Which plant nute requirements is closest to cannabis?
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JackTheGrower
Oh! What a thing..
It's what we all do!So where are you at? Understanding how the plant grows, how to provide the right soil conditions and air, light and such...
What's your style of growing may I ask!
JackTheGrower
Cannabis is a 'rank feeder'. Once you're watering effectively enough to promote a good root system, it sucks up nutrients like there's no tomorrow. If the watering is lacking, PH swings and nutrient burn are around the corner.
I grew some tomatoes in containers using virtually the same soil mix/compost/amendments, and feeding with the same teas as my Cannabis plants this year. The tomatoes plants produced more fruit than I could eat, and I was giving them away to relatives and friends so they would not go to waste. They were/are really tasty and sweet!
The Cannabis has has done better than any of previous grows so far despite a few minor hiccups along the way, and it being my first time with true organics using compst/guano teas. Harvest is not far off now, so ask me again then
Heres a couple Taskenti shots from a few days back
The Cannabis has has done better than any of previous grows so far despite a few minor hiccups along the way, and it being my first time with true organics using compst/guano teas. Harvest is not far off now, so ask me again then
Heres a couple Taskenti shots from a few days back
On the other hand, it's not much fun to go broke waiting for a decent harvest to ever happen. Still, I do agree that the learning is fun too. These days I have stopped trying to control everything, and instead letting nature do what it does best(via organics). I'm both more lazy and more successful at the same time.
"These days I have stopped trying to control everything, and instead letting nature do what it does best(via organics). I'm both more lazy and more successful at the same time." Great point, I'm sure there are many here who could get more lazy and more successful at the same time! Locals who drop by are always amazed by how much less work my methods take. At least 5 have sold all their expensive hydro equipment and 'returned to the earth' because they saw my garden.
Back to the OP, I think tomato's are a fair comparison in the nutrient requirement department, but I'd say tomato's are generally a bit more touchy and difficult to grow than cannabis.
Back to the OP, I think tomato's are a fair comparison in the nutrient requirement department, but I'd say tomato's are generally a bit more touchy and difficult to grow than cannabis.
^ this is true for me, I like the words "returned to the earth"
you know on the topic of tomatoes, my dad grew gardens for a long time, and he never used nutes and he grew and grew year after year, and his tomatoes were the best plants, and the ones he liked the most? maybe he never told me his growing past???
you know on the topic of tomatoes, my dad grew gardens for a long time, and he never used nutes and he grew and grew year after year, and his tomatoes were the best plants, and the ones he liked the most? maybe he never told me his growing past???
I used to read through forums, studying pH and which chemicals worked best for which results. I mean, a human can indeed feed a plant directly better than a single bacteria can, but the soil bacteria has billions of allies, whereas we have just the one us. Why fight nature doing what it is evolved to do?
I guess the point is that you can be lazy in a lot of areas, but you have to just make sure your fundamentals are all in place before you stop tinkering. A good soil mix doesn't need aerated tea, but it helps. A good soil mix shouldn't need added nutrients, but it can help. So many things are optional. These days I mostly give them plain water and watch them grow. I just had to admit nature does some things better than us humans do. Nature helps make decisions that we'd have to make on our own in a chemical grow. Outside the soil may vary from place to place, but you can find thousands of totally different plants on a single acre of Iowa countryside. The soil they're in is all about the same, but their needs vary immensely. Cannabis knows what it needs, and the soil biology delivers it if it is available(and around here it always is). You don't have to worry about what it's most similar too, except in a very general sense when mixing your soil(unless you buy soil pre-made). Even when mixing, you can put a large amount of nutrients in your mix, far more than you could safely do in a chemical grow. These huge amounts don't burn the plant up because the soil biology will store what isn't needed, assuming you set up the right environment for it. I haven't had a single nutrient-burned plant since I started organics with chlorine-free water. Not once. No matter how much I've put in there, it just never burns them. Letting the mix sit for a while before using it does help some on that front, but with my current mix I don't really even NEED to do that. It's just nice is all.
Do you grow indoors or outdoors? If you grow indoors you can do the whole cycle without any added nutes with your soil mix? I used MG on my first grow but after I realized how horrible it is I've switched to FFOF. I don't really like how I can't keep the proper pH with it though, do you have some advice on what other premade soil/additives other then lime that I can mix in and will help? I am trying to do it all organic. It sounds like you really know what your doing with soil and unfortunately I don't have much of a green thumb it seems.
Actually I see you use Pro-Mix, how did you like that? Is that the one that comes with no nutes or anything straight out of the bag or am I getting it confused with something else? I was considering mixing that in with some lime to my next batch (right now I just use straight FFOF like I said just with added perlite).
I grow indoors in containers. I make my own soil mix though. It's 50% coco coir, 20% mushroom compost, 20% peat/pro-mix/recycled mix, 5% composted manure/humus, and 5% fine clay. To that I add 1tbsp per gallon dolomite lime, 2 tbsp per gallon bone meal, 2 tbsp per gallon Espoma Flower-Tone, and 1 tbsp per gallon Espoma Bio-Tone starter plus(my bag of flower-tone is old and doesn't have bio-tone in it, but the new bags do, so when I get a new bag I will use 3tbsp per gallon Flower-Tone and no starter plus).
I can do the whole grow veg through flower without adding foods, but I do transplants, and that of course brings new food to the plant. It's not like I don't give them anything, but transplanting and feeding aren't necessarily different things to me. They get some molasses on occasion, but mostly just plain water.
I can do the whole grow veg through flower without adding foods, but I do transplants, and that of course brings new food to the plant. It's not like I don't give them anything, but transplanting and feeding aren't necessarily different things to me. They get some molasses on occasion, but mostly just plain water.
It does not hold as much water as peat, but it still stays moist somewhat well on it's own. When I do my organic mix though, the composts and other additives all hold some water. With decent sized pots, I find it stays moist about as long as my old soil grows did, but I can't over-water it no matter how hard I might try. Serious plus. I'm growing in fairly small pots too, only 8 inch plastic pots.
Bass Akwards
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Answer to the Original Question ...
Answer to the Original Question ...
The answer to the original question, according to Dr. Carleton Turner, is: CORN.
Turner grew weed for the US Government at the U. of Mississippi, and made himself rich by patenting piss-tests for cannabinoid byproducts.
Turner referred to Cannabis as "an exhaustive crop".
His best advise?
( though it was decades ago )
"Treat it just like corn."
Answer to the Original Question ...
The answer to the original question, according to Dr. Carleton Turner, is: CORN.
Turner grew weed for the US Government at the U. of Mississippi, and made himself rich by patenting piss-tests for cannabinoid byproducts.
Turner referred to Cannabis as "an exhaustive crop".
His best advise?
( though it was decades ago )
"Treat it just like corn."
