself. You get in my way good luck. I'm not in your way. Save yourself.

 

[johnnyla]

These shady operators are done for. FORENSIC ACCOUNTING.

You ever seen most of these people running these joints? You really think they cleaned up their mony so forensic accountants couldn't find it? Sorry, but good luck explaining that mansion and fancy car.

Dude, these folks have it coming to them. You don't have to do anything. Grow your own herb and save your hard earned money.

In LA they may have to grow their own herbs AND not show a profit. Can't wait to see how many are left. I could care less.

 

[Hydrosun]

laserbrn, has 10 posts almost all on this thread and not a shred of help to anyone in this community. He has no photos of his great grow for us to look at. He is as bad as BlueDot and all the other immoral unethical looters and moochers. Funny he still wants to tax his neighbors to imprison growers and distributors. Who knows maybe these haters are being paid by tax dollars this very day.

Peace,

 

[Moldy Dreads]

These shady operators are done for. FORENSIC ACCOUNTING.

You ever seen most of these people running these joints? You really think they cleaned up their mony so forensic accountants couldn't find it? Sorry, but good luck explaining that mansion and fancy car.

Dude, these folks have it coming to them. You don't have to do anything. Grow your own herb and save your hard earned money.

In LA they may have to grow their own herbs AND not show a profit. Can't wait to see how many are left. I could care less.

Dude, that is the single dumbest post I have read in a while. Take your biased, generalizing, ignorant comments over to the Bonnie Dumanis' Facebook page and stay over there please, all you do is speculate on lies. Many clubs in San Diego are following every word their lawyers tell them so they comply to city and county guidelines. You are ignorant to facts and are lying about people you don't know and their practices. Is that called slander? I believe so right? I gave you good rep just to get the karma flowing, but ignore-listed fo sho...

 

[laserbrn]

I apologize if I came off as someone who is against Jovan Jackson or the "fight". I just don't care if these profiteering pricks get fucked with. I've met them, I know what the real deal is, they deserve to get fucked with. I'm glad he got off because no one should go to jail over pot as I stated, or cocaine or anything else.

But for abusing a system and taking part in fraud, yes. Don't present yourself as a not-for-profit when you CLEARLY aren't.

I'm not "against the movement" I'm merely apathetic to this guy. I think the **** that's on the witchhunt to close down dispensaries should choke and die, but I'm all for them busting people for operating OUTSIDE of the parameters.

In Oakland in 2008 there were 4 dispensaries allowed by the city. They reported an annual revenue that year of 28 million dollars. Are you fucking kidding me? And that's not to say they ALL operate this way, just that I'm apathetic to the woes of those who do.

 

[laserbrn]

laserbrn, has 10 posts almost all on this thread and not a shred of help to anyone in this community. He has no photos of his great grow for us to look at. He is as bad as BlueDot and all the other immoral unethical looters and moochers. Funny he still wants to tax his neighbors to imprison growers and distributors. Who knows maybe these haters are being paid by tax dollars this very day.

Peace,

Yeah, you're right guy...I'm new to this game because I just joined this forum. You've been here for less than six months, get the hell outta here. The people that are operating within the true legal parameters of a not-for-profit are my HEROES. The others are committing a crime not related to the drugs they sell, but to the business practices they participate in.

If you want to find my grow's, google my name. I won't promote or link to another forum from here. Ya ignorant bastard.

 

[Hydrosun]

Yeah, you're right guy...I'm new to this game because I just joined this forum. You've been here for less than six months, get the hell outta here. The people that are operating within the true legal parameters of a not-for-profit are my HEROES. The others are committing a crime not related to the drugs they sell, but to the business practices they participate in.

If you want to find my grow's, google my name. I won't promote or link to another forum from here. Ya ignorant bastard.

I am glad we don't have the same heros. You are the true criminal. You would use a gun to lock up your neighbor and even worse you would tax everyone in the community to pay for your police and your laws.

You and your kind are operating against all moral and ethical tenants of natural law, our universe and our species.

So you care that Hydrosun and his 700+ posts have been around only since July 09. Well Mr. March 09. You may not know what this photo means, or the fact that production not theft or looting, is what I'm about; but I'm not leaving this community and I certainly wouldn't surrender it to immoral criminals such as yourself.

That photo was dated May 14th 2002 with my Overgrow homepage and MY harvest. So besides not promoting another forum, you are too lazy or selfish to share your grow here on ICmag; but tell me to go away?

Peace,

 

[laserbrn]

Thanks for reiterating my point that you're a moron for assuming I'm new to this game by my join date. I get that you don't care for our current system of laws.

We don't need to discuss it anymore as we are pretty clear here. I don't care what criminals do and get charged with, you don't like the system that charges them.

Using marijuana as your basis for that has no effect on me. I don't really care that you are for a lawless system where anyone can do what they want.

I won't be responding to your posts in the future because you in my eyes are a radicalist and don't have any perspective RELATIVE to this case. You'd just rather see no courts, no lawyers, no judges, no laws, prisons, police, fire, schools or other forms of organized government. Okay...that makes discussions difficult in our system of laws, prisons, police, far, schools and other forms of organized government. So when discussing issues related to this you don't really have anythin to add....we know you think it shouldn't exist?

If you'd like to start a thread about THAT subject, I'd certainly participate and I would welcome your opinions, thoughts and ideals, but it's not what this discussion is about. And I fear that most of your discussions will all end there anyway, so let's just discuss THAT on another thread so we can move past this. Your battle and your beliefs are much larger than this issue. It's not stealing to want safe access to affordable medication.

And about not sharing my grow: I just joined this forum or started participating rather. I haven't had a chance to put up a full grow log yet, but my introduction email has pictures of my current grow if you took the time to read through the only 10 posts that I have had here. Guess you should do your homework huh? That was I believe my FIRST post.

 

[Hydrosun]

This thread is exactly about our current system of laws and jury nullification among other things.

I happen to love San Diego and was there watching my Chargers lose to the Broncos. Fortunately for me I went to the game with an ICmager and we smoked great weed and had a blast.

It is perfect that a jury in San Diego stood up and said "NO" the real ridiculous sad fact is that this isn't going on in 100% of MJ cases.

I never made anarchist claims of NO GOVERNMENT, please read that I have only written that infringing on ANYONES use or possession of MJ in any way is immoral and unethical.

Anyone on ICmag who believes that ANY human should be locked up for growing, possessing, using, or selling MJ should please have some compassion and forgive any and all MJ activity and NOT imprison their brothers.

I will leave discussion to driving and other crazy topics inserted by others to other threads. But I really would love to see laserbrn or BlueDot clog this thread up just one time with some of THEIR MJ PRODUCTION photos.

Legal discussion is perfect for this thread, and I will let my analysis of the legal system, natural law, and mans metaphysics speak for itself.

I have challeged people in this community to defend the practice of locking up human beings for growing, posessing, using, or distributing MJ! All I hear from the haters is we need to cage or kill some MJ producers because we don't like what they do with their production. This is the only argument I have heard and it is immoral, unethical, and against natural law.

This disgusting thought process is thought of as legal by many, but thankfully not this San Diego jury.


Peace,

 

[Fuzz420]

Granted, I understand that most of this MMJ shit is a farse and that most of the people that are visiting dispensaries do not have legitimate medical reason and are simply using this as a legal loophole to receive illicit drugs.

I smoke to get high! Go f#&k yourself.

summed up pretty well in that thread

 

[MrBomDiggitty]

true dat, america is a big ponze