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UPDATED:New Los Angeles Medical Marijuana Draft Ordinance

johnnyla

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well he is posting under Rich Rich, BLue Dot, maybe Fatigues.

quit wasting tax payer money trolling message boards you fucking pigs. go do your job.

later porky pigs.

and can an ADMIN please verify they are not coming from the same IP address.

goddamn cops.
 
so 30 to 40 dispensaries is epidemic in a city of over a million but god knows how many alcohol/tobacco stores in the same area are ok? who is bluedot and why whenever i read threads is he/she trying to degrade the efforts of the medical cannabis movement. literally i would assume someone with such atttitudes is a leo or deeply confused or probably both. this same poster(bluedot) goes on to defend big pharma you have got to be kidding me do some reasearch on the matter before spouting nonsense.:dueling:
 

pugnacious

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I hate cops. But I do respect them. They usually back up there talk. I guess pigs like blue dot are scared of going after gang bangers, organized crime, chesters, meth/crack heads and real criminals.

Anyone that considers the MMJ scene here an epedemic soley because a large amount of them exist are fucking retarded. Like I said earlier Are elementary kids smoking up and chowing down on edibles? What epidemic is there?
 

johnnyla

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blue cop is just too fat to chase a gang banger, probably is a bad shot, and slow on the draw. hence these types go after the weak and harmless. shame on them.

there are plenty of police and LEO who are upstanding citizens and go after real criminals. unfortunately, a few of them make a bad name for the rest. they should just keep off of these boards.
 
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Blue Dot

Comparatively speaking? I want to know when San Diego became the model for MMJ??


By that logic when did LA become the model for MMJ?

You act like just because of the sheer numbers LA must be correct.

Kind of a weird arguement don't you think?
 

pugnacious

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Blue dot, I just want to apoligize for personally attacking you. But thats just me.

That being said. Dont even try to speak on "logic". Go back to your 400w cab grow, and keep on trying to "overgrow" the planet from your closet.

The fact is, the average patient or person doesnt have the resources to grow bud. I dont get why thats so hard for you to compute. But im really not trying to debate basic principles of economics and socialist ideology tonite.

Your opinions represent uniformed society on MMJ. and the saddest thing about it is that you are not uniformed, you just cant stand the idea of paying for bud. Because of that, you think there is an epidemic.

Like I said. Do not even speak on logic.
 

anikas88

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Ok blue dot what is your solution then? grow your own? great i love it, but what about for those who cannot grow there own? i personally would love for 1/8 go down to 20 bucks, i think that dispensaries are not a problem just their prices.
 

pugnacious

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Allot of it goes on the growers, not us dispensaries. There the ones asking 5k a lb. If assholes like cooley, Trutanich and blue dot would stop waving there little moral penises around scaring us evil dispensaries. Maybe we could grow it and offer it at better prices. Until the heat dies down. This is just how it is. A staff of employees, armed security guards, rent, power, and all the expenses of running a dispensary costs money. Until this MMJ issue here in LA county gets settled down. This is just how its going to be.


And trust me, once this shit finally settles down. We can focus on quality.. not quantity.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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Just a hater folks, thats all it is. Whiny in every single thread, cry me a river. Get off your hump and make a difference in your own life, quit expecting others to provide for you. If you pulled up next to blue dot in a convertible with a blonde smiling blue dot's stomach would turn. Let these people make millions and live happy lives for the risk they take, your just mad cause it isn't you. Get off your hump, set a goal.
 

deejaycruise

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I don't believe the regulations go far enough to protect the patients. There should be random testing of coops meds for pestitcides and if any found the place needs to be shuttered. They would have no argument because they either grew it themselves and knew it or they bought it from some shady grower they should not have, either way they put at risk the health of all members of the collective. We could only hope after loosing their cash cow they in turn ruin the bastard that used the pesticide inappropriately that caused them to be shuttered. When you think about it growers are the ones responsible for the pesticide so the main concern of the city regulations should be to stop growers from providing to collectives. Damn growers who asks thousands for pounds of medicine that grow on bushes ruining it for collectives operating non profit. It just don't seem fare to punish the non profit collectives when the bad guys are the growers and their outrageous prices.
 

vta

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By that logic when did LA become the model for MMJ?

Your the one comparing cites....silly really.



Because there are allot of clubs, I now have better choices....to help what ails me. At a cheaper price now before there were so many clubs.

so....lower prices, easier access and better meds....that's your epidemic huh?:weakestli
 

pugnacious

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I don't believe the regulations go far enough to protect the patients. There should be random testing of coops meds for pestitcides and if any found the place needs to be shuttered. They would have no argument because they either grew it themselves and knew it or they bought it from some shady grower they should not have, either way they put at risk the health of all members of the collective. We could only hope after loosing their cash cow they in turn ruin the bastard that used the pesticide inappropriately that caused them to be shuttered. When you think about it growers are the ones responsible for the pesticide so the main concern of the city regulations should be to stop growers from providing to collectives. Damn growers who asks thousands for pounds of medicine that grow on bushes ruining it for collectives operating non profit. It just don't seem fare to punish the non profit collectives when the bad guys are the growers and their outrageous prices.


I agree, I wish there was some type of lab testing for the dispensaries. But until something realistic shows up (affordable), you are going to have to depend on staff like me to spot it out when these "patients with extra meds" come thru.

I truely do not see that much of an issue of whats going on in LA. The numbers dont lie. This is what the majority of residents want in LA. Easy and safe access to a wide variety of high quality medication. With so many dispensaries to chose from, the shady ones will get weeded out eventually. Not by the cops but by the patients.

I do agree there needs to be more hands on regulation within the collectives and dispensaries. But how things are now, its unrealistic and childish to ask them to grow there own for the members. When the heat is on like this you just tread carefully and wait for it to cool down.
 
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Blue Dot

so....lower prices, easier access and better meds....that's your epidemic huh?:weakestli

Well yeah, if more clubs = lower prices and better selection then the arguement is that the ends justifies the means and if more criminals are getting rich in the process then I agree that it's an epidemic because I don't believe the ends justifies the means.


It's like going to war in iraq for oil.

Does the ends (keeping gas at <$3.00/gallon) justify the means (killing people for their resources)?

So does the ends (providing people with a previously illegal drug) justify the means, (shady criminals making money off a vaguely worded law?)
 
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Blue Dot

This is what the majority of residents want in LA. Easy and safe access to a wide variety of high quality medication.


You mean easy and safe access to an previously illegal (now quasi legal) controlled substance.
 

Tuggo

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Well yeah, if more clubs = lower prices and better selection then the arguement is that the ends justifies the means and if more criminals are getting rich in the process then I agree that it's an epidemic because I don't believe the ends justifies the means.


It's like going to war in iraq for oil.

Does the ends (killing people for their resources) justify the means (keeping gas at <$3.00/gallon)?

So does the ends (providing people with a previously illegal drug) justify the means, (shady criminals making money off a vaguely worded law?)

Officers of the law are here to protect and serve.

Every day men women and children die in our cities and towns for numerous reasons that the majority of humankind would consider vile and evil.

If you are successful in shutting down all collectives/coops, and protecting the world from the overpaid, shady drug dealers in disguise selling smokable cyanide, will your ends justify the means?

Do you believe that locking these people up or insuring that no money is made by this movement will improve someone's community?
 
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Blue Dot

If you are successful in shutting down all collectives/coops, and protecting the world from the overpaid, shady drug dealers in disguise selling smokable cyanide, will your ends justify the means?

If the shady are shut down the public perception will be that it can be legit and that will be a good thing in the long run.

The ends is not that everyone has access to MJ in the short term, the ends is that the public recognizes that it can be done the way big pharma is done and they will accept it and then stop fighting it.
 

johnnyla

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I don't believe the regulations go far enough to protect the patients. There should be random testing of coops meds for pestitcides and if any found the place needs to be shuttered. They would have no argument because they either grew it themselves and knew it or they bought it from some shady grower they should not have, either way they put at risk the health of all members of the collective. We could only hope after loosing their cash cow they in turn ruin the bastard that used the pesticide inappropriately that caused them to be shuttered. When you think about it growers are the ones responsible for the pesticide so the main concern of the city regulations should be to stop growers from providing to collectives. Damn growers who asks thousands for pounds of medicine that grow on bushes ruining it for collectives operating non profit. It just don't seem fare to punish the non profit collectives when the bad guys are the growers and their outrageous prices.


you're an imbecile
 

johnnyla

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I don't believe the regulations go far enough to protect the patients. There should be random testing of coops meds for pestitcides and if any found the place needs to be shuttered. They would have no argument because they either grew it themselves and knew it or they bought it from some shady grower they should not have, either way they put at risk the health of all members of the collective. We could only hope after loosing their cash cow they in turn ruin the bastard that used the pesticide inappropriately that caused them to be shuttered. When you think about it growers are the ones responsible for the pesticide so the main concern of the city regulations should be to stop growers from providing to collectives. Damn growers who asks thousands for pounds of medicine that grow on bushes ruining it for collectives operating non profit. It just don't seem fare to punish the non profit collectives when the bad guys are the growers and their outrageous prices.

if this is true where do you get your information? where are you siting this nonsense.
 
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Blue Dot

Originally Posted by deejaycruise
I don't believe the regulations go far enough to protect the patients. There should be random testing of coops meds for pestitcides and if any found the place needs to be shuttered. They would have no argument because they either grew it themselves and knew it or they bought it from some shady grower they should not have, either way they put at risk the health of all members of the collective.

you're an imbecile


Why, because the costs of testing would lessen the D's profit?

You do realize that is the pure definition of greed don't you?

There are costs to doing any business.

Trying to lessen them at the expense of someones health is vulgar.
 

johnnyla

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If the shady are shut down the public perception will be that it can be legit and that will be a good thing in the long run.

The ends is not that everyone has access to MJ in the short term, the ends is that the public recognizes that it can be done the way big pharma is done and they will accept it and then stop fighting it.

you ever get tired of your own drivel?
 

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