RAID at NNCC IN SAN FERNANDO VALLEY CALIFORONIA

[Moldy Dreads]

Just smile and be glad your MP3 player has more than one tune.....over and over.

Yes, ignorant and uneducated Utopian rants gets real old..

Back on track though, IS NNCC going to reopen?

 

[richyrich]

Actually, it's the primary incentive for anyone who grows. The profit may not be defined in dollars, but it's profit nevertheless. Yes, the Corrals grow for profit. They just define profits in warm fuzzies instead of currency.

^ True on that one Pyth.

 

[richyrich]

BD sounds a lot like a welfare recipient. Wants every thing for nothing. Guess a WIC system need to be in place. Why should there be any need to reimburse the growers for time, power, water,cost/depreciation of equipment,work, trimming, rent/mortgage payments for a place to grow, gas to and from the point of sale and the car it's transported in, legal retainer(yes it's needed) and other cost that a giveme never understands, and the fact that if the grower makes no profit to make the venture/risk worthwhile no one would waste their time to grow and deliver for his right to consumption. Maybe in the world of pot socialism everything would be utopia.

Blue Dot puts idealism aside and reasons from dictating the law strictly -- its very apparent. Blue Dot's nickname should be the Ad Hominen Target. JK

False Logic ^

Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):

attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.

For example, the claim that "evolution means a dog giving birth to a cat."

Another example: "Senator Jones says that we should not fund the attack submarine program. I disagree entirely. I can't understand why he wants to leave us defenseless like that."

On the Internet, it is common to exaggerate the opponent's position so that a comparison can be made between the opponent and Hitler.

Fallacy Of The General Rule:

assuming that something true in general is true in every possible case. For example, "All chairs have four legs." Except that rocking chairs don't have any legs, and what is a one-legged "shooting stick" if it isn't a chair?

Similarly, there are times when certain laws should be broken. For example, ambulances are allowed to break speed laws.

Reductio Ad Absurdum:

showing that your opponent's argument leads to some absurd conclusion. This is in general a reasonable and non-fallacious way to argue. If the issues are razor-sharp, it is a good way to completely destroy his argument. However, if the waters are a bit muddy, perhaps you will only succeed in showing that your opponent's argument does not apply in all cases, That is, using Reductio Ad Absurdum is sometimes using the Fallacy Of The General Rule. However, if you are faced with an argument that is poorly worded, or only lightly sketched, Reductio Ad Absurdum may be a good way of pointing out the holes.

Ad Hominem (Argument To The Man):

attacking the person instead of attacking his argument. For example, "Von Daniken's books about ancient astronauts are worthless because he is a convicted forger and embezzler." (Which is true, but that's not why they're worthless.)

Another example is this syllogism, which alludes to Alan Turing's homosexuality:

Turing thinks machines think.
Turing lies with men.
Therefore, machines don't think.

(Note the equivocation in the use of the word "lies".)

A common form is an attack on sincerity. For example, "How can you argue for vegetarianism when you wear leather shoes?" The two wrongs make a right fallacy is related.

A variation (related to Argument By Generalization) is to attack a whole class of people. For example, "Evolutionary biology is a sinister tool of the materialistic, atheistic religion of Secular Humanism." Similarly, one notorious net.kook waved away a whole category of evidence by announcing "All the scientists were drunk."

Another variation is attack by innuendo: "Why don't scientists tell us what they really know; are they afraid of public panic?"

There may be a pretense that the attack isn't happening: "In order to maintain a civil debate, I will not mention my opponent's drinking problem." Or "I don't care if other people say you're [opinionated/boring/overbearing]."

Attacks don't have to be strong or direct. You can merely show disrespect, or cut down his stature by saying that he seems to be sweating a lot, or that he has forgotten what he said last week. Some examples: "I used to think that way when I was your age." "You're new here, aren't you?" "You weren't breast fed as a child, were you?" "What drives you to make such a statement?" "If you'd just listen.." "You seem very emotional." (This last works well if you have been hogging the microphone, so that they have had to yell to be heard.)

Sometimes the attack is on the other person's intelligence. For example, "If you weren't so stupid you would have no problem seeing my point of view." Or, "Even you should understand my next point."

Oddly, the stupidity attack is sometimes reversed. For example, dismissing a comment with "Well, you're just smarter than the rest of us." (In Britain, that might be put as "too clever by half".) This is Dismissal By Differentness. It is related to Not Invented Here and Changing The Subject.

Ad Hominem is not fallacious if the attack goes to the credibility of the argument. For instance, the argument may depend on its presenter's claim that he's an expert. (That is, the Ad Hominem is undermining an Argument From Authority.) Trial judges allow this category of attacks.

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#division

 

[GodzMedZZZ]

"And not anyone could argue with making an example of anyone who profits off the sick would they. I'm just saying, I'm not saying."

What society do you live in?

Who profits off of cancer meds? Aids meds? Cold meds?

PHARMACEUTICAL CORPS. 6:1 ratio of lobbyists to Senators.

I am arguing with you.

YOU ARE FUCKED IN THE HEAD FOR YOUR QUOTE:

"And not anyone could argue with making an example of anyone who profits off the sick would they. I'm just saying, I'm not saying."

At least on this side of things, its not profiting off of providing death in a pill, cigarette, or alcohol form. Why not make a lil profit for providing the sick an honest "service"? I thought that was what this country was supposed to be founded on, something bout "pursuit of happiness"? My happiness comes in a garden full of plants that provide me and my patient's with a safe n real medicinal alternative to the "ritalins" and "oxy's", fuckin addiction in a bottle, then of course the side effekts... But for those risks, and just like any OTHER business in america, there is a profit that the business owner should have for dealing with all those factors... I'll stop there, sorry for my medicated rant, guess i got stoned and grew an opinion today...

 

[richyrich]

^It is true. We all know that MJ is one of the safest therapeutic substances out there. But, the power established long before -- from before most of us were even born -- will not have it so.

 

[Zeinth]

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