Police Officer's

[AntelopeDope]

Most cops are brainwashed, and are ignorant to the fact that they are brainwashed. It's a great reality to create for such an occupation...

We need civil protection, but police academy has become just another institution that hands out a meal ticket. Cops are trained to "bend" the law, and morality has been totally removed from the position of a police officer. They effectively are becoming revenue contact points for the state, while also functioning as a brainwashed minion. We pay their pensions, salaries, cushy government benefits, and they in turn are far more detrimental to us than they are good. The list goes on, and on...

As a nation, we are far over policed.

And shame on the trolls hating for religion or other opinions.

 

[kmk420kali]

Did you miss the abortion thread? Oil and water indeed.

Ha ha!! I am a freaking Stoner!! Yeah...water...not Vinegar--

 

[619Sativa]

It doesn't seem that all you who claim to be open minded and tolerant are even close. I have opinions, and you have your's. It seems you guys are so quick to jump the gun, and think because I believe in god, I am somehow ignorant and shouldn't be taken seriously. You should probably think about what you say and stop trying to be so quick to judge.
I would agree that some laws are bogus, but why put that on the people who enforce them. Has nobody had a job with rules and regulations that they didn't agree with, but had to do? And to compare cops to the nazis is beyond me.

 

[zenoonez]

I am very tolerant. I simply don't see the point in two people who are diametrically opposed on issues coming together to discuss issues. If there is no common ground between the two people as far as philosophy or ethical/moral beliefs then it just seems pointless. Its like asking people who are fundamentally against the idea of a public health care plan to come and discuss what that health care plan should encompass.

Edit: To address some of your other points. Police are not all nice and sweet like you may be used to. In my area of the country cops are hardcore. There is video of staties in a county nearby to mine running out and kicking a suspect square in the head as he laid on the ground. Next point, those nazis were just doing their jobs just like cops are. There are seldom times when I actually agree with someone comparing someone else to a nazi, this is one of those times when it is not a logical fallacy.

 

[619Sativa]

How can you label a whole group of people as being brainwashed? Are you seriously saying that cops are trained to attack innocent people? That seems a little ludicrous, don't you think?

 

[kmk420kali]

It doesn't seem that all you who claim to be open minded and tolerant are even close. I have opinions, and you have your's. It seems you guys are so quick to jump the gun, and think because I believe in god, I am somehow ignorant and shouldn't be taken seriously. You should probably think about what you say and stop trying to be so quick to judge.
I would agree that some laws are bogus, but why put that on the people who enforce them. Has nobody had a job with rules and regulations that they didn't agree with, but had to do? And to compare cops to the nazis is beyond me.

Dude...I have seen first hand how the cops roll on Cannabis users!! They show up with a battering ram, and knock your door in!!
Yeah...this is in a legal State!!
Then they find out it is a legal grow...and after they pull your plants...they stand around and tell you "Comforting" things...like, "We are only doing our jobs."
Well...how about the fact that it is fucking legal!! And that they are ignoring State Law!!
Sorry bud...I have an opinion too....Fuck Cops!!
BTW...I will take care of myself in a pinch--

 

[KMK0420]

You all can have an opinion on whether cops/police are useful, efficient, necessary, etc. But there is a difference between your opinion, and reality.

First let me say..

Without order, there is chaos. I am PRO or FOR certain levels of control, but to an extent. I think the laws go way too far and have for decades, and the entire justice system needs revamped. This retarded, backwards upfucked system puts so many people in prison for absolutely dumb reasons, specifically cannabis.

I think that there are certain FACTS about cops/law that make the average person dislike the police. Ignorant and hateful laws are created and run by greedy, evil politicians who rake in the cash while the little man gets fucked by the system (cops, courts, jails, etc)

Now...how do i perceive police? I look at it two ways:

- they're just doing their job, don't hate them, hate the law

- they chose the job knowing full well they will be putting people in prison possibly costing them their freedom (an essential part of LIFE)

unfortunately, these people again knowingly join the police in fighting pointless wars on humanity itself. now let me address those who are thinking "hey asshole, they save your ass when youre in trouble!! they catch murderers!!" wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere in the fuck do you live where this happens? look up the murder rate / homicides in pittsburgh, pa. look at how many of those are solved vs unsolved (if you can find the info). it's so horrible that i don't even need to post the statistics. lets just say a lot of people are "walking free".

in the current system police are necessary for their system...thats it. change the system, in turn domino effect causing the police/police procedures to change also. this is the fundamental change that is necessary, protesting police and police brutality will only get that person fired....thats it...no change...


there's so much stereotyping done with police under the guise of safety it's hideous. profiling black people, profiling certain types of cars (rich, imports, tinted/rimmed vehicles, etc.) oh yeah, to the person who said they catch murderers and whatnot...um, don't the police always arrive AFTER shit has happened? they cant fuckin teleport, so most of the time they'll arrive after your face has been blown the fuck off from a 12 gauge carried by a thief...fuck that...take your life into your own hands, protect yourself first then call the police - which i view more as a measure to protect MYSELF from going to prison for not reporting the crime.


/endrant before i keep going, way too high

 

[619Sativa]

I am very tolerant. I simply don't see the point in two people who are diametrically opposed on issues coming together to discuss issues. If there is no common ground between the two people as far as philosophy or ethical/moral beliefs then it just seems pointless. Its like asking people who are fundamentally against the idea of a public health care plan to come and discuss what that health care plan should encompass.

How do you think our country was founded? Our founding father's had opposing views, yet somehow they were able to create the greatest nation on earth. Nothing would ever get done, or improved if you didn't have all sides of the circle coming together. That is a very scary train of thought. I guess we should give whoever is in power all of the power, I mean, the other side will never agree, so let's throw them under the bus and do whatever we feel is right.

 

[gogoplata420]

It doesn't seem that all you who claim to be open minded and tolerant are even close. I have opinions, and you have your's. It seems you guys are so quick to jump the gun, and think because I believe in god, I am somehow ignorant and shouldn't be taken seriously. You should probably think about what you say and stop trying to be so quick to judge.
I would agree that some laws are bogus, but why put that on the people who enforce them. Has nobody had a job with rules and regulations that they didn't agree with, but had to do? And to compare cops to the nazis is beyond me.

obviously you havent dealt with a cop who doesnt act professional. alot of cops forget that they have to conduct themselves in a certain way... have you ever had a cop say, "you think your fucking tough kid" and step to you? i have and i almost busted in tears because i knew i couldnt do anything, i just had to take his shit... i was 17 years old at the time.

 

[Strainhunter]

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619Sativa you must be living a very sheltered life and are naive to a degree...

 

[Stoner4Life]

I can see this going ICMag ugly for obvious reasons,
619Sativa I say you're in here stirring the pot while
on some sort of agenda.......

 

[kmk420kali]

How do you think our country was founded? Our founding father's had opposing views, yet somehow they were able to create the greatest nation on earth. Nothing would ever get done, or improved if you didn't have all sides of the circle coming together. That is a very scary train of thought. I guess we should give whoever is in power all of the power, I mean, the other side will never agree, so let's throw them under the bus and do whatever we feel is right.

You just proved a point against your opinion--
Our Founding Fathers fought and overthrew the opposition...that, at the time.,...had all the "Authority" on their side--
NEXT!!

 

[619Sativa]

Do you really think somebody joins law enforcement on the sole purpose of busting potheads? My grandfather was a police officer, and was murdered, and that is why most of my family became police officers. Just because you smoke weed, and are always paranoid about getting busted, doesn't mean that is what the cops are after. We all love mota, and all want to be safe and free, and that is probably why most of you hold such a grudge. But don't you think cops are more worried about murderer's, rapist's, pedophile's, etc., over a stoner. Not saying that we don't get busted, but we are probably on the bottom of the list of people they are going after.

 

[Joe Hawkins]

How can you label a whole group of people as being brainwashed? Are you seriously saying that cops are trained to attack innocent people? That seems a little ludicrous, don't you think?

You've never seen police bust up a peaceful protest?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etv8YEqaWgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6Lf4ajrfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWjSOVDyUJ4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSwITK4jjQ

 

[zenoonez]

How do you think our country was founded? Our founding father's had opposing views, yet somehow they were able to create the greatest nation on earth. Nothing would ever get done, or improved if you didn't have all sides of the circle coming together. That is a very scary train of thought. I guess we should give whoever is in power all of the power, I mean, the other side will never agree, so let's throw them under the bus and do whatever we feel is right.

You are right they had opposing view thats why the federalists and antifederalists duked it out for the public's backing and didn't necessarily come together and talk nicely. If you want to believe in a holding hands world than you can, I am not going to stop you. What I will say is that me trying to make you believe that abortion is a woman's right is a lost cause because we do not have the common ground to come to an agreement other than to agree to disagree. Does that mean I am against debating it? No, it just means that as far as my goal is to convince you that abortion is a woman's right it is a pointless action. I disagree that we need all sides of the circle should have a voice because to be perfectly honest, if you think that America is a country for only white Christians then I don't think we have anything else to talk about. If you are a racist or a bigot I don't think I respect your views enough to hear you out. I won't argue that you shouldn't be able to speak but there is no way I am going to sit around and listen to you. Extremists on both ends of the spectrum are often parties with whom you cannot form the common ground that makes discussing things with them worthwhile. Oh and your scary train of thought is how American politics has worked for decades.

 

[619Sativa]

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619Sativa you must be living a very sheltered life and are naive to a degree...

I have stated more than once that there are bad cops out there. I just don't believe ALL cops are bad. I follow the law to protect myself from certain situations, if that is what you mean be "sheltered".

 

[AntelopeDope]

How can you label a whole group of people as being brainwashed? Are you seriously saying that cops are trained to attack innocent people? That seems a little ludicrous, don't you think?

They pass through the same government program.

I never said they are trained to "attack innocent people". Your spin is ludicrous

 

[619Sativa]

I can see this going ICMag ugly for obvious reasons,
619Sativa I say you're in here stirring the pot while
on some sort of agenda.......

I created this thread to understand why so many were against police officers. I am not trying to stirr up anything. If you look at the thread, you will see the one's who are blowing this out of proportion. I asked a simple question.

 

[here2learn]

BURN BABYLON This country (usa)was founded on murder rape and destruction of life !! known your history not what has been repeated 2 u!!yes throwing people under the bus indeed!!

How do you think our country was founded? Our founding father's had opposing views, yet somehow they were able to create the greatest nation on earth. Nothing would ever get done, or improved if you didn't have all sides of the circle coming together. That is a very scary train of thought. I guess we should give whoever is in power all of the power, I mean, the other side will never agree, so let's throw them under the bus and do whatever we feel is right.

 

[619Sativa]

You just proved a point against your opinion--
Our Founding Fathers fought and overthrew the opposition...that, at the time.,...had all the "Authority" on their side--
NEXT!!

How? Our founding father's themselves had differing views, yet they came together to distinguish a tyranny. If your talking about marijuana and police officer's, I have already stated that I think there are bogus laws. But I don't jump the gun and think that all cops are out to get us.