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PlayaPlaya

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Somebody on here had laid out the costs of growing, they came to 50 cents an ounce. I cant seem to find the post now, it was quite informative.

Anybody got a link ?

thanks
 

Hydro-Soil

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Somebody on here had laid out the costs of growing, they came to 50 cents an ounce. I cant seem to find the post now, it was quite informative.

Anybody got a link ?

thanks
Never saw the thread but I can tell you right now it's unrealistic. Only way you can come up with a figure for that is if the time of the grower is free and I know mine is a whole lot more expensive than nothing. Approximately 2K/lb. is about right, for a small garden.

Electricity, equipment, nutes and odor control wise? I can see it going below 50 cents, in a commercial scale setup. Outdoor would be even cheaper, with specialized equipment for harvesting, though the quality would be substantially less.
 

PhenoMenal

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To grow cannabis you need to provide $water, $nutrients, and if indoors $lights. You also need about 3 months of the aforementioned expenses to bring it to harvest.

Think about it.
 
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theratings

One time I did see someone, in a topic about the high price of weed, spell out the amount of money it costs them to grow per oz in order to justify why he doesn't tax his weed. I don't think that's the one you want though, since I think he said it costs him like $20 to produce an oz overall.

I googled it for you though, it might have been this post by DrBud:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1547911&postcount=437

who grows with compact fluorescent bulbs in a small sea of green setup.
 

PlayaPlaya

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One time I did see someone, in a topic about the high price of weed, spell out the amount of money it costs them to grow per oz in order to justify why he doesn't tax his weed. I don't think that's the one you want though, since I think he said it costs him like $20 to produce an oz overall.

I googled it for you though, it might have been this post by DrBud:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=1547911&postcount=437

who grows with compact fluorescent bulbs in a small sea of green setup.

YEP! Thats it! THANKYOU!
I tried Google, couldnt find the post.

thanks!
 

NorCalFor20

Smokes, lets go
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lets see how much my weed cost me to make,

2x 1kw ballast- $300
2x 1kw hortilux- $180
2x 6" Vortex- $340
2x Super Sun 2- $220
Portable AC- $600
Carbon Filter- $180
Ducting- $50
Reflective Film- $130
Nutes- $200
Doctors Recommendation $200
Clones-$240
EC/PPM Meter- $260
Osc Fans- $50
24 Bucket Multiflow System- $700
B&W Poly+ Tarp Zipper- $50
2 Intermatic Timers- $40
2 10 Ga Ext. Cables- $60
Air Stone- $60
Air Pump- $60
Duct Tape-$20
3 months of electricity bills- $1000

not including other small things i left out like hangers, pest control, etc

Cost me $5000+

(not including my time expense, and risk)


...so much for .50 cents/ounce, good luck growing anything worth smoking with that kind of budget.

you only get what you put into it brother
 
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Groucho

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50cents buys NOTHING today. Not shit! You have to spend money to make money. Very very unrealistic. Don't get excited n think it's an inexpensive easy task :)
Grouch
 

blynx

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lets see how much my weed cost me to make,

2x 1kw ballast- $300
2x 1kw hortilux- $180
2x 6" Vortex- $340
2x Super Sun 2- $220
Portable AC- $600
Carbon Filter- $180
Ducting- $50
Reflective Film- $130
Nutes- $200
Doctors Recommendation $200
Clones-$240
EC/PPM Meter- $260
Osc Fans- $50
24 Bucket Multiflow System- $700
B&W Poly+ Tarp Zipper- $50
2 Intermatic Timers- $40
2 10 Ga Ext. Cables- $60
Air Stone- $60
Air Pump- $60
Duct Tape-$20
3 months of electricity bills- $1000

not including other small things i left out like hangers, pest control, etc

Cost me $5000+

(not including my time expense, and risk)


...so much for .50 cents/ounce, good luck growing anything worth smoking with that kind of budget.

you only get what you put into it brother

You are correct about the initial cost, it isn't cheap. BUT, spread that cost out over many harvests and it does go way down.

Maybe not .50/oz, but you also do not buy all the above listed equipment for every new round.

Not to mention that if you set up and used all the equipment listed above, you should be able to pull down about 3-4 pounds every 8-10 weeks or so.

You do not have many continuing costs; electricity, nutes and clones if you choose to buy them.

So after the initial investment, your cost per round is 1200-1400.

If you pulled down 4 lbs, thats 454g * 4 = 1816 grams

So your cost per gram is less than $1.00 per run, ie less than $28 per ounce!

If you did 3 rounds, your equipment cost is less than $1.00 per run; ie less than $28 per ounce! and it keeps going down each future round you run.

So, no it isn't .50/oz but a $56 ounce (and costs goes down each run) is not bad either, and this is using your pricey cali electric prices.

Most people outside cali will find there cost a lot lower per ounce because of lower electric costs.
 
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relief

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I can grow for 50 cents an ounce if I reuse my soil and use the HPS in the sky. All I have to buy is, blood meal, bone meal and molasses all cheaply available at my local feed store. Dont need kelp as I get potassium from molasses (It also replaces cal/mag). I've got plenty of N for compast teas (lots of livestock), but I have to buy guano for flower. I've also used bone meal teas during flower when I had no choice.




This girl here was grown for less than $20 and yielded almost 3 pounds . BUT keep in mind, I've already made my inital investment back on the greenhouse, soil and air pumps (for teas) and I dont have to pay for electricity. I dont have to invest in any of that again. The majority of people dont have the luxury of growing in a greenhouse either, so that has to be taken into account.

I would also like to state, my greenhouse stuff is VERY potent, taste fantastic (like all organics) and covered in frost. I got blazed just from skin contact this harvest. Should have worn gloves. I always get compliments on taste, smell and potency when I grow in a greenhouse.

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relief

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50 cents an ounce can be done by maybe 1% of the population though as most dont have the luxury that I do (greenhouse and privacy). If growing indoors, there no f'ing way it can be done.

I grow indoors every winter and the electricity alone cost me more than 50 cents an ounce.
 

Hydro-Soil

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So after the initial investment, your cost per round is 1200-1400.

If you pulled down 4 lbs, thats 454g * 4 = 1816 grams

So your cost per gram is less than $1.00 per run, ie less than $28 per ounce!

If you did 3 rounds, your equipment cost is less than $1.00 per run; ie less than $28 per ounce! and it keeps going down each future round you run.

So, no it isn't .50/oz but a $56 ounce (and costs goes down each run) is not bad either, and this is using your pricey cali electric prices.

1# As mentioned before, 11 weeks of my time is not free. If I'm running that big of an operation I'd be doing at least $800/week in time. That's $8,800 / 1816 = 4.8$, so you're looking at $134 + $56 = $190.

2# You're not figuring in equipment depreciation. Yes, there are a few things that last nearly forever but there are also a lot of pieces of equipment that need to be replaced. Those costs change for every setup so it's hard to determine. Nothing lasts forever though.

3# I can't tell my neighbor what I'm doing, even though it's perfectly legal. +$50/oz.
 

NorCalFor20

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1# As mentioned before, 11 weeks of my time is not free. If I'm running that big of an operation I'd be doing at least $800/week in time. That's $8,800 / 1816 = 4.8$, so you're looking at $134 + $56 = $190.

2# You're not figuring in equipment depreciation. Yes, there are a few things that last nearly forever but there are also a lot of pieces of equipment that need to be replaced. Those costs change for every setup so it's hard to determine. Nothing lasts forever though.

3# I can't tell my neighbor what I'm doing, even though it's perfectly legal. +$50/oz.

Right on K+

Speaking of time im off to do a res change and start flushing *clocks in* be back in 2-3 hrs....
 

blynx

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1# As mentioned before, 11 weeks of my time is not free. If I'm running that big of an operation I'd be doing at least $800/week in time. That's $8,800 / 1816 = 4.8$, so you're looking at $134 + $56 = $190.

2# You're not figuring in equipment depreciation. Yes, there are a few things that last nearly forever but there are also a lot of pieces of equipment that need to be replaced. Those costs change for every setup so it's hard to determine. Nothing lasts forever though.

3# I can't tell my neighbor what I'm doing, even though it's perfectly legal. +$50/oz.

#1. Your time is free if you are not selling it and it's a cost of business of you are.

#1b. that's one hell of a wage you are paying yourself for your time to grow mj; ~$20/hr to make $40k in wages

#3? I don't understand the I can't tell my neighbor what I'm doing so I have to bump the price up $50/oz?!?!
 
T

theratings

Well the topic was simply to help the guy find the Dr.Bud post. Dr.Bud pretty much runs his own style with a strain he made, so his calculations are different of course. 50 cents an oz isn't the figure for everyone or most grows at all, but it may be the figure for Dr.Bud with his style and his strain. I've seen people on here who break it down for the cost to grow per gram/oz/whatever with their respective systems and it's an interesting analysis of their cost to produce.
 

Jnugg

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Veteran
You are correct about the initial cost, it isn't cheap. BUT, spread that cost out over many harvests and it does go way down.

Maybe not .50/oz, but you also do not buy all the above listed equipment for every new round.

Not to mention that if you set up and used all the equipment listed above, you should be able to pull down about 3-4 pounds every 8-10 weeks or so.

You do not have many continuing costs; electricity, nutes and clones if you choose to buy them.

So after the initial investment, your cost per round is 1200-1400.

If you pulled down 4 lbs, thats 454g * 4 = 1816 grams

So your cost per gram is less than $1.00 per run, ie less than $28 per ounce!

If you did 3 rounds, your equipment cost is less than $1.00 per run; ie less than $28 per ounce! and it keeps going down each future round you run.

So, no it isn't .50/oz but a $56 ounce (and costs goes down each run) is not bad either, and this is using your pricey cali electric prices.

Most people outside cali will find there cost a lot lower per ounce because of lower electric costs.


I was waiting for someone to post that...I agree whole heartedly...I don't know about electricity costs in Cali but where I am it is only 0.05197 cents/kwh for the first 1000kwh's and then 0.06197 cents/kwh for every 1000kwh's after that...atleast that's what it says on the bill....which is pretty damn cheap IMO.
 

geopolitical

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I'm a cheap surplus using bastard. We actually sat down and did the household budget. I will not count my time as I know it's worthless (hey, once you retire it's all worthless).

Our total including electricity and all our inputs we knick out at about $20/ounce all things considered which works out to around $320 a pound.
 

oldgrayhair

Member
I'm a cheap surplus using bastard. We actually sat down and did the household budget. I will not count my time as I know it's worthless (hey, once you retire it's all worthless).

Our total including electricity and all our inputs we knick out at about $20/ounce all things considered which works out to around $320 a pound.

That sounds good, but upping it to $420 just sounds better :joint:
 
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