10k Watts, 10 Gal CoCo Pots, 30 Third Dimension

[MaLaN]

hahaha, the more I read the more inspired I get...

I was thinking of starting a set up close to that but with 600 watt systems, veg 2 months, and flower them in 7Gal containers in the 2+ system... I've done mad research and I cant wait to start.

Damn electricity bill... Cali = .13Cents a KWH

for 10k + fans and other appliances = about 600$ a month lol

Thanks for sharing bro, greatly appreciated from my part

 

[motofox16]

Props!

Props!

whoo finally finished reading the entire 5 pages and got my jaw up off the floor. I love reading about someone who has gone against the usual way and succeeded. definitely going to try it with little or no runoff this time. I am kinda curious, I have a product called hygrozyme that claims to do the same cleaning out of the salts, just wonding if you've ever used this product or another product in that line-up.
On another note, I have a sealed room so my question might be slightly out of line, but if i were to be able to cool my room effectively enough, do you think vertical bare bulbs will produce better, than having them horizontal inside hoods. I have mine running in 6" air cooled hoods right now, but as i look at your crop your yielding like a whole almost pound per light more than me. experience aside, which i have little of, there has to be something else haha. Do you think it will be a huge difference though. I just built my growroom to specs to fit in my air cooled hoods and everything but just looking at your setup it looks like they are recieving more light. My lights are sideways and only half the bulbs are pointed towards the light. Your whole bulb is exposed and not going through glass. Just wondering if this is hindering my crops more than i think. Thanks

 

[krunchbubble]

wow! this thread is still going? thanks for all the replies!

ajc0k - it is really inefficient if you have smaller plants i believe. thinking about it, with large plants and the bulbs just above the tops lights the whole plant up. maybe its not so inefficient? but compared to my vertical grows, this is very inefficient.

motofox16 - hygrozyme is a completely different product then drip clean. i would ditch your reflectors and get some cool tubes. make your room vertical! check out my albums. i get 2+ lb's per light in my vertical rooms without co2...

 

[greenthumb2]

im amazed you get such growth out of such crappy setup. no offence but bare bulbs, sideways is about as ineffeciant as you can get.
do you care? are you paying for power?

on the positive...
looks like a lovely crop, bigass bushes. only minor cal def. quite amazing for such big beasts.

still very puzzled as to why someone with as many posts as you would make this comment? this method of hanging the bulbs vertical is highly effective especially if you use the stadium method. i think krunch's yield proves that this particular setup is Highly effective.

Imust say i am partial to this design and have tossed out my reflectors in search of "more light"

 

[greenthumb2]

wow! this thread is still going? thanks for all the replies!

ajc0k - it is really inefficient if you have smaller plants i believe. thinking about it, with large plants and the bulbs just above the tops lights the whole plant up. maybe its not so inefficient? but compared to my vertical grows, this is very inefficient.

motofox16 - hygrozyme is a completely different product then drip clean. i would ditch your reflectors and get some cool tubes. make your room vertical! check out my albums. i get 2+ lb's per light in my vertical rooms without co2...

I think you are correct about it being in effecent with smaler plants but i think this way is key to getting max yields out of less plants

 

[SneakySneaky]

Sweet grow. I had 3d a while back and never had her herm on me which pheno do u have?? From what I remember 3d smells like apollo13 which smells kinda like romulan and there's no mistakin her dankness. Congrats on the trees mang, I run h&g aquaflakes in my coco and it destroys also! I use modified hand watering, 1000 gph pump nozzle and adjustable timer gives my babies about 1.2 liters per minute per site, so 4 mins on per day and I save my back a lotta pain. Keep it frosty

 

[whatissixbynine]

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[humboldtlocal]

Wow Krunch, you are a busy beaver. Great job.

 

[opt1c]

Krunch; what is your final verdict on the pots now that the weight is in? 5gals in the future or stick to the 3s??

 

[SkizOflan]

You must need some killer sunglasses to work in that room, god dang!

 

[B. Self Reliant]

What an inspiration! Thanks for sharing with all of us. . . really eye-opening.

 

[turbolaser4528]

yeah krunch get some!!! bout to get me a spg cross finally, cant wait to give you some competition! haha jk man enjoy the smoke

 

[3BM]

Let me just say

Nicely done brother. Im not a coco guy at all, but seeing these results makes me question my interest level to this point. Should I think harder about pure coco? I had always avoided it because of potential nutrient issues, is the H@G line a coco specific line (Im not familiar with it at all)? Does coco use more Ca Mg than most mediums? Sorry if these are basic q's but inquiring minds want to know. If I used my normal nutrients (non coco nutes) on this medium should I adjust for this difference?

Finally, on flushing cant you just water and let the water dissolve the salts into food for the plants again? I used to treat my rock wool that way, just plain water every other day and they seemed to eat the salts right up ... just wondering on that one.

Thanks for the great show brother, rock on!!


EDIT: Oops a little late on this one ... still a great read tho, thx

 

[Gr33nman]

VERY nice!

 

[transplant]

I added a vertical bulb in between horizontal bulbs & where the vert bulb was it was 2x's as thick

 

[KosmoKramer]

How do people get away with a 1k a month electric bill and not raise any eyebrows? I'd say he probably had an illegal hookup. No way a bill THAT high isn't going to get someone's attention

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

It's stealing electricity and late payments that raise eyebrows more than high bills. Pay your bills on time.

 

[turbolaser4528]

How do people get away with a 1k a month electric bill and not raise any eyebrows? I'd say he probably had an illegal hookup. No way a bill THAT high isn't going to get someone's attention

there's lots of legitimate reasons for an elctric bill that high, not to mention there are plenty of people with 20+ lights in Cali and its a medical state so not really anything to be concerned over.


great grow krunch, i like the style, simple and very effective. cheers bud

 

[PoisonedDart]

Impressive at the very least...

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Digitalhippie - no offense taken, it is an inefficient way to grow, but i had big plants to begin with. 1 3/4 lb's per light, is not to bad, on old bulbs and an inefficient way to grow though. this is not the normal way i grow, i do the vertical thing....

its still a lovely garden, healthy plants, everythings looking good.

im amazed you get such growth out of such crappy setup. no offence but bare bulbs, sideways is about as ineffeciant as you can get.
do you care? are you paying for power?



haha respectfully disagree. crappy set up? whats he missing a bunch or 4x8 trays and pumps? then would it be less crappy? 16lb off 10lights with 30 plants? pretty effecient if you ask me.

from someone in the gpw club who rocks barb bulbs, im puzzled by your post

whos talking about trays??
the design of the bulb is to spit light out sideways from the sodium core, and if its vertical and plants are belowand light is coming out sidewayswith the bulbs above the plants there only getting reflected light, with way less lumins.

its still an okay setup. yield is there.

sweeeet grow krunch.. props bro



if u don't mind me asking krunch, not trying to hijack anything here..

why are bare bulbs so inefficient in a flat garden according to digital? it doesnt seem like it lol 16 lbs god damn just curious cuz im thinking of doing 5k vertical bare bulb with 15 or so plants in coco 5 gallon pots vegged for 6-7 weeks under a 1k mh. versus 5k in hoods, same 6-7 week veg times.. which would be better performance?

the light isnt going into the plants its going everywhere. theres a reason %99 of reflectors keep the bulbs horizontal.
doesnt really matter i wanted to know why he chose that, he said hes used to verticle, good enough for me.

still very puzzled as to why someone with as many posts as you would make this comment? this method of hanging the bulbs vertical is highly effective especially if you use the stadium method. i think krunch's yield proves that this particular setup is Highly effective.

Imust say i am partial to this design and have tossed out my reflectors in search of "more light"

"more light" going where??? he probably has ENOUGH lumins, and its not really bad, but with the bulbs above the crop.. verticle.. there spitting lumins out lateraly, above the plants.

all im saying is if he had the horizontal w/ or w/out reflectors the lumin count would be a bit higher.
id bet my life there isnt 500lumins 4inches down from the top of the plant.

again, doesnt mean anything is wrong, or its bad, as i followed up saying hes got some fuckin huge bushes, cant talk any shit on that.
everything still looks fuckin awsome.

i do regret asking if hes even paying for power, sounded dickish. didnt mean it like that.