First Hydro Grow Ever

EvilTwin · Sep 26, 2009

californiajoe said:
well, its been a week and these girls are getting big. not seeing any pre-flowers yet though? how long does that typically take?

Hi Joe,
Pre-flowers actually can occur in vegging plants. I personally don't rely on them. Once I see multiple stamen in clusters or pistils sticking out the top...then I'll call them.

Should be any day now...
ET

californiajoe · Sep 26, 2009

thanks once again, kind sir. i think im just paranoid b/c of the pin hole sized holes in the tent that i recently posted about. im gonna clean and change the tray and res on monday though. when i do that, i will lock myself in and duct tape these potential leaks. the tent is in a room with all the blinds closed, but there is still light in the room.

californiajoe · Sep 26, 2009

man, after further research, i think im gonna wish i had a 600w instead of 400.

californiajoe · Sep 27, 2009

here are the photos, as promised.

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=26283&stc=1&d=1253941526

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californiajoe · Sep 27, 2009

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=26286&stc=1&d=1253941646

one last photo. still only feeding them once a day for about 15-20 minutes and it seems to be fine, but awful lot less than what most people do...

Kanye WeED · Sep 27, 2009

looks god man nice hydro grow, what watt light is that?

looks kinda dim from the pics

is a higher watt possible not that u need it but more watts + bigger buds usually but ive seen real nice buds done with low watt lights so if u know what ur doing sorry for sticking my nose where it dont belong!!

ha ha

good luck!!!!

californiajoe · Sep 27, 2009

Kanye WeED said:
looks god man nice hydro grow, what watt light is that?

looks kinda dim from the pics

is a higher watt possible not that u need it but more watts + bigger buds usually but ive seen real nice buds done with low watt lights so if u know what ur doing sorry for sticking my nose where it dont belong!!

ha ha

good luck!!!!

thanks for stopping in, kanye (never thought I'd type anything like that before)! They are under a 400w hps, but I had turn the light off and back on to take a decent picture from my phone. I did just post earlier today too, that I wished I had opted for the 600 or 1000w. Just thought for such a small tent it would be enough. Oh well, live and learn.

californiajoe · Sep 27, 2009

^^^i meant typing a thanks to kanye, not you lol.

rocket high · Sep 27, 2009

joe i grow with 2 X 400w hps one per square meter and i get great yields ... try using more reflective materials to gain more light coverage i dont but it might help you? ........heres some rep for using hydro and not dirt

californiajoe · Oct 3, 2009

rocket high said:
joe i grow with 2 X 400w hps one per square meter and i get great yields ... try using more reflective materials to gain more light coverage i dont but it might help you? ........heres some rep for using hydro and not dirt

thanks rocket! the tent i use (growlab) has highly reflective material inside.

also, (mainly for my records, but have a question about health too), i cleaned out my res and tray yesterday and added 3/4 strength bloom and micro nutrients (10/5 tbl spoons). the bottom leaves on most of the plants are turning yellow and brown and kind of shriveling up...nitrogen deficiency?

rocket high · Oct 3, 2009

put up a pic joe if u can ...here's a pic of mine...it was over fed coz of a dirty truncheon fixed now tho but too late to stop the rusting (mobile pic sorry) http://icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=8578&pictureid=176981

californiajoe · Oct 16, 2009

sorry for the delay. things are going okay, maybe. after watering for almost 24 hours on accident a week or so ago, i've experienced a LOT of yellowing/wilting/dying leaves yet a lot of frost bud production on the top? ph is right below 6 and should have the right amount of nutrients.

i was feeding/watering once per day before the over-watering incident. i didn't water for 24 hours and noticed continued deterioration, mainly of the bottom leaves, but working their way up the plant. please note the orange hue from the lights...here are some pictures:

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=28899&stc=1&d=1255578908

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californiajoe · Oct 16, 2009

couple more pictures:

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=28904&stc=1&d=1255579078

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=28905&stc=1&d=1255579078

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=28903&stc=1&d=1255579078

http://icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=28906&stc=1&d=1255579078

any help on the yellowing issue would be GREATLY appreciated!

EvilTwin · Oct 16, 2009

Hi Guys,
Rocket High, I'd sure say your plant recovered nicely. It's looking great.

CJ...man I wish I had some specific advice to give you. My guess is that it will just take some time to recover. You might want to add a root rot treatment regimen just in case. If there are some roots that died off, that will help...and if not, it won't hurt anything. People use 35% H202 but I'm not at all familiar with any of the commercial products. (One advantage of hydroton in E&F is that root problems are rare so I've never had to deal with it.)

If you use peroxide...research the dosage carefully since it's potent stuff and too much can burn roots.

Good luck,
ET

californiajoe · Oct 21, 2009

thanks et. i think it was a combination of that over-watering incident and then an overall lack of watering as i continued to only water once per day for 15 minutes. the roots are green, not brown, which i assume means no root rot?

also, today, 31st day of flower, i emptied the res and scrubbed it out, although without soap or anything. there was some algae in there though. per the instructions of the nutes from the local hydro, i gave it full strength bloom nutes and 1/2 strength micro nutes. hopefully with the cooler temps recently and upped watering schedule (2x's per day now), i get this shit figured out.

furley · Oct 21, 2009

Your res might not be light-proof if there was algae in there :X

californiajoe · Oct 24, 2009

furley, it definitely isn't light proof, doesn't even have a lid

. i will get a better res for the next cycle.

Old time lurker · Nov 7, 2009

Interesting to watch your grow develop! Good luck on the finish.

EvilTwin · Nov 7, 2009

californiajoe said:
the roots are green, not brown, which i assume means no root rot?

Mornin' CJ,
Roots are generally white...though they can take on a tint from certain nutrients being used. Dirt growers who use worm casting teas often have tan roots. But green roots sound odd. Do they smell good? A foul smell is a sure indication of root rot...along with mushy discolored roots (brown to black).

Anyway...glad you're still hanging in there. Take care dude...
ET

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