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Small Storage Cab Transformed - first micro grow

nnep

Member
First time here, hello everyone. I recently came upon some seeds and too much time on my hand so i took up this beautiful, beautiful hobby. I transformed a former small utility cabinet you can get at any home retailer, the kind with pegged adjustable shelves into my first micro grow cab. I planned to get feedback on this micro-grow setup, but i've also decided to detail my first grow extremely well for anybody like me out there who is considering starting themselves. Please follow along and feel free to offer advice and watch my beauties grow into strong independent women!

Chapter 1 - Supplies and Construction
Chapter 2 - We begin! Intro and Strategy.
Chapter 3 - And We're Off!
Chapter 4 - Adding Sisters

Supplies and Construction

Meet my Cabinet, dimensions approx 15"x15"x30"
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I found this on the side of the road, 1/3 of the back was destroyed but it was in beautiful condition otherwise. It's about perfect for small, bushy indica grows. I originally planned to grow 2 plants with tons of growth room, but i've decided I can get about 4 mid-sized to large square planters in there with ease. The inside is all matte white which means i don't have to paint it or mess with foil/mylar and it has adjustable pegs that fit into holes which run vertically up all 4 corners of the cabinet. This means i don't have to mess with an adjustable lightning system, which is great as a noobie with limited electrical knowledge and using CFLs.

Next I was off to buy a few fixtures, as stated above i decided to go with CFLs, I've seen tremendous results with CFLs and who am i kidding, this is more of an experiment and hobby than an operation. By all means don't think you need to run out and buy a fancy HID system for your first grow, you're bound to make mistakes, make mistakes on cheap equipment!

My first choice were the flimsy light duty desk clamp lights, these actually worked quite well and could adjust easy, however in the end they were too much trouble and a little too light duty. I then decided to go with medium duty utility sockets with dual socket splitters. Drilled some holes in the top with just enough to hold the thickest part of the socket on the top and let the actual bulbs hang down. This allowed me a tiny bit of wiggle room to adjust the lights if needed. I used a 1 1/2" drill bit to achieve this.

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Ventilation, everyone needs it! I decided again, as my first time, to go the little bit more expensive route instead of messing with splicing, (which i broke down and did later) so i went over to my good friend ebay and found two lovely 70cfm electrical cabinet fans for exhaust and airflow. Anything more is overkill for my cabinet. I mounted these both on the bottom and top left, i choose these positions because it gave me the best airflow/pressure system with the top back of the cabinet damaged and left open. I anchored them in there, hit them with some great stuff then taped them up to make sure they didn't go anywhere.

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After monitoring the temps for a bit I found a large heat pocket next to a cluster of my CFLs. I decided to combat this with a ducted exhaust. First i suspended the duct, secured it with the bungee cord and ported it though the damaged back half for an easy diy exhaust duct. I spliced an old CPU fan and taped it right up with an old portable fan 3v AC adapter. This worked like a charm and Voila! A fully adjustable cabinet with mounted lights, a perfect temperature/humidity level crow cab for about 100 bucks (minus the actual cabinet itself).

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Total Supplies and Prices (will keep updated):

-Cabinet (free in my case) $40
-5x Corded Utility Sockets $25
-5x "Y" Adapters $8
-2x Cabinet Fans $25
-1x 4"x5' flex Duct $5
-1x Old CPU fan (free in my cae) $4
-2x 6 pack CFLs 6400k $12
-1x Mech. Timer $12
-2x Power Strips (everyone has these laying around) $15

Total: approx $145~ investment
Wattage: 260Watt

Future Updates 9/27
I love the internet! I found these perfect 14x14" grids that will be perfect to replace my big clunky pieces of wood for shelves, and will allow airflow to be unrestricted.

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2 for 3 bucks! Not bad at all! I also plan to replace my old CPU fan with a 140~ CFM high output fan.
 

festivus

STAY TOASTY MY FRIENDS!
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Hey nnep, good start so far. Curious to see what kind of yield you get with cfl's. My cfl grows had an average yield, but with less heat issues. Good Luck!
 

nnep

Member
It's about the first week under light and the plant is growing beautifuly, it really took off after i moved it righ tunder the light and stacked some books.

My question to you more experienced growers is what other modifications can i make to improve this extremely basic setup? Airflow/Temp is good, perhaps more lights, different lights? I'd love to hear how i can make this more advanced. Do you think i could get away with MH/HPS with that little room?
 

frenzied

New member
Very nice cabinet mate hopefully i may build my one soon once i get it all planned out :D i looked at lowes store today after someone recommended it to me how would i get them sockets u have the split ones for the cfls if i dont not live in america or where ever its located do they send in mail to other countries?

i hope u have a gd grow ill be watching to get find any extra hints and such for cabinet grows and to see how well ur system builds these plants :D
 

nnep

Member
Info and Strategy

Due to a blunder on my part :wallbash:, I'm only about 60% what strain i'm actually growing at the moment. I started with two seeds, a pure NL strain given to me by a friend and a bagseed. I plopped them both in the same cup before i could specify which was which, and before i knew it both had sprouted. Sadly only 1 made it, i'm guessing it's the NL but i can't be for sure. My general strategy is more experimental than maximum growth, as this is a first time experience i want to actually make mistakes and get my hands dirty so to speak. I plan to eventually convert this into a small Scrog cabinet eventually when my other plants begin to bloom. My current light schedule from sprout has been 18-6 and the plant is loving it. I just recently recieved my Auto-AK47/LR#2s and plan to sprout those immediately and add them to my cabinet. I will then convert to 20/4 and do my best to maintain my NL while my LRs catch up. Then eventually i plan to 12/12 both which will be a bit experimental since LRs typically don't get that much period of darkness.

My arsenal of tools at the moment includes:

-1 bag of Fox Farms Ocean Forest Soil
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-General Hydroponics Flora Series 3part Liquid Nutes
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-1 spray bottle with carbonated water for spritzing leaves
-1 small heating pads to assist seed germ
-1 ph/moisture/light gauge
 

nnep

Member
And We're Off!


Week 1: After having devastating results with the ole' papertowel method (roots didn't want to let go of papertowel), I plopped my remaining seeds in some room temperature filtered water i let sit over night. Not even 4 hours later the seeds would sink with the touch of a finger. 24 hours later each had sprouted their tap root. I then prepared my cups with soil, cut some holes for drainage and burried each bean about 3/4" into the soil, and gave it a good soaking, letting the soil cover the seed. I then put them back on my heating pad in a dark place and waited for the sprout. About 2 days later i had a tiny sproutling! :woohoo:

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The other mystery plant sadly never made it to sprout, thus why i'm betting my current plant is my NL because it was a pretty beat bagseed. Godspeed little dead seedling :(. After seeing green i immediately put it under my lights. Since i don't have my ideal setup at the moment i had to stack some books to bring my lovely lady up to decent light level.

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I began nutes early as the little gal' was showing enormous spurts of growth. This can be very dangerous for such a young plant, but once again, this is a very experimental grow. I started with a 1/3 power solution recommended for a seedling/sprout. So basically i gave even less than recommended. The plant absolutely loved it and has doubled in growth almost every day it seems. Thus far there has been no sign of any discoloration of the leaves or any signs of any deficiency or nute lockout.

Week 2: Growth has continued to increase!
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She was barely over a week old in this picture, leaves look good, still no signs of deficiencies, i couldn't be happier. I've given her the same strength solution about 6 days apart from the last, i soon plan to up the dose to normal level for general use 2-2-2 maybe? I'm not 100% on that i'll have to check.

Recent Growth:

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I have noticed a weird whiteish/brownish almost coating on the stem however, does this look like anything to be concerned about?
 

ScrubNinja

Grow like nobody is watching
Veteran
Speaking of which, i'd love to hear others methods for connecting ductwork to cpu fans.

Very nice work. I wedge a 120mm fan into 150mm round ducting. They fit inside very snug. You can also buy, or make yourself, a simple adaptor out of a flat piece of plastic or metal.

 

nnep

Member
healthy healthy! what kind of nutes are you planning on using?

I'm using General Hydroponics 3part nutes, i've already started early. I mixed a 1/3 solution and the plant is loving it. I'll probably go full strength in a week or so.
 

nnep

Member
be carefull, how young is the seedling? :joint:

The plant is about 2 weeks old. I'm planning on going to the general use level which is a little less strong than pure veg. I'm too lasy to check the numbers but if you're interested i will.

also when it comes to flushing, how much more water do you give vs normal watering?
 

riskofwater

Member
well for future reference, if you wanted to you could go roughly 3 weeks from seed without any nutes. just water will be enough to supply it. as far as flushing goes your going to want to see a good percentage of water drain at every watering. you could flush your plants in a bathtub and it will make things easy for ya.:joint::joint: happy growing!
 

Fuzz420

Ganja Smoker Extraordinaire
Veteran
Looks like your off to a good start

well for future reference, if you wanted to you could go roughly 3 weeks from seed without any nutes. just water will be enough to supply it. as far as flushing goes your going to want to see a good percentage of water drain at every watering. you could flush your plants in a bathtub and it will make things easy for ya.:joint::joint: happy growing!

That foxfarm is strong stuff, this is also the method i use about 3 weeks from seed wit no nutes just water.
 

nnep

Member
Adding Sisters

After receiving my new beans in the mail sat 9/26 (3 AF AK47xLR and 1 LA Woman), they're already ready to be planted! In the chamber they go! Soon, hopefully, my garden will actually be a garden!

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I used the ole drop in filtered room temp water method, and it's been good to me thus far. I explained early that i'm a little hesitant to go back to the papertowel method as the roots growing into the material has got me once. I then put my seeds in each respective mug onto a heating pad and check on them a few times a day until they've sprouted, nothing more nothing less! When they're ready to go i take my soil, put my babies in a decent side container about 3/4" burried and let the soil cover them up with a good soaking. Then it's into the chamber where they'll go big and strong. I know a lot of growers don't like to put them under light immediately, but i've had good experiences with it thus far. Feel free to discuss your methods or critique mine!

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My little NL is getting quite bushy

As stated before this is the final light schedule change before 12/12 and that should be a good ways away. I plan to use 20-4 until my AFs show sex, then switch to 12/12 so my NL can get in on the action. My Scrog screen should be here before the end of the week, can't wait.
 

nnep

Member
So question, it's about the 2.5 week mark since sprout and my plant looks like a goddamn christmas tree. If it didn't have lovely identifiable cannabis leaves i'd sware i'd have a tree right intime for the christmas season! So is this some crazy strain, keep in mind i'm not sure exactly which seed this was. Is it a mutant, is it absolutely going to have ridiculous bud sights? I know what plants look like during this stage and typically it's not this! New layers are poping out almost daily, layers on top of layers, then more new tiny little layers?

for reference:

my plant (sorry for the less than perfect pictures)

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vs similar aged plants

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Thoughts?
 
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