BUSTED!!!!BIG TIME
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If it was truly proved it would not be deleted. But this is not your private board to accuse anybody of anything. This guy didnt have to tell his story and you certainly didnt have to come here accusing him of anything. He told his story on his own accord and to tell you the truth ive heard of plenty of cases thrown out rather then give up the snitches name. Of course ive prolly been watching this crap about 30 years longer then you. You come up with proof positive ill leave your post till then im not allowing slander.
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Bazarocka
44 years and counting, two close calls. But never busted. THE SECRET
I Know Nutting---------------I Hear Nutting-------------I Say Nutting
AND Never Talk of Your Grow----TO ANYONE. I dont like repeating myself, So I'll say again, ANYONE.
Not mama not papa, not your brother nor sister, son or daughter, not your friend and ESPECIALLY not your lover.
I also believe that Johnny Law is too dumb to CATCH US, (if you've taken the necessary precautions). Thats why they have their paid C.I. doing their job.
Anyhow best of luck.
I think the sentiment was more like "Since when do the Feds give a shit about what they can or can't prove? Or when a snitch says the wrong thing to the wrong person?" The case would never go to trial anyway. The Feds routinely railroad people into taking pleas on crap evidence and some wonder why hydrochris was suddenly able to break that cycle. Either he really is the legal "lotto winner" or there's more to it. That's all.
BUSTEDBIG TIME
BUSTEDBIG TIME
hi everyone, its my 1st time posting here...actually have created this account earlier just to view pictures posted by my colleague. after a while, seeing all the photos being posted up on this site by forumers here makes me more interested in taking good pictures/photography. anyway just to say hi to everyone here and will keep posting.
BUSTEDBIG TIME
hi everyone, its my 1st time posting here...actually have created this account earlier just to view pictures posted by my colleague. after a while, seeing all the photos being posted up on this site by forumers here makes me more interested in taking good pictures/photography. anyway just to say hi to everyone here and will keep posting.
indicameds
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Cough....Cough..bullshit...Cough..cough...
Been there done that went throught the same shit. They dont give two shits about the informant once the bust has been done. They then have the evidence and have already invested to much time, effort and money to just drop all charges. There case was a slam dunk on you and no fed is gonna throw that away.
And no its not slander... Ive spent years in prison and thousands of dollars fighting cases. In the USA it is just not gonna happen like that, sorry to say.. Now im not calling you a snitch, i mean hell for all we know it could of just been a story that popped into your head and you wanted to get it out. And decided to come on here and tell us. We dont even know what really if anything happened. I just know that your either leaving some things out or that some shady shit went down to make those federal charges go away...
Now if some one wants to tell me im talking out my ass or slandering the guys post, them pm me and ill shoot you my institutional number and you can look up my shit. I fought a federal importation case for two years before getting it thrown out because of illegal search and seizure and I also knew the informants info. Only for the state to pick it up a week later on different charges under state law. And only made parole last year. I spent time with thousands of guys and heard all the stories and seen all the case jacket and discoveries. A federal case just doesnt fade away...
Been there done that went throught the same shit. They dont give two shits about the informant once the bust has been done. They then have the evidence and have already invested to much time, effort and money to just drop all charges. There case was a slam dunk on you and no fed is gonna throw that away.
And no its not slander... Ive spent years in prison and thousands of dollars fighting cases. In the USA it is just not gonna happen like that, sorry to say.. Now im not calling you a snitch, i mean hell for all we know it could of just been a story that popped into your head and you wanted to get it out. And decided to come on here and tell us. We dont even know what really if anything happened. I just know that your either leaving some things out or that some shady shit went down to make those federal charges go away...
Now if some one wants to tell me im talking out my ass or slandering the guys post, them pm me and ill shoot you my institutional number and you can look up my shit. I fought a federal importation case for two years before getting it thrown out because of illegal search and seizure and I also knew the informants info. Only for the state to pick it up a week later on different charges under state law. And only made parole last year. I spent time with thousands of guys and heard all the stories and seen all the case jacket and discoveries. A federal case just doesnt fade away...
I have asked a few of my friends who are federal LEO about this one in the FBI, one in the Marshals, They both said that if a member of their office gave away some info and the CI got hurt because of it they would be up shits creek that just turned into a raging river. Both told me they would make sure no charges were ever filed and that the state didn't pursue it either. But thats just what two individuals said so. But then again maybe he just had a friend in a high place who just bought a brand new boat... 
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redbull834
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just like steve mcqueen in the great escape ? i dont think so go to china more people to hind with.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x148ao_great-escape-steve-mcqueen_music
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x148ao_great-escape-steve-mcqueen_music
indicameds
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Wrong. By leaving you on the street is putting the informant in harms way. He has already ratted you out, already cost you money, time and risk of loosing your house and embarassed you to the whole town and everyone you know. The damage was done when he snitched. Dropping all charges just gives you the upper hand to get revenge. You logic is all wrong and believing feds (friends or not) is plain bad judgement. Any one who has ever dealt with LEO wether it be feds or police knows they will say anything to make it out like they are the good guys. When in all actuality they ask the confidential informants to put there life on the line when they first turned them. And in the USA you have the right to face your accuser. Even if he hadnt found out who ratted him out. He could of filled for a motion of discovery and by US laws they would of had to disclose the info to him once they felt the informant was safe.
Dude I don't know where your hostility is coming from but you need to chill. I was just passing on what I was told by an fbi agent and a us marshal. I don't know the op, don't know anything about his situation other than the fact that a federal agent outed the informant to him. There are a million reasons why they could have dropped pursuing him, none of them having to do with the informant or him ratting on someone.
sow da seeds
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What I don't understand is how throwing out the case going to put the CI in any less danger; I mean I know you wouldn't be charged, but a CI deserves what they get whether someone is charged or not. Or if the CI suddenly goes missing does the case get reopened? lol
Anyways congrats.
Anyways congrats.
dude, what hostility? and why are you buddy buddy talking to US marshals and Feds?
Family is family man, the other one is a high school friend.Not all leo are bad people.
indicameds
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Hey check it out. Ima drop you some good rep to knock the chip off your shoulder. But I wasnt ever once hostile. I was just being realistic about it. It is a matter i take seriously having done my own bid and knowing the ropes personaly. Granted everyones case is different and shit happens. But im still calling bullshit out of expirence. Plain and simple LEO isnt goin to drop charges to save a informant. They put there life at risk by asking for there help in investigations in the first place. They know the risk they put them in from the start.
And about you contacts with feds and marshalls. Its all cool man, I understand. With as many pigs that out there, were all bound to know one at some time or another. And your right there not all bad. But look at it this way. Do you go around telling you buddies and family you grow pot? (if so then your stupid) but im geussing your a smart guy and you dont speak of it. The same goes with your buddies. They may work by the book, but if they do some dirt on the side and put informants lifes at risk. There sure as hell not gonna risk there jobs by telling you.
I didnt mean to start and argument, a debate maybe. But that is not even needed. Ill leave it alone. Im a pot smoker, im mellow and laid back. Gettin into bickering (espacially on the net) is not for me. So take care man and stay high and safe..
And JJS, its cool man, im done sorry for the bickering. It wont happen again, i didnt mean to get something started.. My appologies everyone...stay safe and stay high guys...
indicameds
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"You have given out too much rep in the last 24 hours, please try again later."
Sorry zenoonez Ill get that rep to you in the morning to show no hard feelings..
Sorry zenoonez Ill get that rep to you in the morning to show no hard feelings..
Perhaps I read more into the way you were saying things then you meant. What I am saying is not that they dropped the charges to save the informant. Quite the opposite in fact, I think they dropped them to save their own asses. What I am saying is that the fact that one of their agents outed a CI is a big no no and is potentially problematic not only for the case but for the agent's career and I have seen pigs do some shitty things for their career and cutting some small fish loose on charges like that is not a big deal when its one of their own. You are absolutely right about the cops, I don't talk about my growing with them but I do ask them how they catch people, what they think about legalization you know, all the soft questions. Props for the well wishes and words of advice. I don't think either of them would bust me but I don't give them that chance either. Same vibes back man, keep it quiet and smelling like roses and stay out of those cages. Peace.
Edit: im don't worry about it man, its no biggie, I don't think I said anything worthy of rep in the first place
hydrochris
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WOW!! so much hate on here. The CI has not been seen by me or by anyone they used to associate with since 7 days before my bust. Luckily I had a AUSA that has a preferrence on the cases she wants to pursue based on circumstances that occur during the case building process. Somebody fucked up along the way that got me cleared, there is no way I or my lawyer could have made this happen. You cant just snitch on somebody and get a case like mine dropped, even if I had information on an unsolved murder, that would have gotten me verry little reduction in sentence or charges. indicameds, im sorry if you weren't as fortunate and had to spend time in prison, I too could post my legal papers on here to show that everything I said was 100% spot on, but I will not reveal my identity because I can still be charged by the state. I will remain anonymous, out of sight, and out of mind. There are court docs concerning my assett forfeiture and the money being turned over to the feds.
0911-CV0479***4 - STATE OF MISSOURI V CHRISTOPHER R********N ET AL
05/18/2009 Docket Entry: Petition Filed - No Fees
Text: APPLICATION TO TRANSFER SEIZED PROPERTY FROM THE CUSTODY OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO THE CUSTODY OF A FEDERAL AGENCY, FILED. CLM
Docket Entry: Certificate of Mailing
Text: JUDGE'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING AS PER MEMORANDUM, FILED. LDR BY CLM
Docket Entry: Certificate of Mailing
Text: CLERKS'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING, APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER, NOTICE OF TRANSFER, STATEMENT OF FACTS AND JUDGE'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING SENT CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED TO DEFENDANT AT ADDRESS PROVIDED BY ATTORNEY. CLM DUE TO MAIL BEING PICKED UP FOR THE DAY, THIS WILL BE SENT OUT ON 05-19-09 AT THE 9 AM MAIL RUN. CLM
Docket Entry: Filing:
Text: STATEMENT OF FACTS, FILED. CLM
Docket Entry: Notice
Text: NOTICE OF TRANSFER OF SEIZED PROPERTY BY THE STATE TO FEDERAL AGENCY, AS PER MEMORANDUM, FILED. LDR BY CLM
Docket Entry: Judge Assigned
05/22/2009 Docket Entry: Retn Serv-Reg/Cert Mail Succs
Text: CERTIFIED MAIL GREEN CARD RETURNED SIGNED, FILED. CT
06/01/2009 Docket Entry: Other Final Disposition
Docket Entry: Judgment Entered
Text: IT IS HEREBY, ORDERED ADJUDGED AND DECREED, THAT THE REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF SEIZED PROPERTY FROM THE CUSTODY OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO A FEDERAL AGENCY FILED BY THE STATE OF MO, IS HEREBY APPROVED AND THE $7,680.00 IN U.S. CURRENCY SEIZED FROM CHRISTOPHER R********N ON 05-13-09 IS HEREBY TRANSFERRED TO THE CUSTODY OF THE DEA, SPECIAL AGENT JOSEPH CRONIN FOR TRANSFER TO THE U.S. MARSHALL SERVICE,NLS
0911-CV0479***4 - STATE OF MISSOURI V CHRISTOPHER R********N ET AL
05/18/2009 Docket Entry: Petition Filed - No Fees
Text: APPLICATION TO TRANSFER SEIZED PROPERTY FROM THE CUSTODY OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO THE CUSTODY OF A FEDERAL AGENCY, FILED. CLM
Docket Entry: Certificate of Mailing
Text: JUDGE'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING AS PER MEMORANDUM, FILED. LDR BY CLM
Docket Entry: Certificate of Mailing
Text: CLERKS'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING, APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER, NOTICE OF TRANSFER, STATEMENT OF FACTS AND JUDGE'S CERTIFICATE OF MAILING SENT CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED TO DEFENDANT AT ADDRESS PROVIDED BY ATTORNEY. CLM DUE TO MAIL BEING PICKED UP FOR THE DAY, THIS WILL BE SENT OUT ON 05-19-09 AT THE 9 AM MAIL RUN. CLM
Docket Entry: Filing:
Text: STATEMENT OF FACTS, FILED. CLM
Docket Entry: Notice
Text: NOTICE OF TRANSFER OF SEIZED PROPERTY BY THE STATE TO FEDERAL AGENCY, AS PER MEMORANDUM, FILED. LDR BY CLM
Docket Entry: Judge Assigned
05/22/2009 Docket Entry: Retn Serv-Reg/Cert Mail Succs
Text: CERTIFIED MAIL GREEN CARD RETURNED SIGNED, FILED. CT
06/01/2009 Docket Entry: Other Final Disposition
Docket Entry: Judgment Entered
Text: IT IS HEREBY, ORDERED ADJUDGED AND DECREED, THAT THE REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF SEIZED PROPERTY FROM THE CUSTODY OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO A FEDERAL AGENCY FILED BY THE STATE OF MO, IS HEREBY APPROVED AND THE $7,680.00 IN U.S. CURRENCY SEIZED FROM CHRISTOPHER R********N ON 05-13-09 IS HEREBY TRANSFERRED TO THE CUSTODY OF THE DEA, SPECIAL AGENT JOSEPH CRONIN FOR TRANSFER TO THE U.S. MARSHALL SERVICE,NLS
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