Best soil to use and where to get it.

[Lazyman]

If you can get it, Canna Bio Terra Plus is about the best I've seen, but it's expensive and you need a Canna dealer to get it. It's basically pre-amended coco, the best grower I know uses it and he usually gets over a gram per watt with buckets of it in an Ebb& Grow. He only adds a little Bokashi compost to it and then feeds with Agricultural Organics nutes. Last run was 11# out of 9X600W, pretty damn good.

 

[Leviathan]

cheffy have u ever grown an mj with coco? why is the easiest way to grow near perfect weed touted as being the hardest?

 

[chef]

Easiest? 9 out 0f 10 I see preachin the coco gospel have never ran anything else! lol
I've seen every trendy muckymuck fad of the last errr.... going on 4 decades.
It works, If you buy all the coco-specific crap to run it pure or others REQUIRED to replace & fix all the screwed up things it does to your soil mix lol

I suggested peat mix starting out for less problems, thats good advice for a noob...period.

Near perfect weed lmfao fuck me twice, my EWC/peat mix will smoke that garbage!

 

[PkRipper]

i like peat outdoor becuase the plants can transfer the ground easier with better results.
indoor i like sunshine with perlit added....and enzymes

 

[Leviathan]

chef i dont wish to speak to u but the board of members

heres my first coco runs ingrediants

1. coco
2. tap water
3. floranovabloom

weres the excess?? how is this complicated?



blah blah hoopidity boop blah-


50% ffof and 50% light warrior seems to get alot of good reviews, plust you wont need to feed your girls for like 3-4 weeks and can just buy some bloom nute if u have left over money .

 

[maryjohn]

Ignore the troll.

 

[chef]

It proves #1 plants can grow in coco & almost anything else & #2 you didn't kill it lol

Please, wheres all this near perfect weed at?

 

[vonforne]

Ignore the troll.

LOL ya that is what I was thinking. Anyhooooo, coco is a great ADDITIVE to our peat grows. I find it help with the CEC. And BTW....I have no problems and run it mixed to50% peat and 50% coco and my organic additives.........no cal\mg problems but I have only been growing for a couple of months. LOL

V

 

[maryjohn]

Von where can I find your recipe?

 

[vonforne]

50% Bio Nova coco
50% Peat
20% EWC
20% compost
2 TBS powdered dolomit lime (1\2 powdered lime and 1\2 pelleted lime)
Mix in clay gravel to your liking
PSG @ 2 TBS per 3.75 liters
P guano @ 1 TBS per 3.75 liters
Glacial rock dust
Rock dust
Algen Kalk (calcium derived from Seaweed
Hornspäne (horn chips)
Horn meal
The last 2 were mixéd with one of my guanos ( I have 3 different ones for N source)

And compost teas with EWC and Seaweed extract and let sit for months.

All items were bought at my local garden centers. Except the Seaweed extract. And when I find a source locally for that I will buy it there instead.

I could use a couple more things like Leonardite but have not found any yet so I use a liquid form @ 7% right now. Just have to water more often with it.

BUT as long as my plants finish health and clean......well I am not one to complain too much.

V

 

[chef]

You coco evangelists all remind me of Vince from Shamwow! lol

 

[ShamelessJames]

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[ShamelessJames]

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[VerdantGreen]

i know what you mean SJ

but nearly all my ingredients are old-school organic stuff.

for flowering -

3 parts peat
2 parts topsoil
3 parts perlite
1 part mushroom compost
1 part wormcasts

dolomite lime 5g/litre
N guano - 5g/litre
P guano - 10g/litre (5g/litre for veg)
Rock phosphate 5g/l
rock potash 5g/l
seaweed meal 5g/l

then if it is a sativa i add 2litre of coco to every 10 litres of mix to make it more fluffy and some hoof&horn at 2.5g/litre to give a small amount of slow release N for plants that take longer than 12 weeks to flower.

complicated but it works so well i'm afraid to change it - and when i have changed it i've regretted it.

V.

 

[maryjohn]

hey verdant do you know why sativa needs more drainage?

 

[vonforne]

hey verdant do you know why sativa needs more drainage?

Sativas are tropic. Their roots grow across the top of the soil. Next time you grow one try a poke a stick through the soil at about 3 weeks into flower and see how difficult that is.


An indicas roots grow deeper.


V

 

[maryjohn]

wow this whole actually knowing what you are growing thing is awesome! thanks von! all those years of bagseed, and spawn of bagseed were great, but this is the real deal, if a bit expensive on the seeds.

I have a mental image of stacked shallow sativa trays, with the plants trained over the side.

and for companion planting this changes everything. it would do well with squashes! or carrots! YES! carrots! the light soil would give you nice carrots.

dare I ask about hybrids? can you tell by the foliage what the roots will be like?

 

[somebody041]

i agree with maryjohn...

von the info you've shared in this thread is great. thanks!

 

[VerdantGreen]

yeah sativas like a light airy soil or the roots dont penetrate it properly. they also like much less water so the extra drainage will help too

what jay says about shallow roots is interesting too...

when growing sats look for the edges of the leaf pointing upwards - this means they are too wet (they are trying to transpire that extra water)

V.

 

[vonforne]

yeah sativas like a light airy soil or the roots dont penetrate it properly. they also like much less water so the extra drainage will help too

what jay says about shallow roots is interesting too...

when growing sats look for the edges of the leaf pointing upwards - this means they are too wet (they are trying to transpire that extra water)

V.

Thanks for that V-I am getting ready to run some SSH, I like little pointers like that.

V