Does anyone use House and Garden Bud XL?

[Natagonnaworrie]

The label reads:

"House & Garden Bud-XL has the unique ability to extract sugars from the leaf of the plant and transfer them to the fruit. The fruit is thus made sweeter and its taster improved. Bud-XL also increases the size and robustness of the flower, resulting in an increase in fruit production and a greater yield."

It doesnt a significant amount of macro or micro nutes. I'm going to give it a try on my upcoming 600w E&F using Flora Nova bloom.

Just curious if anyone else has had good or bad experiences with this combo.

Grow Big

NGW

 

[chicalyx]

bump...

description kinda makes it sound like a carb load product w/enzymes. expensive botanicare sweet?

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

thanks for the Bump

i was hoping someone new about this product. i dont think it works like 'Sweet' ...maybe more like a Beastie Bloomz or Top Max.

Anyway, if no one chimes in i am gonna use it with FloraNova products in my next grow starting Sat. I guess we'll see.

a little surprised no one knows anything since its H&G and so expensive.

 

[Greyskull]

Hey bro just to keep the bumps bumping heres $0.02...

maybe you should just run with all flora nova products and see how they work together? In my opinion keeping things in the same line ensures they will work together optimally...

H&G is what a good buddy of mine swears by. And Caligreen rocks it... you should chec with him 'cause he gets great results with H&G stuff.

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

for sure, i'll check that.

i went to to a little hydro expo and H&G were giving away samples... except they were full sized jugs. I asked the dude what he thought of the combo, but of course he was like, "ya, our shit will enhance any nute program.."

sales... but love the free nutes. maybe i'll grab some more H&G for another run with just that.

 

[jiggasouza]

Brah, I rock this the House & Garden line. It's killer. The only thing better IMO, is the pure blend pro . I would HIGHLY recommend House & Garden to anyone.

 

[ReachN4TheSun]

Another 0.02, i have to agree, if you can afford it....H&G all the way, might not be for the first time grower imo, not sure about mixing with another product line?

 

[Surfr]

Bumpin this up...

Anyone using this stuff??

 

[GroHi]

Old thread...

They recommend using it towards the last half of the flower cycle in stead of Multizym, which I use regularly. Didn't notice a bit of difference when switching over... none. Maybe that was me...? No difference in anything I could detect. Just don't see how any product can operate as it advertises... and I like the H&G, so not knocking the line, just this product. Peace.

 

[shaunmulok]

have a good smell of it, it smells like maple syrup, it smells sweet which what makes me think its just a carbo load, i have been using it but cant see any extraordinary results i will switch back to molasses when it is gone

 

[Harvest]

I use H&G and love it. switched over from advanced's grow and conni....i use bud xl last 5 weeks of flower.....heres a handy tool h&g has on their website.
http://www.house-garden.us/PrinterFriendly/index.html

 

[krunchbubble]

wow! i never knew about that printable chart! nice find player!

 

[ogatec]

Hey bro just to keep the bumps bumping heres $0.02...

maybe you should just run with all flora nova products and see how they work together? In my opinion keeping things in the same line ensures they will work together optimally...

H&G is what a good buddy of mine swears by. And Caligreen rocks it... you should chec with him 'cause he gets great results with H&G stuff.

i totally agree i would use GH additives with flora, if you want to try the bud xl i would do the whole lineup.. i didnt see much improvment when using the bud xl, but my plants were doing really well already on that line whole line... my fav. product from them is the multi enzyme... GREAT stuff thr roots LOVE it..


i think i will go back to that line eventually because i have all my problems solved that i was having back then. theres no sense in using an expensive premium fertilizer line unless your room is completely dialed in..

on another not my buds tasted GREAT when using their products, ir t could have been from the bud XL but i cant say that for sure.

 

[montehierba]

BUD X-L

BUD X-L

Needless to say this new product has come to stay, xxxxelent results no questions asked.

 

[mister c]

Yeah i have ran it before...but also along with a bunch of other shtuff. But i think it does smell/taste a lil better.

A lot of shit you can get to make your herb taste better tho.

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

Wow, i started this thread almost a year ago and here it is. I was doing a search for 'Bud XL' because i still have a large bottle of it in my tub o nutes and it is really calling to me. I have had 4 very successful harvest since then but i never tapped into this stuff because i couldnt find a lot of feedback on it. I have stuck with the FloroNova or Lucas ever since. (maybe time to change it up ) Also i took the advice of Greyskull and didn't deviate from one line to another.

This time though, mostly out of curiosity i'm going to add it. I'll do 3.5 mls per gallon when i feed Lucas (thanks Harvest for the interactive chart) If it looks good i'll keep it up until the end of flowering, if things start to go downhill i will discontinue it.

Luckily i'm at Day 20 of flowering today so next week it will start. If you want to see the results for yourself the link to my current grow is in my sig.

Peace all. We'll say i'm doing it in the name of exploration

 

[Outportgrower]

Sticky with this line or that is all in how you go about it. Moderation and learning what you are mixing works far better. I run Technaflora, Grotek Optimum and a few others all in the same grow with great results. Seems to be that after years of playing you get to know what the chemical make up you require on your own over a company trying to tell you what you need.

I would suggest people reading up on plant biology and chemical formulations if only just a little. You will be surprised what you can achieve with a little knowledge. And how much you will be able to save from not falling for product A or B when product C at 1/2 the price will do far better.

 

[grapeman]

I too use H & G. I use Bud XL. I don't mix other lines in the nutes unless it's Cal-Mag for the Mg hungry strains. I use liquid light, among others as a foliar, but in the res tank, I like to use a single line of products.

Mixing products? You might as well just buy your own N-P-K from the Ag supplier and try mixing your own. Unless you start with the basics, or have a degree in chemistry, you really don't know what's up.

 

[Outportgrower]

I too use H & G. I use Bud XL. I don't mix other lines in the nutes unless it's Cal-Mag for the Mg hungry strains. I use liquid light, among others as a foliar, but in the res tank, I like to use a single line of products.

Mixing products? You might as well just buy your own N-P-K from the Ag supplier and try mixing your own. Unless you start with the basics, or have a degree in chemistry, you really don't know what's up.

Most first year Sci based university courses offer you enough knowledge to be able to properly mix and match commercially avaliable nutrients and additives if you take a little time to research them and to experiment as you go. You should also be able to glean enough information as to what each product contains from the MSDS they are required to publish to go along with the products. Not too sure about other countries, but at least in Canada biology and chemistry are pretty basic classes that just about everyone needs to take at some point during post secondary education.

A even simpler solution, not always perfect mind you is to just use the NPK numbers. Use your base points and continue to add to them to reach your targeted goals. This and others have never failed for me anyway, and I no longer perform res changes during the entire grow. I keep my numbers low as you should at the start, and gradually work up to a set point of 1100ppm during flowering, while lowering the growth formula and increasing the bloom with a boost of PK during the budding and flower stages till it is time to draw back and top off with a sweetener.

This is something that I have needed to learn from over ten years though, and I would not expect someone to be able to jump right in and do the same first time or even the fifth time growing. Each strain and plant require a slight modification to the mixture. Knowing what your plants are saying at each phase it crucial to success.

If you have a bloom booster that works for you, keep going with it. Over time you will begin to move the numbers around and will be able to see what is written on the label is not what always will be the best under all conditions. Environmental variables, inconsistencies in the formula or batch from the manufacturer tend to cause slight modifications to your optimal growth and yield. Just need to know when to cut back, or when to increase based on each individual round.

But I would bet that everyone that runs the recipe at the manufactures recommended amounts has fluctuations and tip burn. I think we all know they over prescribe to boost sales and nothing more.

 

[festivus]

Bumpin this up...

Anyone using this stuff??

I've been using H & G Bud-XL for about a year. My hydro guy suggested it when I said my stash was all tasting the same (using the 3 FF liquid nutes). The directions say use it starting in the 6th week of flowering. I f'd up and used it in the 6th week of growth. It really tweeked the white rhino, lots of weird growth and twisted leaves, and it looked like the plants were reversing sex. When I figured out my boo boo, I stopped. The plants eventually went back into normal flowering and produced an above average harv. Now I use it the right way, after the 6th week. I'm getting a wider range of flavors with a slightly increased yield. Can't say it was worth the $$ tho...