Roots Organic Coco NO GOOD!

[inreplyavalon]

Transplanted a bunch of plants into larger pots the other day. Took the recommendation of my Hydro guy on the quality and non flushing needs of the Roots Organic Compressed Coco. BAD MOVE. Plants have not grown in three days and are starting to yellow from the bottom up. Looking terrible. Its a new room so i thought it could be a few things till i tested the runoff. Input ppm 0 Output ppm 2000.

After all the times i have tested coco, it sucks that this time i did not. There are quite a BIT of pots and they are 3 gallons so will need some seriously large amount of water to deal with this.

BEWARE...

ps... of course the bags talk about how extensively they flush their product to rid it of any salts cough cough bullshit

 

[inreplyavalon]

MY BAD

MY BAD

I discovered that the runoff i was testing was actually runoff from a feed of my moms that have not been flushed in a while. A bit of miscommunication with my buddy. Although my plants look like crap, and i dont know why,
I DONT THINK ITS THE COCO. IT is reading 700 ppm runoff on fresh coco, with an input of 0ppm RO. SO...tail between my legs i humbly apologize to Roots Organics for my faulty review

 

[magiccannabus]

If you're truly growing organic, then this is strange. I'm suspecting it's a pH problem, which in organics means your microherd is not in good shape. If you're using any chemicals, or water with chlorine, then a pH problem is a likely culprit. At least with coco we can almost always rule out overwatering.

 

[buddin_904]

recalibrate your meter.....stick in some buffer and see how many points your shit is off....no one seems to want to do this and some people even show arrogance over how positive they are their meters are correct....sorry yeah right...they go miscal. just after one use. just humor me and spend 2 seconds recalibrating and rechecking your solutions

 

[buddin_904]

your pH meter that is....i pay no attention to ppm run off, infact even let them drink some run off. i no relative ppm going in, which is fairly important, by calculating doses off the side of the bottle. the run-off ppm however has never been of interest to me because i believe what most of the people on here have to say about coco, and that is.....water to run off! then you dont ever have to worry about excessive salts dominating your medium. and if that isnt enough, well feed em plain water once or twice to let them eat some of those accumulations. sorry, i jus dont see the point in checking run off ppm or even pH for that matter.

 

[NOYB]

Good to hear not the Roots stuff but sorry to hear about the issues. I go to one of the Aqua Serene stores and know the peeps there. While not supremely educated on stuff they've proven to be pretty straight forward and take good care of me.

 

[jackiee]

if your using coco just keep it pure coco nothing added, yea thats right nothing no perlite,soil,hydroton clay pumice,nothing

 

[sukuhdi]

hey

hey

hey i was wondering if you liked the Roots Organic Coco stuff at all? I just bought a bag today and im ready to return it, cause i didnt realize it already has kelp meal,perlite, pumice, worm castings, bat guano....

I was thinking maybe it would be better to get some coco from a different company that "just" has coco in it.

I havent checked out any other coco's before but my bag of roots organic coco looks and feels just like dirt. Is it supposed to be in big chunks?


Thank you any advice would be much appreciated

 

[Lazyman]

I've had this problem with new coco, since it has a natural tendency to lock up magnesium, nitrogen, and potassium, I believe the cure is the following:

Pretreat your coco with a strong cal/mag and nutrient solution, let the coco "eat" before you put plants in it, and the roots will be able to get some of that next time you feed.

 

[orpanic]

Cal-Mag is not organic......also, try B'cuzz coir.....b'cuzz it's BETTER!

 

[Citizen024]

Botanicare blocks rinse real clean for me. They are the only block I trust. Maybe GH. I have bought B'Cuzz- it ran out at 1200ppm. Fuck it. If I have to rinse, may as just well hydrate the blocks and save half the cost. Got to do the work no matter what.

I hydrate in a huge rubber maid. I have a three gallon mesh bottomed pot (or several really) and take the hydrated coco and fill the pots. You can use the post to skim it out of any standing water if you have any from hydrating. Next take your hose, and shower spray the coco with water. It will run out the bottom quit well, but most the coco will stay in if you just leave it on the ground and let the water run. Do it for awhile. Check run off if you like, it is usually down to the same as imput within a few minutes. Then mix, transplat in, and go.

I add equal amounts of perlite- 3 gallons. Then a 4' container full EWC. Makes it easy to keep the measures even and consistant.