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Has this been debunked ? Or just properly timed Propaganda.

Mrgrowem

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Marijuana Damages DNA And May Cause Cancer, New Test Reveals

ScienceDaily (June 15, 2009) — Using a highly sensitive new test, scientists in Europe are reporting "convincing evidence" that marijuana smoke damages the genetic material DNA in ways that could increase the risk of cancer.

Researchers note that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. However, there has been uncertainty over whether marijuana smoke has the same effect. Scientists are especially concerned about the toxicity of acetaldehyde, present in both tobacco and marijuana. However, it has been difficult to measure DNA damage from acetaldehyde with conventional tests.

The research was carried out by Rajinder Singh, Jatinderpal Sandhu, Balvinder Kaur, Tina Juren, William P. Steward, Dan Segerback and Peter B. Farmer from the Cancer Biomarkers and Prevention Group, Department of Cancer Studies and Molecular Medicine and Karolinska Institute, Sweden.

Raj Singh said: “Parts of the plant Cannabis sativa, also known as marijuana, ganja, and various street names, are commonly smoked as a recreational drug, although its use for such purposes is illegal in many countries.

The scientists describe development and use of a modified mass spectrometry method that showed clear indications that marijuana smoke damages DNA.

“There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke. It is known that tobacco smoke contains 4000 chemicals of which 60 are classed as carcinogens. Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied. It is less combustible than tobacco and is often mixed with tobacco in use. Cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. However, because of its lower combustibility it contains 50% more carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons including naphthalene, benzanthracene, and benzopyrene, than tobacco smoke.”

The authors added: “It is well known that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. Scientists were unsure though whether cannabis smoke would have the same effect. Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”

The researchers add that the ability of cannabis smoke to damage DNA has significant human health implications especially as users tend to inhale more deeply than cigarette smokers, which increases respiratory burden. "The smoking of 3-4 cannabis cigarettes a day is associated with the same degree of damage to bronchial mucus membranes as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day," the team adds.

"In conclusion, these results provide evidence for the DNA damaging potential of cannabis [marijuana] smoke, implying that the consumption of cannabis cigarettes may be detrimental to human health with the possibility to initiate cancer development," the article states. "The data obtained from this study suggesting the DNA damaging potential of cannabis smoke highlight the need for stringent regulation of the consumption of cannabis cigarettes, thus limiting the development of adverse health effects such as cancer."
 
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numerous studies have shown that cannabis helps prevent, slow down and even kill cancer
weed has been demonized and will always be an easy target when politicians have nothing else to turn against
 

PharmaCan

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Our research has focused on the toxicity of acetaldehyde, which is present in both tobacco and cannabis.”

But what they are ignoring is how those 60 cannabinoids and 340 other substances in mj might mitigate the damaging effects of acetaldehyde.

This is just more propaganda. The UCLA study showed that mj use resulted in reduced lung cancer occurrence. The chemicals in mj can't be analyzed for effect just by looking at what they do in tobacco smoke. Clinical trials are needed to determine how mj acts on the human body as a whole.

PC
 
A little from column A, a little from column B.

This study isn't very hard to believe, it shouldn't be very earth shattering either though. The plants cannabis and tobacco are more similar than they are different. Combustion of most any plant, I can only assume, produces a lot of common chemicals, carcinogens among them.

Who ever expected cannabis to come back clean? Its sortof an interesting comparison. I wonder which side the battle between the humidifier and the dehumidifier actually winds up on.
 

Kizzattack

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Tobacco is harmful due to the chemicals used to produce it. Synthetic nutrients are more responsible for the harmful effects of tobacco and cannabis than the plants themselves.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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Studies which simply put together gathered statistics have shown no statistical increase in cancer rates among heavy marijuana smokers, and if I remember correctly, a 50x increase in cancer rates for heavy tobacco smokers. I'll try to find the study, I think i've posted it up on site before, but it has been a couple of years.

The important point was, though, that regardless of experiments or studies which show ways which smoking marijuana could act to increase cancer rates, statistics show that smoking marijuana does not actually increase cancer rates.
 

PharmaCan

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Studies which simply put together gathered statistics have shown no statistical increase in cancer rates among heavy marijuana smokers, and if I remember correctly, a 50x increase in cancer rates for heavy tobacco smokers. I'll try to find the study, I think i've posted it up on site before, but it has been a couple of years.

The important point was, though, that regardless of experiments or studies which show ways which smoking marijuana could act to increase cancer rates, statistics show that smoking marijuana does not actually increase cancer rates.

Dammit, don't bother them with facts, they have a drug war to wage!

PC
 

danut

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There might be negative effects from long term exposure to large amounts of marijuana.

But cancer isn't one of them.

A Dr. Tashkin (sp?) reported in the Harvard Medical Journal the same kind of "study." He looked at the single items found in the smoke, noted that these items caused cancer and concluded that marijuana causes cancer.

Later Dr. Tashkin published a second report in the same medical journal that was a retraction of his first study.

In his second study Dr. Tashkin looked for the people that had dies as a result of marijuana consumption. He noted, by doing a population study, that there was a slightly lower number of deaths, by smoke induced cancer, in the population that smoked marijuana.

Dr. Tashkin is now a supporter of changing the legal status of marijuana.
 

CANNACO-OP

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i am not taking any claim to any study that says tobacco and mj are mixed together for useage....20+ years and never have done that, thought of that, heard of anyone doing that...... have they tested home grown tobacoo with out all the additives are there studies on that? overall think it is probably poorly timed propoganda....it's too late...
 

Babbabud

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So where are all the cancer patients from the kids that grew up on MJ since the 60's ?
 
. However, it has been difficult to measure DNA damage from acetaldehyde with conventional tests.
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ok, so am i the only one that sees a lack of "facts" here? DNA damage=cancer? thats a big step.

The scientists describe development and use of a modified mass spectrometry method that showed clear indications that marijuana smoke damages DNA.

wait, so they modified a scientific test...for what reason?

“There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke. It is known that tobacco smoke contains 4000 chemicals of which 60 are classed as carcinogens. Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied. It is less combustible than tobacco and is often mixed with tobacco in use. Cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. ”

does anyone else find it hard to believe cannabis and tobacco both have the exact same # of compounds?

"The smoking of 3-4 cannabis cigarettes a day is associated with the same degree of damage to bronchial mucus membranes as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day," the team adds.

again with bronchial damamge...thats not cancer you twats.

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dougebfresh

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Oh Yeah.. Lung cancer is caused by dust, asbestos, radon gas, possibly viruses, coal dust, wood dust, cement dust, long term exposure to these things will degrade your health much much faster than long term weed smoking.. ciggarrette smoking on the other hand may be extremely dangerous because of the additives that the government knows about and won't stop... these false claims about weed smoke are just another way to try and stop further medical marijuana legislation..
 

dougebfresh

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“There have been many studies on the toxicity of tobacco smoke. It is known that tobacco smoke contains 4000 chemicals of which 60 are classed as carcinogens. Cannabis in contrast has not been so well studied. It is less combustible than tobacco and is often mixed with tobacco in use. Cannabis smoke contains 400 compounds including 60 cannabinoids. ”

does anyone else find it hard to believe cannabis and tobacco both have the exact same # of compounds?


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according to what you wrote they dont have the same number... in fact tobacco has 3600 more chemicals, most of which are probably added by the tabacco companies aka the government for population control
 
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