Sniffing what we see-a dogs view of the world

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A taste: "Dogs, as anyone who has ever met one knows, sniff a lot. They are, says Horowitz, “creatures of the nose.” To help us grasp the magnitude of the difference between the human and the canine olfactory umwelts, she details not only the physical makeup of a dog nose (a beagle nose has 300 million receptor sites, for example, compared with a human being’s six million), but also the mechanics of the canine snout. People have to exhale before we can inhale new air. Dogs do not. They breath in, then their nostrils quiver and pull the air deeper into the nose as well as out through side slits. Specialized photography reveals that the breeze generated by dog exhalation helps to pull more new scent in. In this way, dogs not only hold more scent in at once than we can, but also continuously refresh what they smell, without interruption, the way humans can keep “shifting their gaze to get another look.”




http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/books/review/Schine-t.html?_r=1

 

[shawkmon]

does this mean they get more thc in their lungs when we blow them shotguns?

 

[Cookie monster]

^^ thats abuse in my book

 

[shawkmon]

thats was a joke, tasteless yes, i have dogs and they are weed free

 

[DailySmoker]

^^ thats abuse in my book

Giving a dog a bit of second hand weed smoke isn't abuse, my friends dog used to sit in its bed for ages then as soon as i sparked up a spliff she would run over and sit on my lap so i used to give her a few tokes and she would love it. If a dog didnt like the smoke it wouldn't run over when i was smoking a fat zoot.

 

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Giving a dog a bit of second hand weed smoke isn't abuse, my friends dog used to sit in its bed for ages then as soon as i sparked up a spliff she would run over and sit on my lap so i used to give her a few tokes and she would love it. If a dog didnt like the smoke it wouldn't run over when i was smoking a fat zoot.

Jesus. It ran over to you because canines require a pack leader, and it wanted to hang with you. The effects of drugs on dogs and humans is completely different. It's very immature and irresponsible to get animals high.
Please stop if you're doing it.

That's all I have to say about that. No offense. It's all love dude, but that shits lame.

 

[DailySmoker]

He had to get rid of the dog a couple of months ago so i no longer do it, but im telling you, the dog loved it. Also, she only ever used to come and sit with me when i smoked a joint.

 

[NOKUY]

...and if you think a dogs sense of smell is impressive...they got nothing on bears:

Bears are thought to have the best sense of smell of any animal on earth. For example, the average dog’s sense of smell is 100 times better than a humans. A blood hound’s is 300 times better. A bear’s sense of smell is 7 times better than a blood hound’s or 2,100 times better than a human.

Bears acute sense of smell evolved in order to help them find food, mates, keep track of their cubs and avoid danger, particularly between competing individuals. Except for mother bears, bears are territorial animals that need to range widely to find enough food to sustain themselves. A bear’s sense of smell is so acute that they can detect animal carcases upwind and from a distance of 20 miles away. You should just assume that they can smell the food in your food bag too.

Bears have an incredible sense of smell because the area of their brain that manages the sense of smell, called the olefactory bulb, is at least 5 times larger than the same area in human brains even though a bear’s brain is one third the size.

Bears also have highly developed noses that contain hundred of tiny muscles and let them manipulate them with the same dexterity as people’s fingers. The surface area inside their 9 inch noses also has hundreds of times more surface area and receptors than a human’s.

 

[shawkmon]

looks like hes gettin up for a nose hit in the puffs,lolol

 

[Bulldog11]

That bear road that log all the way from North America to Greenland. He is the best bear explorer of all times, except for Bear Grills(sp) of course.

 

[Marywanna]

I wouldn't mind being a dog.......one of OUR dogs,that is.But it would be more polite to shake paws than smell each others butt................

 

[NOKUY]

i'd love to be my dog too...he's soooo spoiled, (aside from me tho he doesnt have any friends).......so i feel really bad about that.

he mostly just likes to chill anyway tho.

i thought about gettin an OUTSIDE cat...he's an inside dog, but he like all animals...tho he acts like and looks like he's a big meanie....he's not tho.

here is yukon actin' hard...and ridin' dirty...lol

here is how he usually acts:

...and my sisters deceased mastiff-mix w/ a friends dirty daughter...(i had to scan the old pic...sorry for the quality):

im also considering gettin' a puli, but yukon might not do good w/ a new inside dog (for sure not another boy)...im thinking about it tho

heres a puli for those that dont know (like my old komondor, but smaller, and more a herder than a guard like the kom)...yukon and a kom would kill eachother. i havent been around a puli tho

here is my old komondor:

 

[mean mr.mustard]

yukon you better not get that bear high...

 

[Lune TNS]

Jesus. It ran over to you because canines require a pack leader, and it wanted to hang with you. The effects of drugs on dogs and humans is completely different. It's very immature and irresponsible to get animals high.
Please stop if you're doing it.

That's all I have to say about that. No offense. It's all love dude, but that shits lame.

Actually, I've seen a dog who would bark at you until you let her up jump up and lap up some smoke. No lie. She would do it every time we smoked, then would go chill out in her chair. Coolest dog ever lol.

My dog hates the smoke, I'm sure he's caught a second-hand buzz once or twice though

 

[MrMcBean]

lol crazy looking washmop dogs.. What kind of personality do those kritters have?

 

[NOKUY]

smoking out pets does bother me as i wouldnt do it, and never have unless they are just in the room...not intentional.

but knowing how damn devoted they are and how hard dogs work to please us i dont see too big of a problem....alot less harmful than acting like mike vick.

i just wouldnt do it on purpous to my best buddies...i know everyones dogs have their cool ass quirks...and sum love beer even...

ive seen the best companion dog anyone could ever have who was raised by a friend in alaska who lived in tent.

...his dogs name was "buddy" he was pit x beagle....mostly pit, but the dog would bring back any rock or bottle that u threw into the woods no matter where u threw it...same rock or same bottle every time (change rocks...he'd bring that one back...same w/ a new bottle).....that dog had to do nuthin more for me to prove how awesome he was, and im sure it wasnt hard, but it blew my mind.

we was smoking a gang of weed and tons of beer then too. (good times tho)

 

[NOKUY]

lol crazy looking washmop dogs.. What kind of personality do those kritters have?

you dont want a komondor unless youve had alot of big dogs and already know that you are alpha and can prove that constantly because koms will test you on that constantly...(and will hurt you if not)

thats the white dread dog in my pics...they are hungarian livestock guard dogs, and only ever been bred to be a guard...(thats why i got mine)

she made life heaven and hell...no one ever fucked w/ us, but she was a constant battle....they are guards that dont need trained to be guards...if you wanna train them out of 'guard duty'...good luck. (scars? ...yep i got 'em)

komondor is the meanest dog ive ever seen...they decend from 'russian ovcharka', and are cousin to 'kuvasz'.

the little black puli are related to komondor, but bred for herding, and like i said i havent been around the puli, but understand the are good 'watch dogs'
prolly not guards.....komondor is a GUARD. PERIOD. ....just google them if you dont believe me

 

[NOKUY]

..and on the komondor thing...i dont mean alpha like "oh bad doggy"...i mean like BAD DOG and your fighting...like serious fighting...not always, but can be often.

..the problem w/ ours was she was on protect/kill mode constant, and didnt need to be, but because it's their natty way it was fights....and it's not so much her training...it's seriously how they are.

 

[Lt. Herb]

^^ thats abuse in my book

Glad we cleared that up, cuz you know, we were all wondering....

Jesus. It ran over to you because canines require a pack leader, and it wanted to hang with you.

Bullshit, and you'd know that if you knew half as much as you pretend to about dogs. Why would a dog recognize a random pothead in the room with its owner as the pack leader rather than its owner? Additionally, pack leaders/alpha males do not allow pack members to just come jump in their lap whenever. Generally that sort of thing would get a pack members ass kicked as the alpha would view it as a sign of challenge.

That's all I have to say about that. No offense. It's all love dude, but that shits lame.

And the guy with his 'practice grow' thread would know lame very well.


Anyone who has actually had dogs (not just a few childhood pets, but have owned, raised and been around dogs most of their lives), knows that all dogs are different. I've had dogs that would leave the room as soon as I opened the jar because they wanted no part of it, and I've had dogs that you better not leave a bud lying around or they'll eat it. I had a dog that drank Capt. Morgan straight, chased it with beer, then came and pestered me until I packed the bong and let him hit it. I had a dog that would find random bits of bud lying around and bring them to me to fire up, so she could get a puff. Each of these animals did what they did of they're own accord, not through encouragement or guidance from me or anyone else. Call it abuse if you want, but me and my mutts know better.

 

[NOKUY]

this is very good advice on a komondor:

If I were considering a Komondor...


My major concerns would be:


Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Komondors MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Bored Komondors can make a shamble of your house and yard.

Komondors are most satisfied when guarding livestock. You can substitute pulling a cart or sled, or backpacking, or tracking, or a similar canine activity, but if you simply want a pet for your family, I do not recommend this breed. Komondors were never intended to be simply household pets.


Suspiciousness and over-protectiveness. Komondors need extensive exposure to friendly people so they learn to recognize the normal behaviors of "good guys." Then they can recognize the difference when someone acts abnormally. Without careful socialization, they are likely to be suspicious of everyone, and with their power and determination, this can be exceedingly dangerous.

If you have small children, I do not recommend a Komondor. Young Komondors (up to about three years old) can be bulls in a china shop. When they romp and jump, they do so with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people. In addition, Komondors may try to protect their own children from other children, which could lead to tragedy if kids are simply roughhousing and the Komondor decides to stop it. With such a massive dog, I wouldn't take the risk.


Animal aggression. Most Komondors will treat the pets in their own family as members of their flock. However, they have strong instincts to drive away animals who do not belong to their family. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals.

To keep your Komondor in, and to keep strangers and other animals out, fences should be high, with wire sunk into the ground along the fence line to thwart digging. Gates should have the highest quality locks. (a straight 7 foot fence is not high enough)


The strong temperament. Komondors are not Golden Retrievers. They have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. Many Komondors are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss)[ and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say....i didnt add that

To teach your Komondor to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Komondor Training Page discusses the program you need.


Noise. Unless you live on a farm or ranch away from close neighbors, Komondors should never be left outside in your yard, unsupervised. Their deep, booming barks will have your neighbors calling the cops to report the nuisance -- or perhaps letting your Komondor out of his yard so he'll wander away.

Grooming. If you want your Komondor to look anything like the pictures in dog books and on TV, you'll be spending an enormous amount of time and energy in coat care. The wiry hairs of his outer coat tend to fuse with the wooly hairs of his undercoat to form felt cords. If you wish to keep this appearance, you must separate the cords every few weeks. Bathing takes an hour, for the cords must be thoroughly rinsed. Drying takes at least 24 hours, with the dog in a crate surrounded by a dryer and box fans. Your second option is to brush out the cords whenever they start to form. This produces a natural "shaggy" look that simply requires lots of regular brushing. For the easiest coat, you may choose to keep the coat trimmed or clipped so it's short and neat.

Shedding. Komondors definitely shed, though some of the shed hair gets caught in the long coat rather than ending up on your floor.

"Shaggy dog syndrome." Like all shaggy dogs, the Komondor is a messy dog. Leaves, mud, snow, fecal matter, and other debris cling to his rough coat and ends up all over your house. When he drinks, his beard absorbs water, which drips on your floors when he walks away. When he eats, his beard absorbs food so that when he sniffs your face or presses his head against your leg, YOU end up dirty, too. Big shaggy dogs are not suited to fastidious housekeepers.

Legal liabilities. In this day and age, the legal liabilities of owning any giant breed that looks intimidating and has a history as a guard dog should be seriously considered. People are quicker to sue if such a dog does anything even remotely questionable.

Frankly, most Komondors are "too much dog" for the average household. This is a serious working dog with tremendous strength. Very few people really have the knowledge, facilities, or skills necessary to manage this breed and provide the type of work that keeps him satisfied.