humboldtlocals outdoor '09

[Hawaiian Bud]

Aloha HB, I have spent a lot of time in Puna and all over the big I. You are blessed to get to live in such a place. The first time I swam with dolphins was when I was camping on Kehana beach about 14 years ago. An experience I will never forget.
I don't want to go to much into the "setbacks" I experienced because I have a lot to be grateful for and this is still my best year ever. It is easy to get caught in the "well it should of could of been like this" and I don't want to go there. Every year is a learning experience and I am just trying to not repeat the mistakes I have already made.
We definitely deal with mold and powdery mildew here. If you spray a lot you can usually keep the PM at bay. Some strains are more susceptible than others. It seams like a green house with lots of air flow and the correct sativa dominant strains would be the key out there. I have seen lots of good Hawaiian bud over there so I know it is very possible. Those Puna rains are heavy. Wet side for sure. Peace and aloha.

Wow, that's great that you've been here before. Do you still get the time to come to the islands at all?

Okay my brother, as for "powdery mildew", do you use 'seranade' on your ladies? If so, how much and how often?
As for strains & this diease. It really attacked my 'Webs', and crossed Webs with Swazi strains 95% of them. I also tried growing 'Nirvana's' version of "Blackberry". I can honestly say that 100% of that strain was effected by Powdery Mildew. I just threw away roughly about a pound of bud yesterday! What made it extra hard for me to see this diease was my 56 yr. old set of eyes. This was my first season trying to use "Gravity", Bushmaster, & Triple maxx. So when the mildew first appeared, I thought I was looking at a new trichome pattern caused by one of the new products I was trying. So thinking this, I allowed the powdery mildew spores to spread in my entire work area!?!? Any suggestion of how I can rid myself of all these nasty spores hanging around.

Right now I have 'Greenhouses' "Great White Shark", "Cheese", and "White Rhino"(I just love the old school strains like this one). Plus I have three "Hi-jacks",a strain from California. Everything else I have destroyed in the past 48 hours to rid myself of this plant diease & spores. I have destroyed all these "Blackberry" clones, "Blue Mystic"clones that were around and present with the infected plants. It's a nightmare brah! Yet it's something that has to be done! Brah, pests are another that is big here,and with the size medical grow you have. I'd imagine you have had your fair share of them too. I get aphids, Mealy Bugs,(last seasons big problem),scales,two types of catipillars(green ones, & brown ones with horns) ants( i usually no bother them when I see them on my girls. In the soil is another story).
Using Neem oil has not done the trick at all. Perhaps I'm not using enough on my girls? Do you use Neem oil brah? If so how much per plant.Do you soak under side of leaves?

Last Nov., we passed a ballot initiative making cannabis a low priorty crime on this island. If you are 21 yrs. old, and a medical cannabis card holder. You can now have in the privacy of your own home or property 24 plants of any size, and 24 ounces of dried meds. The other islansds are only allowed to have 7 plants, 3 of them adults, and four of them keikis. To me that doesn't work! So anyway, because of this initiative. The cops are going nuts to try bust everybody here. Especially enlight of Eric Holder's announcement last week regarding medical cannabis. Brah, at 56 yrs old, I'm so sick & tired of their flyovers. It makes me a nervous wreck! Sure I'm legal in all. But my property is getting flyovers almost weekly by these pricks! What these flyovers will eventually do is alert the rippers of a possible medical grow! I grow on my property, and it's not fenced in at all.
For security I have an abundace of hungry Pit Bulls who would love to have a mouth full of a ripper's "nutsacks" for a snack. With such a big grow, what do you do for security?

Hopefully I will have rid myself of these spore around my grow area before my new seeds arrive.

a hui hou,

HB

 

[Rainman]

Great grows and plants here! Great job everyone and esp HL.

 

[humboldtlocal]

Wow, that's great that you've been here before. Do you still get the time to come to the islands at all?

Okay my brother, as for "powdery mildew", do you use 'seranade' on your ladies? If so, how much and how often?
As for strains & this diease. It really attacked my 'Webs', and crossed Webs with Swazi strains 95% of them. I also tried growing 'Nirvana's' version of "Blackberry". I can honestly say that 100% of that strain was effected by Powdery Mildew. I just threw away roughly about a pound of bud yesterday! What made it extra hard for me to see this diease was my 56 yr. old set of eyes. This was my first season trying to use "Gravity", Bushmaster, & Triple maxx. So when the mildew first appeared, I thought I was looking at a new trichome pattern caused by one of the new products I was trying. So thinking this, I allowed the powdery mildew spores to spread in my entire work area!?!? Any suggestion of how I can rid myself of all these nasty spores hanging around.

Right now I have 'Greenhouses' "Great White Shark", "Cheese", and "White Rhino"(I just love the old school strains like this one). Plus I have three "Hi-jacks",a strain from California. Everything else I have destroyed in the past 48 hours to rid myself of this plant diease & spores. I have destroyed all these "Blackberry" clones, "Blue Mystic"clones that were around and present with the infected plants. It's a nightmare brah! Yet it's something that has to be done! Brah, pests are another that is big here,and with the size medical grow you have. I'd imagine you have had your fair share of them too. I get aphids, Mealy Bugs,(last seasons big problem),scales,two types of catipillars(green ones, & brown ones with horns) ants( i usually no bother them when I see them on my girls. In the soil is another story).
Using Neem oil has not done the trick at all. Perhaps I'm not using enough on my girls? Do you use Neem oil brah? If so how much per plant.Do you soak under side of leaves?

Last Nov., we passed a ballot initiative making cannabis a low priorty crime on this island. If you are 21 yrs. old, and a medical cannabis card holder. You can now have in the privacy of your own home or property 24 plants of any size, and 24 ounces of dried meds. The other islansds are only allowed to have 7 plants, 3 of them adults, and four of them keikis. To me that doesn't work! So anyway, because of this initiative. The cops are going nuts to try bust everybody here. Especially enlight of Eric Holder's announcement last week regarding medical cannabis. Brah, at 56 yrs old, I'm so sick & tired of their flyovers. It makes me a nervous wreck! Sure I'm legal in all. But my property is getting flyovers almost weekly by these pricks! What these flyovers will eventually do is alert the rippers of a possible medical grow! I grow on my property, and it's not fenced in at all.
For security I have an abundace of hungry Pit Bulls who would love to have a mouth full of a ripper's "nutsacks" for a snack. With such a big grow, what do you do for security?

Hopefully I will have rid myself of these spore around my grow area before my new seeds arrive.

a hui hou,

HB

Aloha Bro, I am hopefully coming to Kauii around Thanksgiving. I have friends on the Big I and the door is always open but probably won't make it this winter. We spray safer sulfur early in the season before the buds start and serenade pretty deep into flower. Another product we used this fall was called EM. I have heard good things about a product called greencure but we can't get it here in Cali. Maybe you can find it out there.
I haven't seen any web strains in about fifteen years. It is awesome you are keeping it alive out there. There was a grower on here from BC growing that Blackberry strain who lost most of it to mold. I think it was Nirvana but I can't remember. I grow a BB clone here and it does okay with the mold for being such a late finisher. It sounds like you are growing some heavy indica strains. I would look for more sativa strains adjusted to tropical climates. The humidity there will always destroy those big thick buds. I think building a greenhouse with really good airflow would help but I don't think you will ever be able to get away from the mold.
Sounds like you have some really gnarly bugs. We mostly battle spider mites, thrips, aphids, and caterpillars. Mostly the mites. We use Neem, Organicide, and Take Down garden spray. The Take down is the only one that is a little harsh. You definitely want to soak the undersides of the leaves as that is where a lot of the bugs live.
As far as rippers, we grow way out in the sticks. You would have to have some big balls to come out this far. You would also be driving by many easier to rip scenes than ours on the way here. It is safety in numbers. Rip-offs do happen but usually it is an inside job. Big loud dogs helps. Other stuff that I won't mention here helps. You would have to be a damn fool to come out here looking for trouble.
What is the state wide amount medical patients are allowed to possess in HI? Our local airports are now saying medical patients can fly to other medical states.
Take care
Aloha

 

[Hawaiian Bud]

Aloha Bro, I am hopefully coming to Kauii around Thanksgiving. I have friends on the Big I and the door is always open but probably won't make it this winter. We spray safer sulfur early in the season before the buds start and serenade pretty deep into flower. Another product we used this fall was called EM. I have heard good things about a product called greencure but we can't get it here in Cali. Maybe you can find it out there.
I haven't seen any web strains in about fifteen years. It is awesome you are keeping it alive out there. There was a grower on here from BC growing that Blackberry strain who lost most of it to mold. I think it was Nirvana but I can't remember. I grow a BB clone here and it does okay with the mold for being such a late finisher. It sounds like you are growing some heavy indica strains. I would look for more sativa strains adjusted to tropical climates. The humidity there will always destroy those big thick buds. I think building a greenhouse with really good airflow would help but I don't think you will ever be able to get away from the mold.
Sounds like you have some really gnarly bugs. We mostly battle spider mites, thrips, aphids, and caterpillars. Mostly the mites. We use Neem, Organicide, and Take Down garden spray. The Take down is the only one that is a little harsh. You definitely want to soak the undersides of the leaves as that is where a lot of the bugs live.
As far as rippers, we grow way out in the sticks. You would have to have some big balls to come out this far. You would also be driving by many easier to rip scenes than ours on the way here. It is safety in numbers. Rip-offs do happen but usually it is an inside job. Big loud dogs helps. Other stuff that I won't mention here helps. You would have to be a damn fool to come out here looking for trouble.
What is the state wide amount medical patients are allowed to possess in HI? Our local airports are now saying medical patients can fly to other medical states.
Take care
Aloha

Hey, thanks for all the product names brah. Hopefully I'll be able to find some of them in Hilo.

That's terrific if you can make it over to Kauai for Thanksgiving. I like it there, but being here on the Big Island is the bomb. Why? It's the last affordable coastline in all of Hawaii. I live in a subdivision in lower Puna, and I'm just four street away from the beach! I moved here from Oahu almost three years ago. I bought a single acre, then built a three bedroom two bath house for the family on that piece of land. Now I got all of this several months before the housing market fiasco kicked in over here. One acre and built my brand new house for less than $280K!!! Guess what? Since the housing market fiasco, property has dropped even more since I bought! 3 acre lots in Fern Acres, or Fern Forrest start at about $30K!
Ag zoned, and perfect for cannabis growing. No cops go there unless called into there. These two subdivisions are perfect for growing, and have a reputation as a place forbidden to go unless you're a grower!

All other islands cannabis card holding patients can only have 7 plants. With only three of that seven can be mature too. Talk about cramping one's style!

This past year I had three different strains of web going. If you end up on the Big Island P.M me. I'd be more than happy to share some of Hawaii's web genetics with you via "beans", if you'd like?

Brah, I'd love to talk story with you one day!?

peace,


HB

 

[predballer]

greets from arcata. nice work, i can tell you have worked hard to get to where you are now. like you said already, it just doesn't happen overnight. ever consider building soil baskets? helps drainage, more good soil for the babies.

ive toyed with the idea of buying or renting some property to start things up, but school is a major time suck right now. ive still 2 years to graduate, however i think next year might pan out to be a good one.

i would love to grow here, its close to home anyway, but i find the climate to be less than ideal. you said PM is an issue for your plants, which i assume is due to the humidity from the coast. theres also those foggy mornings to worry about, though you probably know better than i do about the climate in the sohum area. its only my second year living here. anyway, i've watched my friends grow big things in butte county for a few years. the climate there is very dry and hot, never any PM to speak of and only bud rot in the thickest colas. im weighing the climate against the laid back mmj laws here in the triangle. it is probably going to come down to logistics, e.g. properties and partners.

BTW, good article on the trim machine. ive seen some machines' handy work before, but ive never liked the results. nothing beats good hand-trimmed weed, though i may change my mind when i see the work of the twister.

 

[humboldtlocal]

Hey Predballer, Great pic. I am going to work some smartpots into some of my operation next year. The results I have seen this year are pretty impressive.
I am pretty far inland from the coast. Most of my PM was on clones that came from unreliable sources specifically the Bubba. Butte is an awesome grow area and there are plenty of people killing it there right now. Good luck wherever you decide to start up.
Are you coming to the Humboldt Hemp Fest tomorrow at the Mateel Community center in Redway? Trim Scene Solutions is going to have a booth with the Twister on display. They are premiering their new dvd showing the Twister in action. I gave them a bunch of my video footage and pics to use. I have not seen it yet but I hear it came out pretty good. If you get a chance come on down.

 

[DHF]

Just wanted ta call respect where it`s due ..........I re-registered here to say Hello to a few `old heads I usedta grow krusty buckets with but after the bullshit @ CareBear/Cabana with BlueBerry/Gray Area , I got pissed and spewed in your trimmin thread......For that I truly apologize .....but not ta GA/BB.........

Regardless of BlueBerry`s coverin his ass , I posted the truth and nothing else......I wish you continued success HL and won`t muddle your threads anymore........

One helluva show HL and it was never bout GA usin the twister and me not , but rather him backin up and crawfishing backwards after finding out you weren`t HL @ Youtube.......I`m old head and computer illiterate at best or I could show the quotes bout you being a spamming trim machine salesman and how he was laughin atchas cuz he THOUGHT it was you @ youtube screamin how the tumbleweed was the BEST machine, and then I made a post in a friends thread bout your killer job with the twister and how she oughta come here and check out your thread cuz she had bigtime bunches of buds needin attention as well......

He came back with wonderin what you were gonna be spammin for next yr and I went off.........Again I apologize but I take offense ta liars and bullshit.........

You took his side without seeing his "true" side but no biggie.......I could show no proof and that just made him look better in your eyes and I understand.......Just don`t take no wooden nickels from GA/BB and you`ll be aight.....

Just remember.......Things aren`t always as they seem just cuz one person can bullshit better than the other............

Take care......DHF........

 

[humboldtlocal]

No worries bro, I know you have the best of intentions. I have gotten in a few confrontations on here and I know how angry it can make me. People can be really harsh when they are typing at a keyboard instead of talking face to face.
Lets put it all behind us.

 

[johnyhash]

Great grow.... I hope you and your plants stay safe.

 

[Hawaiian Bud]

HL, Powdery Mildew this year basically wiped me out! I'd say 80% of my meds were infected with it! So I went out and bought a "Sulfur Vaporizer/Burner" I plan to use it ASAP but it came with little instructions at best. I have combed the internet looking methods on how to use it percisely. Have you ever tried using one? I need to find out exactly how to use it. Evidently there is some chemical from Canada that elimanate PM 100%. But you need a license in Canada to obtain the product. So I guess getting it here is out of the question?

HL, have you ever used one of these "Sulfur Vaporizer"?

 

[humboldtlocal]

Aloha HB, I have used sulfur burners in the past with pretty good success. I recommend running them in your greenhouse with your starts only at night. Put it on a timer so it only comes on for an hour. Do this several times a week. You can even run it every night. You don't want it on for more than an hour at a time and you don't want it on during daylight hours. I would run one week on and one week off. Be careful though I have seen those burners ignite and fry whole greenhouses and grow rooms so only on for an hour and keep an eye on it. There are many PM sprays available and many people recommend different ones. I have used Serenade and Organicide. Organicide is also good for mites. You are in a much bigger battle than anyone in Cali will ever face because of the humidity and tropical conditions of your beautiful home. You should talk to other local growers in your area if you know any and see what people are doing. As I recall, just about everyone in Puna is a grower so watch who you take advice from. Listen to the old timers in your area. There are many threads on here about PM so keep searching. There are also some HI growers on here and you might be able to get advice from them. I would start a thread entitled "How do I beat Powdery Mildew in Hawaii". If you can find a product that can beat it there it should work anywhere. Peace.

 

[humboldtlocal]

Also, looking back at your strain selection it looks like you have many Indica dominant strains. As much as you would like to harvest big thick buds I think you have to face the music and go with more Sativa dominant strains when selecting seeds next go around. Any Haze strains should rock out there. Some of the best Sativas I ever smoked were in Hawaii. Those Indica strains mold here so you know they don't stand a chance out there. They are just not meant to handle that humid climate. Good luck brother.

 

[Hawaiian Bud]

thank you for the advice "HL". I always keep my ears & mind open to ideas when cannabis is the focal point.

One last thing about PM, and your experience using a "Sulfur Vaporizer". First off, I realize that I'm way beyond using 'Serenade'. Once you can visably see the PM on your plant. It pretty much means that the diease has already been there for a week or more within the plant. At that point 'Serenade' is useless. I tried alternating several sprays too. I went with 'Organicide', then switched over to one of the Safer products that had sulfur in the solution. Then I see a video from Amsterdam. It's from one of the more famous breeding/seed producers of europe. The worker is talking about their "Sulfur Burner" being a must! So with virtually my entire garden being tainted with PM spores I figure now is the time.

So I can put starters(seedlings/ keikis) in the room while the sulfur is burning. I mean is that what you are saying? Up to how late in flowering can I put them in there with out the buds smelling like a "sulfur fart"? I've also come across two different ideas from the internet. One side says folige should be damp before starting up burner. Other side says just the opposite,...all should be totally dry!! So I'm confused somewhat!

As for people here knowing about "sulfur Burners", I was surprised by the answer from the local supply shop. Dude said the majority of people in Hawaii just aren't hip to sulfur burners. He hadn't sold one in over a year!
I don't mean to hijack your thread "HL", but if you could respond brah to my questions I'd greatly appreciate it!

Aloha

 

[T.rips]

As far as moving to Humboldt, unless you know people here who are going to vouch for you, don't bother. If you think you are just going to move here and start doing what I am doing think again. This did not happen over night and people here do not like newcomers and you will not be welcomed with open arms. Not trying to be harsh but think things through. This is not the safest place and people move here and get way over there heads real quick. You know what they say "come to Humboldt for a vacation, leave on probation".

Thts harsh..i was also thinking about moving up there..i just took a trip up there to look at the prices of houses and things...People seemed real nice and welcoming.. So ur saying tht i should rethink moving up there?

 

[humboldtlocal]

I would say come here with the right intentions and for the right reasons. Don't move here to take advantage of our political climate. Come here to contribute to this community not take advantage of it.

 

[humboldtlocal]

thank you for the advice "HL". I always keep my ears & mind open to ideas when cannabis is the focal point.

One last thing about PM, and your experience using a "Sulfur Vaporizer". First off, I realize that I'm way beyond using 'Serenade'. Once you can visably see the PM on your plant. It pretty much means that the diease has already been there for a week or more within the plant. At that point 'Serenade' is useless. I tried alternating several sprays too. I went with 'Organicide', then switched over to one of the Safer products that had sulfur in the solution. Then I see a video from Amsterdam. It's from one of the more famous breeding/seed producers of europe. The worker is talking about their "Sulfur Burner" being a must! So with virtually my entire garden being tainted with PM spores I figure now is the time.

So I can put starters(seedlings/ keikis) in the room while the sulfur is burning. I mean is that what you are saying? Up to how late in flowering can I put them in there with out the buds smelling like a "sulfur fart"? I've also come across two different ideas from the internet. One side says folige should be damp before starting up burner. Other side says just the opposite,...all should be totally dry!! So I'm confused somewhat!

As for people here knowing about "sulfur Burners", I was surprised by the answer from the local supply shop. Dude said the majority of people in Hawaii just aren't hip to sulfur burners. He hadn't sold one in over a year!
I don't mean to hijack your thread "HL", but if you could respond brah to my questions I'd greatly appreciate it!

Aloha

Sulfur burners work best when used in a closed environment like a grow room or greenhouse. Use them early on your keikis and you shouldn't have to use them when things are budding. I have always used them with the plants dry. I never heard of wetting them down. You really are facing a whole different monster out there than I have ever dealt with so seeking more local expertise is a must. Good luck bro.

 

[Vincent Vega]

From what i hear some of the big boys up north use a systemic mildewcide called Nova 40 right before the flip. Not that I condone or know anything about that....

 

[humboldtlocal]

From what i hear some of the big boys up north use a systemic mildewcide called Nova 40 right before the flip. Not that I condone or know anything about that....

I have never heard of it but I do live under a rock in a cave.

 

[Madrus Rose]

Sulfur burners work best when used in a closed environment like a grow room or greenhouse. Use them early on your keikis and you shouldn't have to use them when things are budding. I have always used them with the plants dry. I never heard of wetting them down. You really are facing a whole different monster out there than I have ever dealt with so seeking more local expertise is a must. Good luck bro.

In the dark period in an enclosed space, burn the sulphur in a still~room for about 4hrs . Laying down a powdery film of the element on all leaf surfaces is the key & go full tilt if burning the sulpur till all leaves are coated ...especially if u happen to be growing a "PM magnet strain ". The other solution is simple using early on into 1rst 12/12, a systemic fungicide like Eagle20 which does the job & does it well . You can be a purist & not like these fungicides but after 20 days or so not even a gas spectrometer will detect their presence in the finished product , so just use them early on boys n girls . And always use a surficant with any foliar application which my fave has always been Johnson's baby shampoo , tho Dr Bronners Castile soap also can be used .

More reading on Eagle20 & other fungicides can be had at this , one of the most premier professional sources of plant care in the world , Rosemania
http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page5.html

* These are the peeps that first offered Floramite which saved my ass many a time 5yrs before any grow store in California had heard of it ! Before that i was reduced to making war on mites with only safers soap which required endless hrs of respraying . Needless to say i have some pretty strong forearms to this day like popeye the sailor ! But a miticide that also kills the eggs too ? Well wonders never cease , eureka moment & "just tits" as the brits would say !

PS: Always loved how the pros up in Canada solved their insect problems in sealed houses by just turning off all fan action in the dark period & flooding the rooms with C02. All life as we know it that breaths Oxy is gone in one fell swoop . Bye bye gnats , spider mites white flies etc . Got to love our brothers & sisters up in the "great white north" , lol, they did invent the bubble bag too as well as growing some pretty healthy fine lasses a man could easily live with ! lol

 

[humboldtlocal]

Great advice on the burner Madrus. I also think we have a lot to be grateful to the Canadians for. They invented the Twister.