simple green
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Just wondering what we're doing here...
coco users only please
coco users only please
Who is aerating their res?
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i used to but i was using floranova and molasses and it used to go all funky and ferment so i stopped
but i'm not using them anymore and i'm considering it again
but i'm not using them anymore and i'm considering it again
p1ninja
Member
Absolutely my friend! Would not go without it! With watering twice daily, my coco stays pretty moist, the additional oxygen that the aerating provides is priceless...
I know people say, let it dry in between feedings, but dry coco makes for significantly less nutrient absorbtion.
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I know people say, let it dry in between feedings, but dry coco makes for significantly less nutrient absorbtion.
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wspcolorado
Member
I just made me first batch of nutes today using the air stone. Hoping the extra oxygen is liked by the plants
stoneypenguin
Member
Ive heard that airstones are good for adding oxygen to the water. Whenever I use one though my PH shoots up overnight and I always end up adding a ton of PH down to keep it around 6. I just let it go without one now and it drifts up a lot slower.
i cant believe people are growing without aerating there rez... Very strang IMHO
CuZZn BooBerry
Member
I use GH nutes and water, IMHO i cant imagine my results being any better by aerating. 
stoneypenguin
Member
Do you guys have any issues with your PH rising? Do you have your airstone on 24/7 or just before you feed?
wspcolorado
Member
Stoney, I notice my ph jumps from time to time when moving the reader around in the water especially near the airstone. Not sure what to make of this..
However its minor .1 or so, maybe its something being brought to the surface. I just make a batch each time I go so I dont run the airstone until I make the res then I wheel it over and feed
However its minor .1 or so, maybe its something being brought to the surface. I just make a batch each time I go so I dont run the airstone until I make the res then I wheel it over and feed
I run a stone 24/7 and my ph is solid drifts alittle after 4-5 days but only a couple points.... my guess is your ph jump because you nutes are not fully mixed.... so putting in the stone mixes your nutes and your water up and changed your ph.... wait a bit let you ph settle then ph down your mix to the ph you want... maybe my nutes or whatever but big ph drifts can be because of fungi and or algae.... good luck
I aerate 24/7.. after the PH stabilizes.. which takes 10 minutes at most; I can hold it within 1 tenth of a point over a week period.
The reason why you see PH fluxuations is because you're displacing CO2 build up in the water. I hand water but I keep 2 5 gallon buckets filled with nute solution and aerated 24/7. I keep the lids on top of the buckets but not pressed down so it can still gas out. This prevents CO2 of the natural environment or tank/generator from landing on the water surface; in addition your bucket can outgas while taking in fresh air. I find this keeps my PH stable as can be.
I also use a pump to keep the nutrient solution churning so it's always well mixed. This gives me an even PH throughout the resevoir.
SC_KillaKali
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Ive only been using coco for about a month but I dont aerate the res but I might run a comparison too see if theres any benefit.
i hand water from the top with a beer cup. my 'res' is a pail with 2 gallons of mix in it. before i water, i scoop the nute mix out and pour it back in a few times. puts as much dissolved oxygen in it as bubbling but without the pump.
it doesn't have to be bubbling to be aerated. waterfalls work even better than bubbles.
the dissolved oxygen doesn't get into the water by the bubble going through the water in the bucket - it gets into the water when the bubble bursts on the surface. science - it works, bitches!
it doesn't have to be bubbling to be aerated. waterfalls work even better than bubbles.
the dissolved oxygen doesn't get into the water by the bubble going through the water in the bucket - it gets into the water when the bubble bursts on the surface. science - it works, bitches!
Yep, always have, always will. Each of my two 115g reservoirs has:
3 big airstones and roughly 55 liters per minute of air
4 800gph water pumps for trays
1 250gph pump for circulation
1 float valve for topoffs
Drain valve
Overflow valve (teed into drain line after shutoff valve)
Dry floors, an oxygenated and full reservoir and I'm a happy lazyman!
3 big airstones and roughly 55 liters per minute of air
4 800gph water pumps for trays
1 250gph pump for circulation
1 float valve for topoffs
Drain valve
Overflow valve (teed into drain line after shutoff valve)
Dry floors, an oxygenated and full reservoir and I'm a happy lazyman!
Indeed!!! Waterfalling is superior to bubbling for those with a recirculating system or for those who aren't lazy sob's like me
. And it's important that everyone understands that dissolved oxygen in the water occurs from surface agitation. In waterfall setups some dissolved oxygen is trapped on the way back down to the res as well.For people who mix in gallon jugs; you're doing the exact same thing when you shake the entire jug just go get it mixed. Just make sure to fill the jug all the way so you have enough room/air to mix the water.
Good post Wait What.. you don't have to spend money to aerate your res
C
Carl Carlson
The rate of increase in pH as dissolved oxygen is added to the reservoir and vice versa is directly related to the alkalinity (buffering capacity) and temperature of the water.
There are many websites that attempt to explain alkalinity, but I think this is one of the best:
It's been known that dissolved oxygen levels have a significant positive correlation with carbonate alkalinity.
The amount of dissolved oxygen in the water is also correlated to the temperature.
(minimal acceptance level line is for fish, ignore it)
The devices that we use to aerate are limited in their ability to produce dissolved oxygen. A 2' waterfall is much better than a 1' waterfall and a pump with a venturi is supposed to be better than a waterfall. This is another chart from koi pond enthusiasts:
There are many websites that attempt to explain alkalinity, but I think this is one of the best:
It's been known that dissolved oxygen levels have a significant positive correlation with carbonate alkalinity.
The amount of dissolved oxygen in the water is also correlated to the temperature.
(minimal acceptance level line is for fish, ignore it)
The devices that we use to aerate are limited in their ability to produce dissolved oxygen. A 2' waterfall is much better than a 1' waterfall and a pump with a venturi is supposed to be better than a waterfall. This is another chart from koi pond enthusiasts:
I aerate my water for sure. It helps get rid of chlorine in your tank. Plus my bubbler works wonders for cloning so it must be good for roots?? Just a thought. But ya roots need air that's one of the big arguements for coco which i don't use. And some people sware by smartpots which also help get air to roots. I don't know the scientific answer but the common sense one says it is a good idea. We create soil to be more aerated. Sure water only holds so much air, migth as well maximize it. Even spouts for watering have been designed to get more air into the water.
that reminds me. Who uses their dehumidifier water for their res?? My dehumidifier sits on a chair and has a big garbage can where the water drips into. And holy shit when i pour it into my reservoir it is so aerated it hits the tank like how a water fall hits the ground, so airy and bubbly, this water rocks for aeration.
good post carl
one thing to remember guy's, its better to add your ph down before you add nutes to the water, but if your ph is dropping, or raising then it could mean you havent mixed your reservoir enough.
try and find the right amount of ph down. if your res is of a certain size, and you always add the same amount of water/or nutes the amount of ph down you use will be the same.
another thing is if your ph is dropping fast this could be down to your temperature of your water, or how long it sits there for
i like to put oxygen into my water, though with some strains it doesnt make a difference
one thing to remember guy's, its better to add your ph down before you add nutes to the water, but if your ph is dropping, or raising then it could mean you havent mixed your reservoir enough.
try and find the right amount of ph down. if your res is of a certain size, and you always add the same amount of water/or nutes the amount of ph down you use will be the same.
another thing is if your ph is dropping fast this could be down to your temperature of your water, or how long it sits there for
i like to put oxygen into my water, though with some strains it doesnt make a difference
