Word from the Obama Admin is coming on mmj

[mrgreengenes1]

The relationship between the future of Medical Marijuana and President Obama’s Healt

The relationship between the future of Medical Marijuana and President Obama’s Healt

I wanted to chime in with a political comment to all you growers, tokers and industry related business people. President Obama has just reiterated his Policy to leave state Medical Marijuana laws to the states. Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines issued Monday by the Obama administration. I do not think I have to tell you folks the importance of that policy or it’s implications for possible future legalization. We collectively need these policies to thrive!
Now let’s think about politics a little. The president and the democrats need to succeed with the big “Health Care Reform Bill” in order to keep the majority in congress and the senate. Most political analysts agree that if Health Care Reform fails the Democrats will suffer losses in the next election. If you want the laws to continue to support decriminalization we have a large stake in the success of the President passing Health Care Reform.
I believe that helping the President will help us all and besides Health Care for everybody is just the right thing to do. Please take a stand and call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them you are a constituent that expects them to support the President. It makes good sense for all of us. YES WE CAN-NABIS!!

 

[SpasticGramps]

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

also he smokes cigarettes, and when he gets cancer he will want to live in a medical state, so he better do it for his health.

 

[420chuy]

 

[kaotic]

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I wanted to chime in with a political comment to all you growers, tokers and industry related business people. President Obama has just reiterated his Policy to leave state Medical Marijuana laws to the states. Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines issued Monday by the Obama administration. I do not think I have to tell you folks the importance of that policy or it’s implications for possible future legalization. We collectively need these policies to thrive!
Now let’s think about politics a little. The president and the democrats need to succeed with the big “Health Care Reform Bill” in order to keep the majority in congress and the senate. Most political analysts agree that if Health Care Reform fails the Democrats will suffer losses in the next election. If you want the laws to continue to support decriminalization we have a large stake in the success of the President passing Health Care Reform.
I believe that helping the President will help us all and besides Health Care for everybody is just the right thing to do. Please take a stand and call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them you are a constituent that expects them to support the President. It makes good sense for all of us. YES WE CAN-NABIS!!

Well said

 

[ItsGrowTime]

I wanted to chime in with a political comment to all you growers, tokers and industry related business people. President Obama has just reiterated his Policy to leave state Medical Marijuana laws to the states. Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines issued Monday by the Obama administration. I do not think I have to tell you folks the importance of that policy or it’s implications for possible future legalization. We collectively need these policies to thrive!
Now let’s think about politics a little. The president and the democrats need to succeed with the big “Health Care Reform Bill” in order to keep the majority in congress and the senate. Most political analysts agree that if Health Care Reform fails the Democrats will suffer losses in the next election. If you want the laws to continue to support decriminalization we have a large stake in the success of the President passing Health Care Reform.
I believe that helping the President will help us all and besides Health Care for everybody is just the right thing to do. Please take a stand and call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them you are a constituent that expects them to support the President. It makes good sense for all of us. YES WE CAN-NABIS!!

I was with you up until the point that you decided to turn this mmj issue into a "Health Care For Everyone!" speech. Health care reform has nothing to do whatsoever with mmj laws. Guess how many times MMJ is mentioned in the 1500 page monstrosity of a health care bill? ZERO. Keep your partisan rhetoric on political websites and off of IC.

(Btw, there's no such thing as free health care. SOMEONE is paying for it.)

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Nobody ever said they wanted free health care...
He said that Healthcare reform was important to Obama's momentum.

I do think that the purpose the founding fathers had for forming this more perfect union was to promote the general welfare of her citizens. People dying because insurance companies make their money by denying people the care they need, is not promoting the general welfare of anyone but the Insurance companies.

I don't care whether of not we get a public health care option(even though we're the only civilized country without one), but I know for damn sure that the Death Panels need to be outlawed. If nothing else we need to reform that.

I also agree with him that if health care reform fails, it will take the wind out of Obama's sails as far as momentum to fix anything else.

 

[toofat]

Nobody ever said they wanted free health care...
He said that Healthcare reform was important to Obama's momentum.

I do think that the purpose the founding fathers had for forming this more perfect union was to promote the general welfare of her citizens. People dying because insurance companies make their money by denying people the care they need, is not promoting the general welfare of anyone but the Insurance companies.

I don't care whether of not we get a public health care option(even though we're the only civilized country without one), but I know for damn sure that the Death Panels need to be outlawed. If nothing else we need to reform that.

I also agree with him that if health care reform fails, it will take the wind out of Obama's sails as far as momentum to fix anything else.

I concur.

 

[mrgreengenes1]

I was with you up until the point that you decided to turn this mmj issue into a "Health Care For Everyone!" speech. Health care reform has nothing to do whatsoever with mmj laws. Guess how many times MMJ is mentioned in the 1500 page monstrosity of a health care bill? ZERO. Keep your partisan rhetoric on political websites and off of IC.

(Btw, there's no such thing as free health care. SOMEONE is paying for it.)

I never said anything about free health care. What we want and expect is coverage that actually pays for things instead of just taking your money for 30 years (mine - $12,000.00+ last year alone) and then when you have a claim or get old they say pre-existing condition and deny claims or dump you. We do actually need health care reform in this country! But back to the issue if you really want to keep decriminalization going we must support the President's Agenda. If you want a bunch of tight ass politicians back in office telling us what a sin marijuana is then fight the President's agenda. Quite frankly the democrats can hardly get the job done with a majority.

 

[kmk420kali]

I never said anything about free health care. What we want and expect is coverage that actually pays for things instead of just taking your money for 30 years (mine - $12,000.00+ last year alone) and then when you have a claim or get old they say pre-existing condition and deny claims or dump you. We do actually need health care reform in this country! But back to the issue if you really want to keep decriminalization going we must support the President's Agenda. If you want a bunch of tight ass politicians back in office telling us what a sin marijuana is then fight the President's agenda. Quite frankly the democrats can hardly get the job done with a majority.

You're right that we need Health Care reform...just not what he is dictating--
I would rather see weed stay illegal, than support a Bill that will doom Americans to "Taking what the Gov is willing to give them"--

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

You're right that we need Health Care reform...just not what he is dictating--
I would rather see weed stay illegal, than support a Bill that will doom Americans to "Taking what the Gov is willing to give them"--

what is he dictating?

 

[SpasticGramps]

Don't turn the thread into
Health Care has nothing to do with this.

 

[kmk420kali]

what is he dictating?

That all Americans will be forced to buy Health care insurance...if they can't afford private, then they can settle for what the Gov will give them...and I know first hand, that when on a Gov Program...ie; MediCal...you do not get the opportunity to choose...and if your needed "Medical Needs" are not on "Their" List...you do not get it--
Same ol' song and dance--

 

[mrgreengenes1]

That all Americans will be forced to buy Health care insurance...if they can't afford private, then they can settle for what the Gov will give them...and I know first hand, that when on a Gov Program...ie; MediCal...you do not get the opportunity to choose...and if your needed "Medical Needs" are not on "Their" List...you do not get it--
Same ol' song and dance--

Jim, What about when you are paying $12,000.00 a year in premiums and they still won't "give" you anything. We are not talking about state programs anyway. The US medicare program does very well for most people and if you add a small supplement they will pay the balances for almost everything. I would be thrilled with medicare but I am still several years away from it. I guarantee you Medicare would be better than the "Blue" insurance company I have been fighting with.

 

[kmk420kali]

Jim, What about when you are paying $12,000.00 a year in premiums and they still won't "give" you anything. We are not talking about state programs anyway. The US medicare program does very well for most people and if you add a small supplement they will pay the balances for almost everything. I would be thrilled with medicare but I am still several years away from it. I guarantee you Medicare would be better than the "Blue" insurance company I have been fighting with.

MediCare has very many flaws...Patients still have to pay...and pay for Supplements-- It helps, I consed that...but if that is the best they can do for the relatively small percentage of the population that is over 65...then what are they going to be able to do for 100% of the Population??
Nothing, I fear--

Ps..thank you for the respectfulness...between personal events today...and hearing of this shit the LA Counsel is trying to pass...I feel very angry today....I think maybe I should take a Flexeril and a joint...and try again tomorrow--lol

 

[SeniorBuzz]

Off topic: I have Medicare Advantage through Kaiser, and I'm satisfied with it. However you never know how good your insurance is until you undergo a major test of your coverage; that's where the rubber meets the road.

With respect to healthcare reform, fraud reform should be first, along with Euro drug prices, tort reform, and billing reform, all should be done first ahead of anything else.

 

[ItsGrowTime]

Jim, What about when you are paying $12,000.00 a year in premiums and they still won't "give" you anything. We are not talking about state programs anyway. The US medicare program does very well for most people and if you add a small supplement they will pay the balances for almost everything. I would be thrilled with medicare but I am still several years away from it. I guarantee you Medicare would be better than the "Blue" insurance company I have been fighting with.

You actually, though inadvertently I'm sure, pointed out what's wrong with this whole gov't health care ponzi scheme. Medicare is broke. Medicaid is broke. Medicare-D was never formally even funded. This new "plan" is nothing but a way to pay for the $60 trillion in unfunded entitlements that past politicians promised yet never even thought about how to pay for. So now that those funds are going into the red ink, the politicians must figure out how to take MORE money from you to keep the ponzi scheme going. Cap and Trade global warming carbon taxes are another part of it but I digress. It will be treated the same as Medicare taxes and Social Security. And like Medicare and SS, it'll end up broke eventually too. You should look at the bigger picture of what this is all about. MONEY! As always. Politicians don't give a rat's ass about your health. If they did, cigarettes, vodka, Whoppers, and cars would all be illegal already.

Watch this 30 minute video, I.O.U.S.A, for the eyepopping truth about the financial future of the US. (There's a full 1hr 30min version available on Google video I think)
http://www.iousathemovie.com/

But at your age, I doubt you care what happens to us younger folk as long as you get what you want, right? Im getting pretty tired of paying into shit that I'll never get back, just to keep politicians winning re-election and the special interests, like big pharma and La Raza, fat and happy on my dime.

I never said anything about free health care. What we want and expect is coverage that actually pays for things instead of just taking your money for 30 years (mine - $12,000.00+ last year alone) and then when you have a claim or get old they say pre-existing condition and deny claims or dump you.

Here's a suggestion. Save your money (12k per year is A LOT) and then spend it on yourself later in life when you need it. Or is self reliance too much to ask for? Giving the control of your money to someone else is always asking for trouble. Why people believe they can trust others with their cash blows my mind. Just save your money and it'll be there waiting for you instead of hoping that someone will be kind enough to give you back your own money.



Back to mmj now please.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

You actually, though inadvertently I'm sure, pointed out what's wrong with this whole gov't health care ponzi scheme. Medicare is broke. Medicaid is broke. Medicare-D was never formally even funded. This new "plan" is nothing but a way to pay for the $60 trillion in unfunded entitlements that past politicians promised yet never even thought about how to pay for. So now that those funds are going into the red ink, the politicians must figure out how to take MORE money from you to keep the ponzi scheme going. Cap and Trade global warming carbon taxes are another part of it but I digress. It will be treated the same as Medicare taxes and Social Security. And like Medicare and SS, it'll end up broke eventually too. You should look at the bigger picture of what this is all about. MONEY! As always. Politicians don't give a rat's ass about your health. If they did, cigarettes, vodka, Whoppers, and cars would all be illegal already.

Watch this 30 minute video, I.O.U.S.A, for the eyepopping truth about the financial future of the US. (There's a full 1hr 30min version available on Google video I think)
http://www.iousathemovie.com/

But at your age, I doubt you care what happens to us younger folk as long as you get what you want, right? Im getting pretty tired of paying into shit that I'll never get back, just to keep politicians winning re-election and the special interests, like big pharma and La Raza, fat and happy on my dime.



Here's a suggestion. Save your money (12k per year is A LOT) and then spend it on yourself later in life when you need it. Or is self reliance too much to ask for? Giving the control of your money to someone else is always asking for trouble. Why people believe they can trust others with their cash blows my mind. Just save your money and it'll be there waiting for you instead of hoping that someone will be kind enough to give you back your own money.



Back to mmj now please.

Medicare may be broken, but private insurance is way more broken.

Screw reforming any government programs... take that off of the table...

Private health insurance is in DIRE need of reform!!
Health care reform is NOT about ponzi schemes of handouts...
It is about Stopping the greedy Insurance companies from stealing peoples money. It is about stopping the HMO's and PPO's to stop running the price of healkthcare to suce rediculous levels that normal hard working folks cannot afford basic health care....

The system is set up to punish people who Save their money and be self reliant. That's why we need health care reform...


All of your political propaganda words like
ponzi scheme and free healthcare are meaningless to the real issue.

Our current health care system steals peoples money and denies them the care they already paid for.

We could go back to MMJ, if you would stop spewing anti-reform propaganda.

 

[mrgreengenes1]

You actually, though inadvertently I'm sure, pointed out what's wrong with this whole gov't health care ponzi scheme. Medicare is broke. Medicaid is broke. Medicare-D was never formally even funded. This new "plan" is nothing but a way to pay for the $60 trillion in unfunded entitlements that past politicians promised yet never even thought about how to pay for. So now that those funds are going into the red ink, the politicians must figure out how to take MORE money from you to keep the ponzi scheme going. Cap and Trade global warming carbon taxes are another part of it but I digress. It will be treated the same as Medicare taxes and Social Security. And like Medicare and SS, it'll end up broke eventually too. You should look at the bigger picture of what this is all about. MONEY! As always. Politicians don't give a rat's ass about your health. If they did, cigarettes, vodka, Whoppers, and cars would all be illegal already.

Watch this 30 minute video, I.O.U.S.A, for the eyepopping truth about the financial future of the US. (There's a full 1hr 30min version available on Google video I think)
http://www.iousathemovie.com/

But at your age, I doubt you care what happens to us younger folk as long as you get what you want, right? Im getting pretty tired of paying into shit that I'll never get back, just to keep politicians winning re-election and the special interests, like big pharma and La Raza, fat and happy on my dime.



Here's a suggestion. Save your money (12k per year is A LOT) and then spend it on yourself later in life when you need it. Or is self reliance too much to ask for? Giving the control of your money to someone else is always asking for trouble. Why people believe they can trust others with their cash blows my mind. Just save your money and it'll be there waiting for you instead of hoping that someone will be kind enough to give you back your own money.



Back to mmj now please.

You said "Keep your partisan rhetoric on political websites and off of IC." What I said was not nearly as partisan as your posts and agenda!