Check this company out..

[FreedomFGHTR]

Big Agribusiness is already in the Cannabiz...

http://www.prairieplant.com/index.html

http://www.prairieplant.com/cannimed-medicinal-marijuana.html

 

[richyrich]

Nice. $ goes where $ is.


CanniMed™ - Medicinal Marijuana

Prairie Plant Systems Inc. is Health Canada's contracted manufacturer of Medicinal Marijuana (Cannimed™).


Prairie Plant Systems Inc. (PPS) is a biotechnology company with Canadian and US facilities dedicated to the principle of manufacturing pharmaceuticals derived from harvestable plants grown in biosecure GMP production facilities. This core business activity is organized under the operational title BioPharm Division.

Our current projects are managed in Biosecure growth chambers in three locations, two in Canada and a fully owned large operation in Michigan, USA. Having effective environmental isolation from influences such as day length, allows for multi-cropping in chambers, constant monitoring and feedback control conditions for optimal growth. Advances in electronic control systems have been implemented to provide consistency for a number of environmental parameters, such as, light quality and relative humidity. These systems also provide for constant harvest production events, data logging, and reporting. Biologicals can be produced within the Company’s two platforms or on a contract growing basis.

The Company also has two other divisions which include BioProducts, which manages the micropropagation for a wide range of plants and the Environment Division, responsible for phytoremediation, revegetation, and reclamation projects of disturbed industrial sites.

Look at those donkey colas.^^^

 

[Blue Dot]

Having effective environmental isolation from influences such as day length,....

Couldn't they just have said indoor? lol

 

[enojadoperro]

Can't charge the government crazy prices if you use normal terms.
Call it a multi directional variable impact device and it's $700, call it a hammer and it's $17.

 

[Grizvok]

Can't charge the government crazy prices if you use normal terms.
Call it a multi directional variable impact device and it's $700, call it a hammer and it's $17.

Ain't it the truth.

 

[richyrich]

Can't charge the government crazy prices if you use normal terms.
Call it a multi directional variable impact device and it's $700, call it a hammer and it's $17.

LOL. How about 'kush multi directional variable impact device'.

 

[PharmaCan]

So, uh, how do these guys get away with growing mj in the United States? I don't care if they're growing it for Health Canada or god almighty, wtf makes them so special that they can harvest a Schedule 1 substance and sell it for a profit? How is this any different from what we are doing in California? Why isn't the DEA storming PPS's production facility?

PC

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

Why isn't the DEA storming PPS's production facility?

can you say: BRIBE

?

Peace

 

[Sam the Caveman]

Seriously, how do they get away with this in the US?

Michigan law says only 5 patients per caregiver and 12 plants per patient, so 60 plants max per caregiver and 2.5 ounces per patient or 12.5 ounces max.

This is bullshit, caregivers all over michigan need to get together and form some sort of "caregiver association" to call these people out. Mass production will de-moralize the industry, this needs to be stopped dead in its tracks.

 

[chef]

hide it underground in an abandoned mine is how lol

 

[bigbag]

Brent Zetle owner of PPS has moved his labs from the mine in Flin-Flon,2 an undisclosed location.this is regulated cannabis that tops out @ 9%THC,yum

 

[freeride high]

only 8% thc in there sample?
isnt that generally weak?

 

[Sam the Caveman]

What?? 8% THC, Thats not medical grade cannabis

 

[DKBuddy]

its not easy to see and i have no tools right now to zoom in but - 8% cbd ? is that really written on the package? thats sick?! and not true?

ps: oo it is french and not english the picture quality is just fine LOL

 

[dorkvan420]

Wonder how long this place will last, will probably need to find multiple locations until it is regulated properly!!
You'd think with all that is out there for the masses that these operations would be cultivating top starins more usefull for patients, only 8%...thats as low as my poorly grown outdoor this year....yes I screwed myself all up this year, but hey I'm new to cultivating to the end(a full grow till harvested, my 1st harvest ever was this year)!!
We should open up a few hundred of these op's here in Cali!!!

 

[fatigues]

A few corrections...

"Big Agribusiness" is a function of fact, not a function of marketing and internet imagery.

Prairie Plant Systems ("PPS") has a multi-year, multimillion dollar contract with Health Canada. But don't get so hasty there. When the annual sales figures are broken down, the annual sales revenue with Health Canda is only at a maximum $2,000,000.00 annually - and it is probably only half that number, annually.

I have seen reports of the overall contract price, and the per oz price, but not the length of the contract itself. It's at least five years, but it may well be longer than that and be a ten year contract. If it is a ten year contract, then the sales figures are only $1,000,000.00 annually. This is a more reasonable figure, because the number of people actually buying from Health Canada is pretty small - about 800 or so, monthly. If they each bought 2 ounces per month, that's 1,200 lbs a year that Health Canada sells. PPS only receives $288,000.00 for that weed at $15 per oz. Where's the other $712,000.00 worth of weed go that they would have to supply at 1 million a year? I don't see where that weed goes, given Health Canada's published numbers. So either the annual sales volumes are much higher (possible, but doubtful) - or Health Canada destroys and/or uses the vast majority of that weed for research purposes -- as high as 75%+ of the weed it buys from PPS, annually, would not actually be sold to patients. It's used for research or - more likely - just destroyed.

PPS' sale price is premised upon a slightly less than $15 per ounce sale price to Health Canada. (Health Canada marks it up 1500% when they sell to patients.) There is a high degree of confidence in that number - it's been the subject of Access to Information Act requests by the media. If you take into account that there is a large amount of weed being destroyed under the contract, maybe the cost to Health Canada is a net price per ounce is $60 or even $120 per ounce. They sell it for $150.

In terms or revenue, a grower making $4,000 USD per pound, after converting for exchange rate, is providing a supply of 450 lbs a year to get to $2,000,000.00 CDN annually. Significant volume to be sure, but not exactly Cartel numbers, is it?

While $2,000,000.00 in sales is nice, there are a lot of restaurants and bars and individual McDonald's franchises with sales figures like that. That's a pretty damn far cry from "Big Business". My guess is that there are also more than a few commercial growers on ICMag who meet or exceed that number in terms of their own sales. So slow down on the "big business" label please. PPS is not exactly Phillip Morris or the Archer Daniels Midland Group. It's a privately owned company that got a grow contract for MMJ. That's pretty much it. The rest is just pretensions.

Secondly, the MJ sold by PPS has a THC level of 12.5% +/- 2% THC. PPS says that their real THC number is between 13-and 14%, not 8%. We don't have to guess about this. The QA chromotography reports of various random samples of PPS weed are online for viewing here. I don't know where you got that 8% number, but it's wrong. Health Canada pot is average to almost good pot by design. For political reasons, they don't want to be growing stronger pot. But it is not schwag, no matter how much people may prefer to attack it and characterize as such online. Those claims of poor quality are geatly exaggerated.

It's also pretty cheap at just $150 an ounce (compared to Cdn black market prices of $200 to $425 per ounce). Compared to the cost per ounce to the gov't of only $15, it's frikkin HIGHWAY ROBBERY). Until the end of this month, Health Canada will even courier you the weed - and just bill you for it. You get your weed before you even have to pay for it. When's the last time your dealer or dispensary did that for you? Evidently there are some patients who caannot pay those accounts and their accounts have been sent to collections. Health Canada is now changing their policy on "billing" their patients after delivering them the goods at the end of this month, November 2009.

Thirdly, Just because PPS has a "facility" in Michigan, that is a far cry from saying that they are growing MJ at that facility. It is quite clear that they are not - but are putting themselves in the position where they might do so in the future, should a government contract or other arguably legal mj supply contract come along. Given that they have a proven track record for growing and supplying weed on a consistent basis over a course of years -- and delivering it in large volumes, reliably, at an extremely low price, no doubt they want to position themselves as a legitimate legal grower of commercial MMJ without ties to organized crime. That would certainly be my pitch if I was marketing for PPS (and to be clear, I'm not).

For all that, I would draw to your attention once more that the real cost of legal weed is $15 an ounce. And PPS is making money at that cost. Which goes to show you how vastly overpriced marijuana is on the black market, and how vastly inflated are the claims over all this tax revenue that will supposedly be generated in the future for the sale of legalized pot.

Legal pot is not going to be sold at any price near what people here are expecting. Not even close. It will sell for about 1/15th to 1/20th that price after the free market gets its hands on it. What does that mean to you? It means that if you think you'll be making money in the legal marijuana business doing more or less what you do now - the chances of that are remote, at best.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

very informative fatigues, thank you.

15 USD per OZ running a much more high-tech indoor than most dispensaries in the U.S, go figure...

peace.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Why isn't the DEA storming PPS's production facility?

PC

Because PPS keeps their money in the bank. Why would the dea raid a place they cant rob?

 

[noone88]

Anyone want to take a guess on how they set up their grow rooms?

Drip feed system? Mixed spectrum (HPS/MH) lighting?

 

[fatigues]

Anyone want to take a guess on how they set up their grow rooms?

Drip feed system? Mixed spectrum (HPS/MH) lighting?

My guess is ebb and flow. It's the lowest maintenance mass production system there is when grown indoors.

Some of the pictures used seem to suggest a top drip system though.

I expect the cheapness of it all is best explained by their ventilation system and lack of scrubbing. It's amazing what you can do when you don't care about smell, are prepared to pay the electric bill monthly, and your heat signature is utterly irrelevant. Throw in access to a commercial greenhouse, CO2 and costs can be managed far more effectively.

As cheap as $15 an oz is -- I expect it's vastly overpriced compared to what a modern farmer with 40 acres and a modern planting, irrigation and harvesting system could manage under the big HPS in the sky.

I'd like to talk and review the records of a hemp farmer and get a sense of his costs and production output. Not the same crop, exactly, and harvested in a very different manner to be sure; still, it would be a very informative discussion.

Real modern farming of marijuana has yet to ever be attempted. We really don't know that much about it.