Are soil inoculants bennificial if you're already using castings?
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CT Guy
You'll have to be more specific. Depends on your soil mix as well. When you say EWC tea, how are you making it? EWC tea should add microbes, which will increase your nutrient cycling, but it's not the same as adding an organic fertilizer.
Jaykush-That's a good question, I don't really know. In the past I puchased an inoculate made by Age Old Organics. I really don't know what was in it. I do like to add 10-20% castings to my mix with bone, blood and lime. I feed with Age Old Organics grow and bloom added to my EWC tea/mollases.
The next time I make up a batch of soil, I'm going to add ~20% coir and maybe start playing around with guanos, but I'm wondering if there'd be any bennifit to adding an inoculate since I'm using castings and tea?
My goal is obtaining the ultimate in quality. I'm looking for a soil mix and feeding formula that will produce the most fragrant flowers. Maybe the qeust for fragrance should be another topic. I didn't see one while scanning through the organics forum. I do think organics + CMH + strain selection is the best combination for some funk.
FYI- there are some nice smelling flowers to be found in lifesaver and bogglegum
The next time I make up a batch of soil, I'm going to add ~20% coir and maybe start playing around with guanos, but I'm wondering if there'd be any bennifit to adding an inoculate since I'm using castings and tea?
My goal is obtaining the ultimate in quality. I'm looking for a soil mix and feeding formula that will produce the most fragrant flowers. Maybe the qeust for fragrance should be another topic. I didn't see one while scanning through the organics forum. I do think organics + CMH + strain selection is the best combination for some funk.
FYI- there are some nice smelling flowers to be found in lifesaver and bogglegum
CT guy- When I make my tea: I bubble tap water for 24 hours. Then I add mollases and earth worm castings. Sometimes I'll add age old grow or bloom. I like to bubble this mix for ~24 hrs before use. I'm thinking my tea should be loaded with microrgnaisms, but do I have a broad enough spectrum of organisms?
BTW- my soil has a very rich earthy smell. To me it smells perfect, but I'm always looking for improvements.
BTW- my soil has a very rich earthy smell. To me it smells perfect, but I'm always looking for improvements.
if you are adding good amounts of EWC to your soil and using compost teas, i doubt you need an inoculate. the only one that helps and i guess considered an inoculate would be a mycorrhizae fungi. of course they are not needed for a successful grow, they just help.
if you want ultimate quality in your cannabis you need a quality soil. soil mixes only get you so far, you still need to build a soils health and fertility over time to achieve results above and beyond. your soil should be your top priority other than strain selection. nature does the rest, trust me. fragrance, yiled, potency, all fall into place with a quality soil.
smellychronic
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I add earth juice molasses and Sub-culture B for a nice ph'd tea
I don't understand the purpose of adding fertilizer to tea before aerating. I can't say why, but intuition tells me you should make your aerated tea all by itself. Bottled nutes and guanos can be added at any time, so why potentially fuck with your soil microorganisms with a concentration of nutrients they could never experience in your soil?
And if you are already amending, are the nutes necessary? Keep in mind that mutes are merely a limiting factor. More nutes than the plant needs will not give you more buds than the plant wants to make.
Jay - I have to disagree about strains and flavor/aroma notes or potency. Soil can unlock potential, but it can't get blood from stones or make beefsteaks into heirlooms. Of course, your wonderful advice is still correct so maybe I am quibbling.
And if you are already amending, are the nutes necessary? Keep in mind that mutes are merely a limiting factor. More nutes than the plant needs will not give you more buds than the plant wants to make.
Jay - I have to disagree about strains and flavor/aroma notes or potency. Soil can unlock potential, but it can't get blood from stones or make beefsteaks into heirlooms. Of course, your wonderful advice is still correct so maybe I am quibbling.
im going to quote myself this time lol.
i agree your soil can only make so much what the plant is capable of, that's why i said strain selection should also be a top priority. quality genetics + quality soil = high quality pot...at least as far as i am concerned
i agree your soil can only make so much what the plant is capable of, that's why i said strain selection should also be a top priority. quality genetics + quality soil = high quality pot...at least as far as i am concerned
Jay it's almost like I misread "rather" where you wrote "other".
Doh!
Can you forgive me? Thank god I did not make an ass of myself even more by saying your advice was bad. I would edit and erase, but this can be a lesson to you all. Don't be an idiot. Read carefully.
Doh!
Can you forgive me? Thank god I did not make an ass of myself even more by saying your advice was bad. I would edit and erase, but this can be a lesson to you all. Don't be an idiot. Read carefully.
I know that in my grow, Bio-Tone StarterPlus did more good than worm castings alone did.
DankByNature
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Yeah, I would add another innoculant like subculture or Bio-tone this will add a variety of beneficials, that potentially may not be in wormcastings alone.
C
CT Guy
Do you have chlorine in your water? If so, you probably only need to bubble it for an hour or so before making your tea. How much molasses and castings are you using? How much aeration are you getting in your brewer?
I'd concur that you probably wouldn't want to add the grow and bloom (though I don't know the ingredients). You could probably add them after the tea is finished, immediately before application.
Chief Rbud
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yes! if using it to innoculate new soil mix just make sure the soil sits for at least 2 weeks before using it, dont let it dry out, and turn it over a couple of times before use. this allows the bone meal, blood meal and dolomite lime to start breaking down and the microherd to get good and established.
