Steve Cooley to push for BANS!

[kmk420kali]

Since they are getting flak over Moratoriums, some LA Cities are taking a new approach, and adding that only businesses that comply with State AND Federal Law may obtain a Business License--
http://south-el-monte.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=80&meta_id=5257

 

[VirginHarvester]

Is it possible to comply with Federal law and have legal MJ sales?

 

[kmk420kali]

Is it possible to comply with Federal law and have legal MJ sales?

Not at this time...that is why they are doing it-- A Legal way to not uphold Calif Law--

 

[PharmaCan]

Since they are getting flak over Moratoriums, some LA Cities are taking a new approach, and adding that only businesses that comply with State AND Federal Law may obtain a Business License--
http://south-el-monte.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=80&meta_id=5257

If that's the case, I hope they are ready to close down most retail businesses in El Monte. You see, the population of El Monte is somewhere around 20% illegal aliens. Anyone doing business with those illegal aliens is aiding and abetting their criminal activity. Any business that accepts the ill-gotten gains of illegal employment, whether it be the illegal alien employees or the illegal aliens' employers, is in violation of federal law vis a vis money laundering statutes.

Sorry El Monte, you can't make a law then turn a blind eye to a preferred segment of society breaking those laws.

PC

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

yes they can, and then they will. nobody wants to rock to boat of the majority of voters

 

[PharmaCan]

yes they can, and then they will. nobody wants to rock to boat of the majority of voters

Well, they can try, but that's what courts are for. The city simply can't discriminate against a particular segment of society.

Anyway, El Monte has a huge Latino and illegal immigrant population. All someone needs to do is go to their hearing on this ban and point out that by bringing federal law into their agenda they are opening the illegal immigration enforcement can of worms and I bet they will fold like a cheap chair. Same goes for the city of Los angeles.

PC

 

[habeeb]

there time is coming to an end.. it's only a matter of time.. keep up the good vibes guys..

 

[PharmaCan]

Here's a copy of my letter to MPP. Tomorrow I'll compose a similar letter to Steve Cooley as well as the cities that have already enacted the ordinances. The sooner people start demanding that these ordinances be enforced, the sooner they will go away.

Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley is trying to encourage cities in Los Angeles County to ban medical marijuana dispensaries by enacting statutes requiring that only businesses that comply with both state and federal laws can be granted a business license. While this may seem like a viable strategy to drug war crusaders, there's a huge fly in their ointment.

A large percentage of the population of Los Angeles County is composed of illegal immigrants. All of the income earned by illegal immigrants is illegal under federal statutes. Selling groceries, or any other commodity or service, to illegal immigrants, whose source of the money they are spending is illegal employment, is money laundering under Federal Statutes. Granting a business license to any enterprise that employs illegal aliens is also a violation of federal statutes. Los Angeles, along with just about every other county in California, has refused to participate in the enforcement of our immigration laws under the guise that enforcing federal laws is outside their jurisdiction. They can't have it both ways!

I would like to suggest that MPP have your attorneys start demanding that the cities that have passed these ordinances begin enforcing them immediately against all business that employ or do business with illegal immigrants. A good place to start would be with banks and construction businesses. Banks are blatant transgressors since they are directly involved in money laundering. Construction companies are another prime target as their employment of illegal aliens is a secret to no one.

Obviously, neither L.A. County nor the cities that have enacted the anti-mmj ordinances are going to enforce their ordinances when it comes to illegal immigrants since it would require them to close almost every business within their jurisdictions. However, it is discriminatory to enforce laws against one segment of society while giving preferential treatment to another. When faced with the prospect of either enforcing these ordinances across the board or facing lawsuits requiring them to do so, I strongly believe that the County and cities will repeal their ordinances and drop this ill-conceived strategy.

I look forward to your thoughts on this matter.

Sincerely,

Tomorrow I'll post my letter to the County and cities along with a mailing list. I'd like to encourage everyone who can afford a stamp to print the letter and send them to the people on the mailing list. These bastards need to learn the meaning of "double edged sword".

PC

 

[FrankRizzo]

Pharma- While I whole heartily agree with you, what they will do is "prioritize." They will just say that they are working on all the other illegal businesses and just go around closing all the ones that are serving legal medical payments. These aholes don't give a shit about us and they will find a way to do what they want. They always do.

Kudos to you for writing in thought.

 

[PharmaCan]

Here's the letter to Steve Cooley. Letters to the cities will follow tomorrow.

FrankRizzo - sorry dude, but when prioritization turns to discrimination it is illegal and actionable. Do you really think that Los Angeles County and the cities that have passed these ordinances are willing to spend millions of dollars defending their ordinances against discrimination suits? The way to fight these bastards is threaten their pocketbooks. It's as simple as that.

September 17, 2009

Steve Cooley
District Attorney, Los Angeles County
Clara Shortridge Holtz Criminal Justice Center
210 West Temple Street, Suite 18000
Los Angeles, Ca. 90012

Dear Mr. Cooley,

I would like to thank you for encouraging local municipalities in Los Angeles County to enact ordinances requiring that business licenses only be issued to businesses that are in compliance with both state and federal laws. While the ordinances you are advocating are aimed directly at the proliferation of medical marijuana dispensaries, they have the added benefit of finally providing an avenue to address the problem of illegal immigration in our communities. As you are well aware, it is against federal law to employ people who are in this country illegally. It is also against federal money laundering laws for banks and other businesses to handle money from illegal aliens as it is the ill-gotten gains of illegal employment.

I would like to suggest that the best place to start with your enforcement activities is to revoke the business licenses of all banks in Los Angeles County as these enterprises not only offer their services to illegal workers, they compete for their business. Banks will be an easy target for enforcement since they are knowingly involving themselves in illegal money laundering and because they have very good records which will make it easy to determine that many of their customers are illegal workers. You also need to start revoking the business licenses of most of the construction and janitorial service companies in Los Angeles County as these companies flagrantly employ illegal workers, all in violation of federal laws.

I sincerely hope that you will take my recommendations seriously! Discriminating against one segment of society in favor of another is quite illegal in and of itself and I will not hesitate to file legal action to ensure that these ordinances are enforced equally, across the board, with no favoritism to any particular business or group of people.

Again, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for you encouraging these ordinances that will finally address the problem of illegal immigrants in our communities.

Sincerely,

PC

 

[Blue Dot]

You won't be able to prove "discrimination". FrankRizzo is right.

It's not like they are gonna have internal memos saying "just go after the dispensaries and leave all the other businees alone."

That will just be implied by the nature of their job and there is no way to prove that.

When they don't go after the other business and you demand to know why they will just say they have limited resourses and you won't be able to prove otherwise.

They win, you lose. Sorry, it sucks big time but this is politics afterall.

 

[FrankRizzo]

FrankRizzo - sorry dude, but when prioritization turns to discrimination it is illegal and actionable. Do you really think that Los Angeles County and the cities that have passed these ordinances are willing to spend millions of dollars defending their ordinances against discrimination suits? The way to fight these bastards is threaten their pocketbooks. It's as simple as that.

And that my friend is why you are smarter than I am. I wonder if their lawyers will take ious? lol

 

[kmk420kali]

PharmaCan...I have great respect for you...but that letter will never be read by anybody but the aide that deletes it--

EDIT** I apologize for that real, but defeatist attitude...I was angry at something else last night, and it spilled here, in the sentence above--
K+ to ya for stepping up!!

 

[Lifebreather]

...once again, lawyers will benefit greatly will all the newly made criminals needing 'defense'.

 

[johnnyla]

the illegals are at Home Depot. just an FYI.

 

[Blue Dot]

The people who wrote this ordinance have illegals working for them as maids and landscapers.

Are they gonna go after themselves? lol

 

[StayHigh149]

Pharma, keep doing ur thing!!! 1 little pebble causes a ripple but a bunch of them can cause waves....

Everyone that sits back it says "Aw, things will never change so why should I fight"....well, they are right....things will never change. Things will not change ONLY because THEY CHOOSE NOT TO FIGHT!! Small minds with "crab-in-the-bucket" thought processes are exactly what our opponents count on.

Unity & mobilization are 2 things that the "mj re-legalization community" seems to be lacking the most of. It truly is a shame.

Fight on, mi bredren, fight on!!!

 

[slappyjack]

The people who wrote this ordinance have illegals working for them as maids and landscapers.

IMO using the term "illegals" is similar to Anslinger using the scary term "Marihuana" to disparage Mexican immigrants in the reefer madness days.

Just a heads up. I wouldn't have mentioned this if I hadn't seen it used twice in this thread.

Positive change will never come from employing negativity, xenophobia or racism.

 

[IGROWMYOWN]

IMO using the term "illegals" is similar to Anslinger using the scary term "Marihuana" to disparage Mexican immigrants in the reefer madness days.

Just a heads up. I wouldn't have mentioned this if I hadn't seen it used twice in this thread.

Positive change will never come from employing negativity, xenophobia or racism.

Mexican nationals would be the pc term i guess but illegals arent just mexicans so what do you call them? If they are in fact here illegally wouldnt that make them "illegals"?

 

[Tony Aroma]

Do you really think that Los Angeles County and the cities that have passed these ordinances are willing to spend millions of dollars defending their ordinances against discrimination suits? The way to fight these bastards is threaten their pocketbooks.

Sadly, I think you're wrong. How much have many cities and counties in CA already spent to fight or get around state laws? Just look at San Diego. The only thing that stopped them spending even more money was their case finally making it to the Supreme Court. These crusaders don't care about the money. It's not theirs. And no one ever complains about spending money on the war on drugs. At least no one that makes a difference. Also, look at the prison situation in CA. They have to release 1000s of prisoners. But are they talking about releasing non-violent drug offenders? No, they'll be the last to be released. The war on drugs in infinitely fundable. At least it is today.