Dr happy
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thanks for the info
do u mean 2 shelfs = 16 x 3.5 coco pots?
37.5 per plant ...1 600 hps
Happy's vertical coco - run 2 waste - 600w ---StEaLtH---
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thanks for the info
do u mean 2 shelfs = 16 x 3.5 coco pots?
37.5 per plant ...1 600 hps
Hey Dr Happy. I don't think you need a shelf for a 600watt grow, one row of plants is enough. In coco you only need to veg for around 3 weeks and they'll be big enough to use all the light. Also have you considered recirculating your nutes? Saves some money and waste.
Not sure how you'd be able to work a door into the plan but without shelves you can have a removable section of the wall no problem.
might find some tips in here http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=117026 BushDr's posts were very useful for me
Not sure how you'd be able to work a door into the plan but without shelves you can have a removable section of the wall no problem.
might find some tips in here http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=117026 BushDr's posts were very useful for me
Dr happy
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thanks SuperConductor
what is the fimal yeald of BD post ?
in DB setup every pot needs to produce 600w \ 7 pots = 85 !! grams per pot
i think it's harder than 16 pots.
16pots = 35.7 grams per pot
I had 7 plants each with over 3oz on my first try with the set-up, first time in coco too. Easy gram per watt 
They were 7.5litre pots and I was hand watering 1 or 2 times a day, a dripper set-up would be best. Think I vegged that grow for about 3.5 weeks, a bit too much. I aim for 6 plants now too.
To recirculate I collect the run off using trays that pour into a res and pump it back into the reservoir and change the res every week. You need to adjust the ec and ph of the reservoir and top it up with water but apart from that it's simple to do, saves you mixing nutes every day.
They were 7.5litre pots and I was hand watering 1 or 2 times a day, a dripper set-up would be best. Think I vegged that grow for about 3.5 weeks, a bit too much. I aim for 6 plants now too.To recirculate I collect the run off using trays that pour into a res and pump it back into the reservoir and change the res every week. You need to adjust the ec and ph of the reservoir and top it up with water but apart from that it's simple to do, saves you mixing nutes every day.
Dr happy
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I had 7 plants each with over 3oz on my first try with the set-up, first time in coco too. Easy gram per watt
To recirculate I collect the run off using trays that pour into a res and pump it back into the reservoir and change the res every week. You need to adjust the ec and ph of the reservoir and top it up with water but apart from that it's simple to do, saves you mixing nutes every day.
thank u
what was the hight of the plants & what strain did u use?
didn't understand the part with the run off
i think that in the runoff their r unsellable minerals ( for example too much pk - it doesn't build up at the bottom of the pot & just flushes out )
Yes, in coco it's best to aim for a lot of run-off, 20%, so the salts wont build up which avoids the need to flush. Coco can't be overwatered this way. the 2x watering per day replaces oxygen in root zone which leads to very quick growth.
I was using sativa dominant strains so indica strains need a bit longer in veg.
I was using sativa dominant strains so indica strains need a bit longer in veg.
Dr happy
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do u think serious's - chronic will make the job ?
& what was the high of your plants?
i have 260 c"m ... floor - roof
how much space do u think it is optimal to make a floor box for 600w i think a 600w bulb supports 100 s"m (1m)
I think those plants ended up around 1.5m but I vegged too long, this time I've got them around 1m tall which seems about right for one bulb.
Haven't grown chronic but it should work very well, vegging with a horizontal light will get them taller faster. Need a decent bit of height before flowering as they wont stretch much with a vertical bulb.
Haven't grown chronic but it should work very well, vegging with a horizontal light will get them taller faster. Need a decent bit of height before flowering as they wont stretch much with a vertical bulb.
Dr happy
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thank u dear friend
so u say chronic wont stretch to much ?
if i put chronic to flower at 75cm it will end 150 cm ?
Dr happy
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hello all
dear friends i need u to help me...
i have 260 cm total
what is the best way to make a veg shelf flower shelf & carbon filter...
this questaion was asked before. what is better for chronic(S.S) ?
100 cm trees or 2 shelfs ?
4 plants or 16 ?!
help please... i am tired of thinking
dear friends i need u to help me...
i have 260 cm total
what is the best way to make a veg shelf flower shelf & carbon filter...
this questaion was asked before. what is better for chronic(S.S) ?
100 cm trees or 2 shelfs ?
4 plants or 16 ?!
help please... i am tired of thinking
If you can build suitable shelves easily then it would be the best idea as it will cut your veg time in half. If it's not easy to do then just veg a little longer. Shelves make maintainance very difficult unless the walls move somehow.
If you want to fit both veg and flower spaces into your 260cm then you may be better off without shelves. Remember if you want to put flower and veg room in the same space tha heat rises so put the smaller light in the lower space if heat is a problem. If cold is a problem do it the other way round.
Just had a closer look at your design and it looks fine, I take it the veg are is below the 600? I don't think you'll need to use shelves personally but as I say if you can do it easily it may be worth it for the reduction in veg time.
If you want to fit both veg and flower spaces into your 260cm then you may be better off without shelves. Remember if you want to put flower and veg room in the same space tha heat rises so put the smaller light in the lower space if heat is a problem. If cold is a problem do it the other way round.
Just had a closer look at your design and it looks fine, I take it the veg are is below the 600? I don't think you'll need to use shelves personally but as I say if you can do it easily it may be worth it for the reduction in veg time.
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Dr happy
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hello all
sorry for not being here for a long time
( was just reading )
i have a little question
how can i keep clones for about 2 months at the same size ?
i was thinking about taking the clones from the plants which i put into flower
if i keep them in the propagator will it work ?
pics will come soon
sorry for not being here for a long time
( was just reading )
i have a little question
how can i keep clones for about 2 months at the same size ?
i was thinking about taking the clones from the plants which i put into flower
if i keep them in the propagator will it work ?
pics will come soon
Dr happy
Member
Contributed by: Lothar
Keeping your clones in stasis by using your fridge is a handy way to both store them for future use or keep backups should there be some failure with your original cuttings. I have personally kept cuttings up to eight weeks using this method.
Simply put:
1) Take cuttings as you normally would, but with the one addition of leaving a longer stem, as you will be trimming this down further by at least half an inch when it is time to root them.
2) Place cuttings in a Ziploc bag (Tupperware can be used also.)There should be enough water in the bottom of the bag so that the stems are submerged. RO or good quality tap water should be fine. An inch or two should be in the bottom of the bag, keeping the stems wet.
Breathe some air into the bag, mainly so as not to crush the leaves and provide some cushion as they may get bumped about in the crisper drawer.
**Another variation on this is to simply put the cuttings in a water glass or jar (an ice cream bucket works well too -> basically, wide and shallow containers) and have them sit on the shelf in the fridge (stems also in water). This may or may not be convenient or stealthy for you.
3) I would recommend that you replace the air and water in the bag once a week. I have typically not bothered to replace the air or water at all for up to four weeks, but I continually come across this information and it seems like it cant hurt.
4) When you decide it is time to use your cuttings, remove them from the fridge and let them sit with their stems in a glass of water for half an hour or so to warm up as you prepare your cloning materials.
5) Cut half an inch or more off the stem to make a fresh end that you will dip in your favorite rooting hormome or rooting medium. I have found that fridge clones, if let to sit longer than a few weeks, will take longer to root.
This is fine for most since many are buying time with this method anyway. Clones older than 2 weeks will usually begin to root in 10 days and are mostly established by 14 days.
*Be sure that your fridge does not have a tendency to freeze your food. It should be stable. If your clones freeze, they will die. Happy Cloning
Keeping your clones in stasis by using your fridge is a handy way to both store them for future use or keep backups should there be some failure with your original cuttings. I have personally kept cuttings up to eight weeks using this method.
Simply put:
1) Take cuttings as you normally would, but with the one addition of leaving a longer stem, as you will be trimming this down further by at least half an inch when it is time to root them.
2) Place cuttings in a Ziploc bag (Tupperware can be used also.)There should be enough water in the bottom of the bag so that the stems are submerged. RO or good quality tap water should be fine. An inch or two should be in the bottom of the bag, keeping the stems wet.
Breathe some air into the bag, mainly so as not to crush the leaves and provide some cushion as they may get bumped about in the crisper drawer.
**Another variation on this is to simply put the cuttings in a water glass or jar (an ice cream bucket works well too -> basically, wide and shallow containers) and have them sit on the shelf in the fridge (stems also in water). This may or may not be convenient or stealthy for you.
3) I would recommend that you replace the air and water in the bag once a week. I have typically not bothered to replace the air or water at all for up to four weeks, but I continually come across this information and it seems like it cant hurt.
4) When you decide it is time to use your cuttings, remove them from the fridge and let them sit with their stems in a glass of water for half an hour or so to warm up as you prepare your cloning materials.
5) Cut half an inch or more off the stem to make a fresh end that you will dip in your favorite rooting hormome or rooting medium. I have found that fridge clones, if let to sit longer than a few weeks, will take longer to root.
This is fine for most since many are buying time with this method anyway. Clones older than 2 weeks will usually begin to root in 10 days and are mostly established by 14 days.
*Be sure that your fridge does not have a tendency to freeze your food. It should be stable. If your clones freeze, they will die. Happy Cloning
Dr happy
Member
hello again
i was having an exhaust problem 560cfm blower, but no air was going out !
if u use a carbon scrubber u have to wash it in the bathtub !
just put allot of water inside of it and you will see black water coming out- after about 15 minutes the water will be clean
now when i put my hand at the outgoing there is a strong wind blow
pics will be soon
i was having an exhaust problem 560cfm blower, but no air was going out !
if u use a carbon scrubber u have to wash it in the bathtub !
just put allot of water inside of it and you will see black water coming out- after about 15 minutes the water will be clean
now when i put my hand at the outgoing there is a strong wind blow
pics will be soon
Dr happy
Member
some fresh pics
the cuttings are 1 week old in rock-wool slabs
the first floor is were the mother plants are c
all the mother plants are Chronic
3 jack flash cuttings
3 p.p.p cuttings
2 white skunk cuttings
what strain is good for vertical ?
i plan doing 5-10 cuttings per slab
now there are 9 slabs & 12 3.5 litter pots
next round i plan doing 20 -24 slabs (7-8 floors)= (120-240 cuttings )
the cuttings are 1 week old in rock-wool slabs
the first floor is were the mother plants are c
all the mother plants are Chronic
3 jack flash cuttings
3 p.p.p cuttings
2 white skunk cuttings
what strain is good for vertical ?
i plan doing 5-10 cuttings per slab
now there are 9 slabs & 12 3.5 litter pots
next round i plan doing 20 -24 slabs (7-8 floors)= (120-240 cuttings )
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