the Hand Watering coco thread

[oddsman]

once a day. they are in fairly small 4"x4"x5.5" square pots. Let me ask you this. As of right now I am only using Cal-Mag Plus, Pure Blend Pro Grow and Liquid Karma with RO 0ppm water and all added in that order. What is the recommended ppm of Cal-Mag Plus that i should be starting with? Seeing how I can't go off what the bottle says or else I start with 450ppm water!!!

I'm using 20 oz containers for relatively large plants, and I also hand water with a mild nutrient solution once a day (I live in a dry environment and they need it). I avoid wasting supplies whenever possible so my runoff is usually around 10-20%. I need to flush with filtered water at least every 3rd day, and I think they may like to be flushed ever day. If I let it go 5 or 6 days before flushing out leftover salts from the nutrients, the leaves begin to discolor and burn like yours (not as bad, but I'm quick to flush before it gets worse).

If you're SURE you don't have a PH issue (it looks a little like low PH burn), cut away the end of the leaves that are burnt so it's easier to tell if you're making improvements and flush right before you water every day for a week or two. If the daily pre-flush helps your plants, something is obviously building up in your coco and killing your girls.

 

[metal_god69]

I'm using 20 oz containers for relatively large plants, and I also hand water with a mild nutrient solution once a day (I live in a dry environment and they need it). I avoid wasting supplies whenever possible so my runoff is usually around 10-20%. I need to flush with filtered water at least every 3rd day, and I think they may like to be flushed ever day. If I let it go 5 or 6 days before flushing out leftover salts from the nutrients, the leaves begin to discolor and burn like yours (not as bad, but I'm quick to flush before it gets worse).

If you're SURE you don't have a PH issue (it looks a little like low PH burn), cut away the end of the leaves that are burnt so it's easier to tell if you're making improvements and flush right before you water every day for a week or two. If the daily pre-flush helps your plants, something is obviously building up in your coco and killing your girls.

Thanks for the advice. Question for you though, when you do the pre-flush, do you water untill your run-off is close to 0ppm? Also I am noticing that the ppm of my runoff is sometimes 100ppm less the what I am feeding it with, any idea's what that means?

Thanks again oddsman

 

[Sativa_Grows]

Hey guys(and gals), coco noob here.
Not quite sure what nutes to use if I'm going to switch over from soil. I have Neptune's Harvest nutes on hand, are these OK to use or am I going to have to buy nutes made specifically for coco?
Thanks in advance!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

its allways adviceable to use coco specific nutes.

 

[dodo5678]

question about salt buildups and coco coir

question about salt buildups and coco coir

As soon as I have time, money, room and have sourced out what all I need... I'm planning on giving it a try. Though I'm more inclined to stick with organic soils for the most part, due to simplicity of keeping the grow going. (No real worries about PH issues and such) It's nice to be able to leave the plants alone for a couple days if needed without really worrying about it.

Seems like it would be an ideal coco solution though, from what I've heard the smartvalve/autopot works well with soil, never really letting it dry out which should carry over to coco.

I'm not sure if it would be better to run a dilute nute solution in the res for the flooding, or just use regular water for that and add the nutes via hand watering. Somewhat concerned about potential salt buildups or burn though.

Here's a quick link to the smartvalve: Click

Hey all. I'm new to these boards trying to find out more information about coco coir. I'm currently using the Autopot setup with coco coir and perlite.

Recently, I believe I ran into this issue with salt buildup and burn as one of my plants got fried. Is this common for coco coir? or just in combination with Autopots?

I'm also curious if anyone knows how I can avoid mishaps like this in the future... I thought I made a good decision to go with coco coir and Autopots for simplicity and being straight forward... Seems like every setup has it's quarks.

 

[CannaCompulsory]

Im a first time coir user(1 week now) and noticed that im getting about 70% runoff each water even though the coir is pretty dry, and seemingly to suckup a lot of h20.
Seems like im wasting a lot of h20. Plus its a hassle handwatering and draining most the water.
Im using mostly b'cuzz with pearlite at a ratio of 5:1.
Any ideas? I think maybe getting some auto drip units going would be much more conservative on the h20 consumption. I see there is drip w/ coco slabs thread, but how about with the potted coir.. anybody have this setup and have some advice? Thanks!

"ET SO STONED"

 

[3dDream]

CannaCompulsory - Look into bottom feeding as a second option.

 

[CannaCompulsory]

CannaCompulsory - Look into bottom feeding as a second option.

Will do.. ty3d

 

[metal_god69]

I am happy to report that my AK-48 fem has bounced back amazingly. A Couple weeks ago i ran out of RO water and needed to use my 250ppm tap water and I think it started to get better since then. I have switched back to RO water but this time I am adding the 5ml/g of Cal-Mag Plus like the bottle recommends which brings my ppm to 280ish (sounds high?) so i think it was a lack of cal-mag initially on my part. I think i was only using 80-100ppm of it. I am using 7.5ml/g of Liquid Karma and 10ml/g of Pure Blend Pro Grow which hits my desired 870ppm. I also recently started using 8ml/g of Hygrozyme (Grozym) enzyme supplement so maybe that has something to do with the great recovery?!?!

I also added 10ml/g of AN Voodoo Juice and 1tsp of both AN Tarantula and AN Piranha. I will not add those anymore during veg, and only once mid way through flower. The Liquid Carb should keep the microbes/fungi alive.

Anyways, I now offically love this Botanicare Coco i have . Roots are growing like mad!!!!

Cheers all

 

[CannaCompulsory]

..A Couple weeks ago i ran out of RO water and needed to use my 250ppm tap water and I think it started to get better since then... I also recently started using 8ml/g of Hygrozyme (Grozym) enzyme supplement so maybe that has something to do with the great recovery?!?!...

Thats cool to hearMaybe it was the trace minerals in your tap water that helped. If so, tap verse RO in this case proves the old theory of keeping it simple sometimes is best.
Happy Nugs!

 

[ashland]

Coco Newb here

Coco Newb here

my question is , I have a PH test and adjust ,, but as far as ppm is concerned , to grow in coco coir do I have to get something else besides a ph tester and is it inexpensive? I really need general advice , I have canna A n B , coco , I will be using tapwater , Thanks peeps
ash

 

[Calimed]

You don't need a ppm meter for coco for sure.

 

[CannaCompulsory]

.. but as far as ppm is concerned , to grow in coco coir do I have to get something else besides a ph tester and is it inexpensive?
ash

I've seen them on the interweb for about 50 beans (US beans)
You might not need one but they are always fun to have : )

 

[powdered donut]

You can get an EC meter on ebay for 20 bucks. I bought a cheapo one about 6 months ago and it is very reliable and accurate.

 

[ashland]

Thanx ,,,, but do I NEEED IT ?

Thanx ,,,, but do I NEEED IT ?

This is a huge site cum on peeps , I just need a little confidence before I start putting my plants in coco coir ,
do I need an EC meter ?
Can I just use tap water calmag and Canna A n B nutes ? I just need confidence , Ive got everything ready , even cuttings , but Im just not sure , Thanx in advance

 

[Mariojack]

ariated solution ph level

ariated solution ph level

hey guys this is my first post so i hope i got it in the right place im hand watering in coco so here goes more of a general feed question really, ive just started ariating my tap water/feed and it seems to push up the ph so am lowering more to get to 5.8/5.9 but then i seem to be getting unusually low run off ph level can anyone shed some light on this for a grateful novice cheers in advance for any advice if more info is needed please just let me know cheers guys.great thread by the way av read most of it very informative great stuff!

 

[metal_god69]

This is a huge site cum on peeps , I just need a little confidence before I start putting my plants in coco coir ,
do I need an EC meter ?
Can I just use tap water calmag and Canna A n B nutes ? I just need confidence , Ive got everything ready , even cuttings , but Im just not sure , Thanx in advance

Having a EC or PPM meter is always a good thing. Sure you can get away without it, but it makes dialing in you mix way easier. If you run a reservoir that you pull your nutes out of daily and hand water with, then I would say invest in a PPM. if you mix you nutes fresh everyday for hand watering I think you can get away with out it.

If you are using tap water you may not need cal-mag depending on what the PPM of your tap water is. There.....one more good reason to buy a ppm meter!!! Cal-Mag is needed for RO or distilled water with low ppm. The RO i use is 0ppm, so that means anything that was beneficial to plant(calcium, magnesium, iron, boron, etc) are gone, so you need to compensate for their loss with Cal-Mag. I would reccoemend looking at Advanced Nutrients SensiCal over Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus. I also would like to try General Organics CalMg as it would be nice to have that as an organic to go with the rest of my mix.

thats my 2 cents

 

[metal_god69]

hey guys this is my first post so i hope i got it in the right place im hand watering in coco so here goes more of a general feed question really, ive just started ariating my tap water/feed and it seems to push up the ph so am lowering more to get to 5.8/5.9 but then i seem to be getting unusually low run off ph level can anyone shed some light on this for a grateful novice cheers in advance for any advice if more info is needed please just let me know cheers guys.great thread by the way av read most of it very informative great stuff!

I rarely ever check the pH of my runoff in coco. How much runoff are you allowing to come out before you check it? After you check it, discard the runoff and pump more water through it and check that instead of mixing it in with the old run off you previously tested. Will give you more accurate numbers. Be more concerned about the pH going into coco then the runoff ph. If it were ppm it would be the opposite as I check ppm of the runoff everytime i feed. I water untill i get the same ppm coming out as i put in. Not sure if that would be true to pH runoff though.

Cheers

 

[Mariojack]

cheers for quick responce metal_god i always disgard run off before running more water through got what you are saying there but even before i water if i ph level my tap water then leave it to ariate for a few hours it seems to push the ph back up or even if i just let water stand and ariate before adding ph or anything it seems to go up from original reading when first out of the tap. so am having to ad more ph down to get to 5.8/5.9 am wondering about this really, the girls seem fine so im not overly concerned more curious cheers in advance.

 

[ashland]

thanx peeps

thanx peeps

I bought one , rather be safe than sorry , the info is appriciated , keep it coming