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water?

Compare the cost of the 2 for a minute.

Its not better imo. Spring water gets expensive to water plants with.

Whats wrong with your well or tap water? I just dont want to see you spending 5 dollars or more to water some plants each time.
 

magiccannabus

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Distilled water is great for chemical grows, but an organic grow loves water with more oxygen and different electrical properties. Bubbling it with an airstone helps, but it doesn't change everything. Ironic that you have to make it less pure to be more organic-friendly....
 

maryjohn

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Compare the cost of the 2 for a minute.

Its not better imo. Spring water gets expensive to water plants with.

Whats wrong with your well or tap water? I just dont want to see you spending 5 dollars or more to water some plants each time.

yes compare the two. distilled water has zero trace minerals or dissolved content and no chlorine. Spring water has no chlorine gas, and tons of trace, and maybe some macronutrients. Ok, not tons, but some.

no one asked me what I really recommend: tap water. most of it is fine, especially if you water by some kind of wicking or slow method. I brew EM with straight tap water, and it can't touch the microbes even at 20:1. The ratio of water to microbes is even less in your soil, so how is chlorine supposed to kill everything?

I understand not brewing tea with chloramines or chlorine, but I don't see how watering with tap water is going to decimate the herd. I just won't buy it til someone shows it.
 

C21H30O2

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adding a small amount of humic acid and or asorbic acid will get rid of the chloramines and chlorine in tap water thereby protecting the microherd.
 
C

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If I'm making tea for myself I'll usually just go grab some stream water from the local creek. Works even better than our tap water, though that is fine too. I only use distilled water when I want to test a compost or tea recipe, as it allows for better controls.
 

habeeb

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ascorbic acid no good I say. I suggest carbon or, hell let the microbes take the fall and get rid of it.
 

habeeb

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^ because 99% is chemical made. why use chemical to take away chemical?
 

maryjohn

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Anything with carbon will react with the chlorine, no? Can't you just toss a handful of the soil from your pot into the water and wait ten minutes? Then put it right back.
 

C21H30O2

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but you have the problem of chlormines which will not as easily react with carbon that is why i use asorbic acid unfortunate but until I find a way to insure my water is microherd safe I have no choice.
 

uglybunny

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Sounds counter-intuitive but if you add chlorine(>10ppm) to water with chloramine in it, the chloramine will react with it and turn into chlorine. You have to maintain a pH of around 7, and let it sit for 24h. Then you just get rid of the chlorine like you normally would. Of course after all that its easier to just go to the store.
 

ganja din

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Here's the deal on chloramines as I understand it:

Most cities and townships are now using it in place of chlorine. Chloramine as noted will not dissipate with O2 infusion of water, unlike chlorine.

When organic matter (OM), be it ascorbic acid, humic acid, soil, etc is added to water with chloramines the chlormaines 'attack' the OM until either the OM is gone, or the chloramine gets 'used up' in the process of attacking the OM. Thus, the OM added to remove chloramines will be in worse condition than before it was placed in the water. Also, some OM will force the 'dissipation' of chloramines faster than others.

I agree using ascorbic aicd is ideal. Reasons being I know what quantity one needs to use (genrally 0.01g per gallon), and that it is very fast acting against chlormines (seconds). That, and it keeps the water clear so I can use my cheap-o chlorine test kit from walmart, or pool store. If using humic acid, soil, etc, the water will not be transparent any longer making chloramine testing hard/impossible. Ascorbic acid can also be beneficial to some species of plants, I believe Cannabis spp. is included.

HTH
 

ganja din

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Edit: ascorbic acid = 0.1 g per gallon. Another bonus is AA is sooo inexpensive. A bottle worth a few bucks will last months and months.
 
J

JackTheGrower

Nice on the rose hips MJ..

What do we suggest for the vit C?? Will a rose hip powder work?

If so that's a good reason to grow rosed LOL
 

maryjohn

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Nice on the rose hips MJ..

What do we suggest for the vit C?? Will a rose hip powder work?

If so that's a good reason to grow rosed LOL

easy there, not sure if it is true about rose hips. I believe they are full of Vitamin C as ascorbic acid tho.

If it is true, jack, try Rosa Palustris aka "swamp rose". It can handle flooding and wet feet, draught and dry conditions, shade, frost, heat, disease, bugs whatever you name it it can grow there. Makes a nice crop of hips every year. Plus it is a native rose, so certain native butterflies have an obligatory relationship with it and may need your help. It's prolific, so plant it somewhere it has room if you don't plan on tending it much.

I could send you a cutting if you like in the spring.
 
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