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Washington sniper executed at 9:11

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JimBeamKush

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Yea well I agree with him being put to death, I also think it should have been slightly more painful.

I for one was fucked by our "system". I can tell you one thing when you are in the crosshair of a crazy DA, it is not fun.

When you are charged with a crime , there is no side to your story, no one cares what you did. I will tell you in my case, the only thing they cared about was the "victims".

By the way the "victims" were 5. 25 ish year old guys. That I "attacked" for no reason?

I can tell you one thing, our system is far from perfect.
 

SoloGro57

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Actually more money is spent defending and appealing death penalty cases than would be spent imprisoning the person for life. And that's appropriate since the most precious principle of American justice is that it is better for 10 guilty men go free than 1 man be punished unjustly.

The death penalty serves two purposes, neither of which has anything to do with deterring crime.

1) It satisfies the general citizenry's bloodlust. Which should never be underestimated.
2) It's used by politicians to appear tough on crime.

I read an in-depth article regarding the death penalty some time ago, and according to the writer, the cost analysis showed that the life in prison is much less expensive for the state than putting the same inmate to death.

It's amazing how many people believe it's cheaper to kill an inmate.
 

trouble

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What if he was just mentally disturbed, would you say the same thing..

It's obvious he was mentally disturbed. The guy hid in bushes, shot & killed innocent men, women, and children for fun. And then showed no remorse.

And yes, I still say let the sharks sort him out. The sharks are thick down my way. I'll even furnish the shark-chum, boat, & fuel to take him off-shore, and personally throw him over-board. I would run a nice long chum slick, and then toss his ass right-in-middle of it!



:joint:
 

9Lives

three for playing, three for straying, and three f
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Actually more money is spent defending and appealing death penalty cases than would be spent imprisoning the person for life. And that's appropriate since the most precious principle of American justice is that it is better for 10 guilty men go free than 1 man be punished unjustly.

The death penalty serves two purposes, neither of which has anything to do with deterring crime.

1) It satisfies the general citizenry's bloodlust. Which should never be underestimated.
2) It's used by politicians to appear tough on crime.

Then the legal system is flawed..

It should be cheaper to kill a guy than to feed and guard him for the rest of his life..If it's not something needs to be changed...
 

fatigues

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I don't believe in capital punishment. Too many innocent people are executed mistakenly because of it. I would agree that this guy wasn't one of the innocent mistakes, mind you. Problem is, where do you draw the line?

I don't know that answer. The real problem is that I don't think it's possible to reliably draw it. There you have it.

Whatever the case, it's difficult to feel sorry for this man. The only reason he was caught was becuase he bragged to the police. Had he kept his mouth shut, they might not have have caught him for a looong time. Dozens more might have easily been killed.

It's hard to cast your mind back to that time, but this one guy and his youthful accomplice (for whom I do have some sympathy) did more to sow real terror throughout the DC and Baltimore area than the 9/11 terrorists did. All of that with a .223, a box of ammo, a scope and a beat-up car.

One wonders why America's enemies have not sought to re-visit those methods. They appear to work very, very well.

Foor for thought.
 

Yummybud

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The death penalty really has no point imo. Killing this guy what does that solve. The death penalty does not work as deterrence. A mass murderer or serial killer doesn't think, oh I shouldn't kill all these people because I may get the death penalty.

I think actually the death penalty may be better than life in prison. prison is not a fun place to be for the rest of your life in a tiny cell

also whats the point of inflicting pain on the guy will that teach him some kind of lesson by killing him?

I just think a modern democratic society should not have the death penalty. Europe does not use the death penalty neither does Canada. the U.S also uses the death penalty most often and executes more people than China.
 
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Marywanna

Posts for the killer,but none for the victims.............we don't even know their names.
 

9Lives

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The only point of the death penalty should be to save money. If that does not happen something is wrong elsewhere.

Why would you keep something that's broke around and costs you money ? You would not..you would throw it out. It really is a simple as that..
 

fatigues

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Then the legal system is flawed..

It should be cheaper to kill a guy than to feed and guard him for the rest of his life..If it's not something needs to be changed...

Slow and deliberative justice is not a flaw.

All industrial democracies have a measure of systemic delay in their justice systems. Every one of them. Mind you - America is the only one that still executes people among the industrialized nations. As a deterrent, it works about as well as making pot illegal works, too. Which is to say, hardly at all.

Still, if it's cheap and efficient justice that you want, there is hope for your desires: there is no court backlog in Iran.

You never saw slow and deliberative justice in Nazi Germany, Stalinst USSR, Iran (before or after the fall of the Shah) or North Korea. Under Saddam Hussein? Iraq's courts were the very model of efficiency.

I'll leave you to connect those dots, reflect and perhaps rethink your views on the relative costs and virtues of methodical and deliberative justice.
 

cashmunny

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Then the legal system is flawed..

It should be cheaper to kill a guy than to feed and guard him for the rest of his life..If it's not something needs to be changed...

You don't want to make it too cheap for the state to execute someone. In china it takes the cost of a bullet.

Figure it costs about $50,000 a year to imprison someone. Assuming they commit their crime at age 20 and live to age 70, thats 50 years or 2.5 million dollars incarceration costs.

On the other hand, figure a good lawyer costs about $500 an hour. And everyone who touches the case except the police and jury is most likely a lawyer, from the governor, to the prosecuter, to the appeals court, and the supreme court. And the supreme court's and governor's time is worth much more. So 2.5 million dollars is about 5000 lawyer hours. Is that too much? Making it easier to execute someone would increase the liklihood of someone unjustly being executed. And it would increase the number of executions. Is that something we as a society want, more state sponsored executions? It's a serious question and reasonable people can disagree.

Maybe lawyers should just make less money.
 
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