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2nd try, same problem. Plants will die. Please help!

Weedlife

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well if his temps are gettin to the 30s its possible an it doesnt say how much he waters to begin with, if he waters only a lil amount then itl dry out quicker. its possible in my experience for it to dry out that quick especially if theres no run off from the waterings hes given.
anyways it takes a lot to overwater a plant the soil needs to be quit soggy an for a number of day. he says he lets it dry out fully, wot more do u want him to say, those pics dont look like the soil is overwatered but without actually physically seeing the plants in their pots no one but him will actually be able to tell us for sure.
i didnt say i thought they were drying out, i meant to say its more likely than overwatering. but probalby isnt the problem either, il jus wait for his input on wot he grows in as its not his soil mix,pots,nutes,or water imo, ive only seen this happen with dodgy soil or those gassy tents or ph causing lockout but thats unusual in biobizz allmix soil, in theory he shouldnt even need to take ph readings.

I have watered just one time since repot and gave about 0,75lt for pot and there was no runoff. Than gave a VERY light watering about 3 days later, with fixed ph, becouse i thought that could be the problem. At that time the soil was already pretty dry, surely the first 3cm were. Then nothing till now. What also made me thought about something else from overwaterin was that the first 2 days right after watering when the soil should have been soaked plants were growing fast and well and stopped when pots began to dry.

ABout the tent: i bought it at a growshop, it costs around 150euros and it should be something designed to grow plants. So i really hope that's not the problem!
 
Now I have grown my first Coco and They are doing Well and ready to Trim and dry in 2 weeks. The problem I am having is that the Clones I took of my girls are just not looking very Good
I used Root Tone and A light mix of Clonex in my coco and put them in pint pots under A dome for a week, They looked great at that point, But now they are not doing good at all. When I took them out of the Dome I started them on A 1/2 Mix of Clonex and Rhizotonic, Both at 1/2 Strenth.

Can some one tell me what they do to keep there clones in good Shape. They are under A T5 Light too I just dont no what I have not done but I am hoping that some one here can Take my hand and lead me to good clones.
 

grimweeder

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Now I have grown my first Coco and They are doing Well and ready to Trim and dry in 2 weeks. The problem I am having is that the Clones I took of my girls are just not looking very Good
I used Root Tone and A light mix of Clonex in my coco and put them in pint pots under A dome for a week, They looked great at that point, But now they are not doing good at all. When I took them out of the Dome I started them on A 1/2 Mix of Clonex and Rhizotonic, Both at 1/2 Strenth.

Can some one tell me what they do to keep there clones in good Shape. They are under A T5 Light too I just dont no what I have not done but I am hoping that some one here can Take my hand and lead me to good clones.

wots this clonex ur using the clonex i know of is a rooting compound so your not suppposed to put that in the soil mix with clones. ur meant to jus dip em in it then put em in jiffy pellets or rockwool for a couple weeks to root out. maybe you should start a seperate thread explaining wot u did again in more detail mate. no need to hijack this one. lol
 

JazzJazz

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Pots are too big for seedlings.......no nutes for 2-3 weeks...just ph'd water....i always half dosage of cal/mag at this point and to me there's no doubt about the overwatering with those pots. I do have to admit tho that i have seen this myself when i had one of the killer huts quite awile back..Not sure if this applies here but just as a side note if all else fails.

Peace,
Jazz
 

grimweeder

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as for your tent wot brand is it cos theres one you can buy off of fleabay but its made from dodgy material that lets off gases when heated that kills the plants. i doubt any hydro/growshops would actually sell it though.( if its branded u dont need to worry.)
if its not a gasy tent it leaves ph being too high or low probably high as someone else mentioned, its probably the only thing left that could do wots happening to yours using wot u use to grow as its pretty fail safe method. compost being simple an easy to use
especially the allmix stuff. i only mentioned the tent as its happened twice now, bad ph once would be fair enough but twice in a row could mean ur waters dodgy from the start or its something else completely but anyways, check ur ph an keep on top of that checking the water before u give it to them an also check the run off,
if its not that them im outta ideas bud. soz
 
Z

Ziggaro

1. that soil is a really hot mix which can cause problems on its own
2. the pH from ur test looks high
3. that pot is way too big and the soil looks too wet

I never used allmix but understand its as strong or stronger than Ocean Forest...
Well I've had 4 foot flowering plants in Ocean Forest cut with about 30% pro-mix and the plants are just now starting to show they need something after 4 weeks..

It might be an iron def but not for lack of iron or any other nutrient for that matter
 

Weedlife

Member
The insides of my tents are in white Polyethylene. And actually it smells as some "brand new plastic", i don't know if this is the case..
About ph, i've just put some new seeds in soil and gave them some ph'd water. Now we see if they grow.. if again they don't then i'm throwing all off the window :D

1. that soil is a really hot mix which can cause problems on its own
2. the pH from ur test looks high
3. that pot is way too big and the soil looks too wet

I never used allmix but understand its as strong or stronger than Ocean Forest...
Well I've had 4 foot flowering plants in Ocean Forest cut with about 30% pro-mix and the plants are just now starting to show they need something after 4 weeks..

It might be an iron def but not for lack of iron or any other nutrient for that matter

Leaves of one plant are starting to turn from yellow to white, it should be sure sing of iron deficency, should it? Yes i don't think that soil lack of any nuts but the high ph might have blocked them. So i hope the only problem is high ph (and yes some overwatering).
 

TheGreenBastard

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I would have to agree on the problem being overwater/Fe def. and I hope they pull through.

A few people had said that your pots are too big, I have found that their is no such thing as too big (within reason).

Also, you might want to keep an eye on your temps, 31c (~88F) is pushing it. You want to get it around 26c (~78F).

(I'm from the States, so excuse the use of Fahrenheit)
 
Z

Ziggaro

Yeah, weedlife. I was alluding to it being high pH causing Iron def

GreenBastard you're right no pots are too big. But the bigger the pot the more careful you have to be with watering. Also, soil compacting causes some root issues so IMO its better to repot every month or two than start in a large pot. You want about 1 gallon of soil for every foot of plant. I usually start off in dixie cups and plant up to a 1 gal, then a 3 or 5 gal.
 

Weedlife

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It was my fukin tent!! OMFG i can't believe this, i have no words... They sell tents that off-gas and kill plants. Really no comment. 3 months of frustrating research of what could the problem ever be, money, seeds and time wasted. Should have listened to grimweeder b4, thanks mate.
 
i think its over watering combined with the pH being off... if you are feeding plain water then there is no need to pH the water... plain water will be buffered by the soil you are using so there is no need to add pH up or down... you shouldn't have to worry about correcting pH until/unless you are using chemical ferts at a high ppm... a good quality soil will do all the pHing for you... to fix let soil dry out very well then water with ONLY water and no additives not even pH up or down, so you can get that soil flushed out
 

Weedlife

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lol, man you didn't understand.. it was my tent. All problems were solved by just takin all plants out of the growbox. It took me 3 months and a shitload of killed plants to understand what the hell was the problem. Nice though i've come to solution.
 

Kcar

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If your tent is polyethylene, then thats not your prob. If it's PVC then it could be.
It really looks like you started your seeds in too big of pots with way too high PH water.

That being said, Offgassing looks like iron def, yellowing and death.
good luck!
 

Weedlife

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lol dude, again. It was my tent, i'm not asking you, i'm telling you.

If your tent is polyethylene, then thats not your prob. If it's PVC then it could be.
It really looks like you started your seeds in too big of pots with way too high PH water.

That being said, Offgassing looks like iron def, yellowing and death.
good luck!

Exactly; they look like this?



And then like this?



And when i take them out... puff! New growth back green ;)



Btw, seedlings you see at beginning of this thread are.. lets say.. 50 plants ago?!? This is the last one. Polyethylene is what the growshop says it to be. And if it's true then polyethylene is a prob for plants, you can bet it is.

That said, killing a plant is not so easy. You need lot more than a too big pot or a high ph.

Peace
 
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