A real non-profit dispensary to compete

[MrGreen]

Which opens up the door for someone to undercut you and drive you out of business. Thats how capitalism works. If you don't like it shop at mom and pop places. I am in a city and they still exist even here.

The barriers to entry are too great in almost every industry today. Try and see if you can compete with Geico or Costco.

This country is not set up so that anybody can make it, and I'm sorry if you believe that lie.

Anyways, the thought of a non-profit dispensary is awesome, but people are greedy. I think the farmer's markets or collectives are definitely the best way to go, but security is an issues until we have real progress towards legalization.

 

[zenoonez]

The barriers to entry are too great in almost every industry today. Try and see if you can compete with Geico or Costco.

This country is not set up so that anybody can make it, and I'm sorry if you believe that lie.

Anyways, the thought of a non-profit dispensary is awesome, but people are greedy. I think the farmer's markets or collectives are definitely the best way to go, but security is an issues until we have real progress towards legalization.

Only exceptional people will make it period. You can say that you can't make it all you want and that is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you have the capital and the idea/product go for it. You may fail but you may also succeed. Obviously competing with comcast is going to be difficult because they own the infrastructure. In my area they own the fiber optic lines. However, that doesn't mean that a person with enough capital can't make a go of it and ask the city for permission to run its own fiber optic lines and undercut comcast's price. Again, there will be thousands who fail to break the monopolies because of hurdles and hoops you have to jump through but they do make it from time to time. Being greedy is not a bad thing. For someone arguing that our country isn't setup to allow competition you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Greed is what makes people succeed and if there were no financial incentive to open a dispensary there would be very few of them in existence. Furthermore, collectives and coops can be run for profit in the same way that dispensaries are.

 

[Pythagllio]

"wah, wah, I can't compete!" <---mating call of the pathetic loser.

Every year successful new companies are started. Google, Ebay, the list goes on. Every year people prove that the bullshit above is wrong. All I can figure is that people who don't have the talent use this to explain to themselves why others succeed, and they fail, without admitting the actual fact that they're pathetic losers.

Can't compete with Geico eh? The guy who owns the company that owns Geico started out with $5000 just over 50 years ago. How in the world did he do it? Oh right, he got lucky! The game was rigged! He bribed the gov't! The list of reasons the pathetic loser gives to salve his self esteem seem to never include the fact that he had the talent, and put in the work needed.

 

[ourcee]

sometimes you just gotta be in the right place at the right time though....

 

[MrGreen]

NM, this thread has gotten way off-topic.

Hopefully when I get my operation running I'll be able to contribute to those less-fortunate than me. If everybody gave 10% of their harvest to somebody who REALLY needed it, there would be a lot less people hurting in this world.

 

[Ipsissimus]

Capitalism has been wildly successful. However, our government, and other parties that regulate the capitalistic market, have become little more than another private enterprise. By catering to the highest bidder, the game has become fixed to serve their interests.

Democracy and capitalism should exist separately, in theory. I would argue our government keeps up the facade of being democratic because it is the most effective form of social control - make the people think their interests are being represented. If the government was directly influenced by wealth, than it would be 90% controlled by 1% of the populace.

I would love to see the wealth distribution ratios graphed over time. I would bet the ranch that the top 1% has never even come close to owning 90% of the wealth, except in recent years in America. My point is that some pitfalls of our system are cropping up.

Note: I never said life isn't fair, or that I should get a hand out, or even that we should take wealth and redistribute it. Resorting to name calling when someone notices some issues with the current system is sure sign of a someone who is buying into the self esteem that the capitalism system is selling in the form of knee-jerk patriotism.

 

[PharmaCan]

Can't compete with Geico eh? The guy who owns the company that owns Geico started out with $5000 just over 50 years ago.

Uh, Geico is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, the Warren Buffett company. And, just to give your comment a little more relevance, a house that cost $5,000 in 1959 is worth about $500,000 today.

PC

 

[Blue Dot]

I just don't understand why Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are used as examples that Capitalism works?

They are clearly exceptions to the rule. For every bill gates there 100,000's companies that don't succeed.

To use a few notable exceptions as a basis while disregarding the other overwhelmingly failures is just silly.

Capitalism is very akin to evolution. The strong survive and the weak die. Why should a society's economic system be lowered to the most primative of models? If humans are so intelligent, shouldn't we be able to come up with a better system then that?

 

[Pythagllio]

In my post above Mssrs Buffet and Gates were used as examples to discredit the nonsense claim that the '1%ers' are trust fund babies. My some people have very short attention spans.

Nice straw man argument, present capitalism as a 'primitive model', and then ask the question about coming up with a better system based on that premise as if it were actually true. You really love your straw menn, don't you? When you have some ideas that might work...oh well, never mind that's not going to happen.

 

[Pythagllio]

Uh, Geico is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, the Warren Buffett company. And, just to give your comment a little more relevance, a house that cost $5,000 in 1959 is worth about $500,000 today.

PC

Yeah, maybe in the Bay area, but in most parts of the US that's hogwash. You can buy a home in the suburbs of Louisville in a nice neighborhood on a nice piece of land for <$100k. Anyway, $5000 1959 dollars in constant 2009 dollars is $31,404.83

http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Consumer_Price_Index/HistoricalCPI.aspx?rsCPI_currentPage=0

CPI Jan 1959 = 29, CPI Jan 2009 =211.08 an increase of 627.8621%. $5000 * 6.278621 = 31,404.83

Yes, Geico is owned by Berkshire, and their CEO Mr. Buffet started his business with $5000 in 1959.

 

[zenoonez]

I just don't understand why Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are used as examples that Capitalism works?

They are clearly exceptions to the rule. For every bill gates there 100,000's companies that don't succeed.

To use a few notable exceptions as a basis while disregarding the other overwhelmingly failures is just silly.

Capitalism is very akin to evolution. The strong survive and the weak die. Why should a society's economic system be lowered to the most primative of models? If humans are so intelligent, shouldn't we be able to come up with a better system then that?

LOL. Whats wrong with being primitive? I love hunting, fishing, and farming, does that make me primitive? Why is that a bad thing? If everyone made it as huge businessman who would work in the grocery stores and restaurants? Furthermore, you will only ever know the exceptions to the rule because that is what life is like. People are unwilling to leave the comfort of their situations to strike out to build their own businesses. It is a hard thing to do because you have to differentiate yourself from your competitors by the product or service you provide. You want an easy industry to get into? Go into banking.

 

[Sir_Nugget]

this thread went so off topic, what he hell r u guys talking about

 

[Don Juan]

imagine a non-profit open to the general public - health insurance company, car insurance, etc...you'd think it would quickly take over the market. maybe they would, perhaps no one has effectively executed it??? Anyone with some real knowledge of this disparity?

Haha...yeah, great thought! It really is.

 

[Don Juan]

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[Pythagllio]

Profits are not limited to dollars and cents. Civil servants/bureaucrats trade administrative power as a currency. Something the anti-capitalists miss...they could do away with money and commodity trading and there will still be people making profits.

 

[Don Juan]

Haha..yes, they thrive off the power as a ready substitute for money. There's a link happening here, no doubt about it.