What r the benefits of going organic?

[desant]

For me it is the improved, more natural taste and smell of weed as well as more wholesome high

 

[BurnOne]

I did it because it was so easy.
Burn1

 

[getawaycar]

at this stage of my life i prefer the entire philosophy of organics. inb4 hippy.
i like feeding the life inside of the soil instead of delivering chemical nutrients directly to the plant via hydroponics.

i feel like the microbes and fungus surrounding the root systems have evolved with the plants (for ALOT longer than humans) perfecting the art of becoming mutualistic and providing perfect amounts of food to the roots as they grow together...

its also a bit more forgiving imo.

can people ACTUALLY taste a difference between soil grown and PROPERLY grown hydroponic weed?

 

[NOYB]

can people ACTUALLY taste a difference between soil grown and PROPERLY grown hydroponic weed?

Yes

 

[Hazy Lady]

IMO

IMO

can people ACTUALLY taste a difference between soil grown and PROPERLY grown hydroponic weed?

Yes

No! I have tasted some bloody awful 'organic' grown weed, it is not a guarantee for perfect tasting smoke

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

I can tell the difference between organic and hydro and i can tell people what they used to grow their bud from taste, smell, and looks. It freaks people out when I tell them what nutes they used, even down to the sweetener. Organic weed also has an incredible softness to it when done right. I started as an organic grower than switched to hydro chem tactics and loved the results, but now I am a lot better than I was and I do complete organics now and I am not looking back. Also, dont listen to these crazy people that tell you that you dont have to flush organic weed. Unflushed organic weed is just as bad as unflushed chem weed. Both methods need a proper flush and are both good in there own ways, but organic weed is by far superior. At least the organic weed I grow

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Is this question regarding:

1. Soil Grows using Organic based Nutrients vs a Soil Grow using Inorganic based nutrients

2. Soil Grows using Organic based Nutrients vs Hydro Grow using Organic based Nutrients

3. Soil grow using Inorganic based Nutes vs Hydro grow using Organic based Nutrients

4. Growing in Soil vs Growing in hydroponics.....


People really need to understand what an "organic" nutrient vs a non-organic nutrient and how all that relates to the different medium you are using..

"Going organic" can mean many things, including using a "organically based" chemical in hydro that smells like a chemical.............................

 

[Moldy Dreads]

I can tell the difference between organic and hydro and i can tell people what they used to grow their bud from taste, smell, and looks. It freaks people out when I tell them what nutes they used, even down to the sweetener. Organic weed also has an incredible softness to it when done right. I started as an organic grower than switched to hydro chem tactics and loved the results, but now I am a lot better than I was and I do complete organics now and I am not looking back. Also, dont listen to these crazy people that tell you that you dont have to flush organic weed. Unflushed organic weed is just as bad as unflushed chem weed. Both methods need a proper flush and are both good in there own ways, but organic weed is by far superior. At least the organic weed I grow

You are confusing many things..read the post above, you will learn that in school if you study horticulture.

 

[maryjohn]

threads like this tend to start fights and bring out the narcissists.

 

[NOYB]

No! I have tasted some bloody awful 'organic' grown weed, it is not a guarantee for perfect tasting smoke

No shit.

If you put 'improperly' grown organic against 'properly' grown hydro what the hell do you think the results will be...lol.

 

[getawaycar]

i guess i dont understand why everything in a soil grow cannot be added in solution to a hydro setup.

im thinking that certain soil additives break down slower releasing key elements over time.. and drainage/water retention properties allow a more "natural" soak and dry period (imo) and that everything is dictated by the mycorrhiza


someone who was trying to sell me something once told me that the guano from these special fruit bats eat specifically mangos and it was known to "make your fruits and vegetables taste like mangos"

whats up old heads. give me the staight dope

i kind of think thats some more bullshit.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

threads like this tend to start fights and bring out the narcissists.

Specially when people have no clue what they want to say or have limited understanding about what some things involve..
I've had excellent soil and hydroponically grown herb, both methods rock. Organic vs inorganic is very technical discussion and basics need to be covered if you want an intelligent convo.IMVHO

 

[NOYB]

I've had excellent soil and hydroponically grown herb

So have I.

I was running a strain GH in rockwool and was much better than most any of the local soil grown stuff my friends had. Many never knew it was GH hydro. I did grow that same strain AN in coco, bottle fed 100% organic (not organic based) in an OF/coco/perlite blend and also organic (dry ammendments with some Liquid Karma and Maxicrop plus a tea or two) in that same OF blend all indoors and also organic (not organic based outdoors) over a 3 year period. By far the best was the organic soil (dry amendments). I got both the GH and AN programs from 2 different commercial growers so they were dialed in. Not many have run the same strain that many different ways.

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

You are confusing many things..read the post above, you will learn that in school if you study horticulture.

Sorry if things were misconstrued. I dont know what I said wrong. I just like properly grown organic bud more than properly grown chem bud. Just my preference. I have smoked plenty of chemically grown weed that I absolutely loved though. Granted there are a lot of different methods of growing and I didnt want to get that in depth on the subject because there are plenty of forums on it so I was kind of speaking about my experience with organics vs. chemicals on a whole.

Maryjohn: Sorry about the narcissistic tone to the end of my last post, but it was followed with a winky face emoticon implying that I wasnt serious. No fighting here.

Hope you all have a good day and find happiness and success however which way you grow cannabis.

 

[jaykush]

for me its

- cost efficiency
- Independence from store bought products
- ease of use
- low input, high yield
- peace of mind
- the healthy lifestyle it brings along

and im sure there is more

 

[maryjohn]

Smug self-satisfaction.

To put it nobly, it's a moral choice. The rest is pros and cons.

 

[Moldy Dreads]

for me its

- cost efficiency
- Independence from store bought products
- ease of use
- low input, high yield
- peace of mind
- the healthy lifestyle it brings along

and im sure there is more

So I guess it is basically an organic approach to using soil right?, only natural nutrients like guano, worm castings, and compost etc.

I agree with Jaykush, it is awesome to grow naturally in soil with no nutes and the beautiful complexities of teas, bacterial colonies etc and how they affect the terpenes, but, I have seen people dial in some ridiculously nice herb on "Organic" nutes on hydro tables. You would never know if the nutes were "organic" or not. The chemicals in the bottles looked and smelled like a non-organic nute..

I like soil grows, but hydro does things to plants that cannot be achieved so easily in soil *in the same conditions.

 

[maryjohn]

Here's one for your head: organic growing uses non carbon-based materials for nutrients, like rock phosphate.

You are confused about the word organic as it refers to horticulture and as it refers to chemistry. Lay term v technical term.

 

[NOYB]

for me its
- cost efficiency
- Independence from store bought products
- ease of use
- low input, high yield
- peace of mind
- the healthy lifestyle it brings along

In general I'd have to agree with this. I really like it's simplicity once you get the hang of it. I build pots with a mild soil mix but rely mainly on layers, spikes and sometimes top dressings. After that I usually just go to the tap and 'just add water'...gotta love that.

 

[jaykush]

I agree with Jaykush, it is awesome to grow naturally in soil with no nutes and the beautiful complexities of teas, bacterial colonies etc and how they affect the terpenes, but, I have seen people dial in some ridiculously nice herb on "Organic" nutes on hydro tables. You would never know if the nutes were "organic" or not. The chemicals in the bottles looked and smelled like a non-organic nute..

of course i use nutrients, its just they are not in the form of a bottle of liquid or a powder to be mixed with water, they are almost all raw materials. teas are only a small part of the whole picture and will only get you so far. the amount of fine tuning you can do with organics is far superior to chemical growing imo. the amounts of different materials nature provides vs what comes off the shelf is no comparison.

all that said now, i have smoked some REAL good chemical grown weed. its all a matter of perfecting either one. a noob at hydro vs a organic pro is no contest and the same goes for the other way around.