My first try at aero.

[RandomGuy00001]

Air stone added .. and on a whim i left my ppm's alone .. i did change the rez though .. just incase any non-oxygen loving bad guys hadn't set up shop.

so far, roughly 17 hours since air stone has been added. PPM's stayed at 1350 before rez change, right back to 1350 after rez change.

so .. for 17 hours being on i kinda wanna say DAMN. flower size increased about 25% overnight, and the pistals(sp?) are goin nuts now. I am gonna photo update tomorrow(ish) .. gonna try to shoot the same shots as i did in post 18 .. but might not be able to cause i moved thangs around.

 

[Mist]

Are the leaves still yellowing? Or better a better question is are more leaves yellowing?

Usually when it is an O2 deficiency the leaves will turn at least a little greener, perk up and no new leaves will turn yellow. So if more leaves start to yellow out like they were doing then we will need to look for another causee.

I am glad that from what you said the plants are looking better and putting on bud weight.
Lets go with those pics!! LOL~

 

[RandomGuy00001]

photo update

photo update

Here ya go, i decided to go ahead and snap some photo's .. quick replies deserve quick updates right?




here's how we're lookin today .. everything is the same as it was except for the addition of an airstone. What do ya think???
Photo1

this one isn't getting direct direct light .. and is one of the smaller branches.

Photo2

another one that isn't under direct direct light, more on the outer rim .. but still showing signs of red stems greening back up .. i think ??

Photo3

This leaf was wrinkled and curled all to hell yesterday .. it still isn't alot to look at, but looks somewhat better to me.


Photo4

this one is under direct light, and the pistal(sp?(I'll google the spelling later .. am lazy)) growth exploded!


Photo5

same as above, slightly blurred .. but damn i think it looks happier today.


Photo6

leafs lookin happier? startin to flatten out and un curl a bit? It's hard
for me to tell .. i stare at them all the time.


Photo7

what do the "leaf teeth" (could u drop the tech-word for that on me?) mean when they point up like that?

Photo8

yellow spots clearing up i hope.

Photo9

one of the less attractive looking area's .. we'll see what goes on here.

Photo10

not the healthiest .. but a very average looking example of what the majority looks like today.
Whatcha think?

Mist: Thank you for jumpin in and helping me out I didn't do a good job
of documenting my home built aero system as i built it .. and cant really get
better shots than what i got now for ya .. but i tried to show you my 2 root zones
connected to 1 rez, with one pump. The RZ's are elevated by empty 5 gal buckets ....
one bucket i tore the shit out of cause it made me 'upset' .. was fighting with my
water inlet line. But .. it worked out. Turned into a perfect compartment to throw
the aquarium air pump. Inside each RZ is a 1/2" pvc rig with 28 360 degree sprayers.
Overkill?



Photo11

i'm trying to show u the 2 diff "totes" that i am using as my RZ's. Each tote sits on 2 - 5gal buckets.
Photo12

how it hooks up to my HUGE (haha) 3-gal REZ

Photo13

heh heh heh ... bubbles

Photo14

Wasup momma's ... why some of your leaves doin funky stuff?




--RG1

 

[Mist]

Oh yea, they look a lot better. The leaves are standing out straight instead of drooping over and that is a very good sign and the look to be greening up too. Good jog!

 

[Eminem]

as far as the roots being brown, I didnt see anyone mention nutes. I use GH 3 part and have never had white roots. They always turn brown. I think the nutes stain the roots.

Anytime I have a real problem with my plants, like yellowing etc, I dump the rez a couple times over 1-2 days and flush everything out. Then start over. On the current grow I had some issues, then realized I was using Lucas too weak, fixed it and my yellowing went away every grow after


Looks good. Dont worry most of us have made alot of mistakes, I know I have

 

[RandomGuy00001]

Em .. perhaps i am using the lucas formula too weak as well. As i mentioned before in the post, the video "seeMoreBuds" inspired me very much .. and in the vid he was using a 1-0-1 ration of the GH flora series. Micro, Grow, Bloom .. 1 part micro, 0 grow, 1 part bloom .. per x amount of water, gives u the right nute ratio. Then i add nutes to achieve the desired PPM. What i was reading about the lucas formula .. was (in milliliters) 0 grow, 8ml M, 16ml B. So if i am lookin at that right, they're saying to use a 1-0-2 ration, 1 micro no grow, 2 bloom.

does that make any sense? lol There was ment to be a question wrapped around all that .. basically is 1-0-1 too weak, should i tweak?

--RG1

 

[Eminem]

Listen, I am no expert, I just kind of find what works and go with it.

But heres my insight. The yellowing you showed, reminds me of what I had and I thought it was a magnesium issue. I was using Lucas at 5ml/10ML because my PPM were too high IMO. I went to 8/16 and the yellowing has not come back. The bloom has more magnesium in it. I resisted using Lucas for a long time

I have run quite a few plants through the lucas at 8:16 and no issues. Well none that are nutrient related

And 1,0,1 is not lucas. Basically Lucas is a 2:1 ratio of bloom:micro

 

[RandomGuy00001]

Alrighty man, i'll flush 'er out and mix up some new nutes. i think the red stems are getting worse .. and the yellowing hasnt been 100% cured yet. I can kinda see what the air stone has helped with .. there are less wrinkly lookin leafs .. but i still know somethin aint right. Will photo update in a few days.

 

[Mist]

You know that there are many other good brands of nutrients out there right? LOL

I know that General Hydroponics nutrients are good and that many, many people use the Lucas formula. And I am in no way knocking it because it does obviously work for many people. But there are other bad ass nutrients that do as good and some even better than Gen Hydro. And with them and the system you have now you can just mix up a 20gal. trash can of nutrients and then top off your controller when the buckets get low.
Maybe something to think about on your next grow with DWC. I used Ionic nutrients in conjunction with Gen Hydro florolicious grow and bloom with great success for years in my DWC systems. And Canna really kicks ass too.

You may want to look into using Florolicious grow and or bloom in your current grow too. It really makes a difference in your end results.

 

[RandomGuy00001]

Photo Update:

The girls have responded very well to my changes up in nutrient mix. I was
running a 1-0-1 ratio of micro-grow-bloom. I flushed everything out, and
changed the ratio to 1-0-2 micro-grow-bloom. It's been about 5 days now,
and they seem to like it. Whatcha think?

--RG1

 

[Apollonia]

Holy shit, nice recovery man, looking green & frosty! Look like this time you might come out the other side of this.

I dig those skinny, spiky sativa leaves! I haven't seen pics of leaves like that in a good while. When I saw your original post I seriously had to click on the pics to confirm it was MJ you were growing and not spider plants!

I use GH nutes too and my roots are always that very light tan color you're showing... I haven't encountered any problems so far, I think GH floralicious plus (which is excellent) may also stain the roots, in case you were using that - but now I'm suspicious about the Micro being the cause of the discoloration. I've heard Liquid Karma makes your roots that brownish color also. In any case, I have read in one horticultural source that light tan is an acceptable color for healthy roots; slimy, brown roots are the indicators of disease.

I love your last picture, it looks like a field of gumdrop clover

 

[Mist]

Nice comeback ! They are looking great now and it looks like you will have a nice harvest in the end.

 

[Aerohead]

Leave his roots alone they are doing just fine, my res is in the 80's right now and no problems... His plants look fine, that cool weather will help indeed...

 

[fatigues]

It's threads like this that make me smile.

Usually, it doesn't seem that big a deal to read about yet another grow that works out. The pics come up, the speed bumps are downplayed and it all works out in the end. Then it's questions about weight, harvested bud shots and everyone moves on to the next thread or diary. And a Good Stone was had by All.

Don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with those sorts of diaries; they are the meat and potatoes of ICM.

And yes - there are exceptionally successful threads that turn into DIY inspirations for a large number of emulators. Those threads are "stars" - and stickied. Applause all around.

But stuff like this? This is inspirational. It starts with a crop that is allowed to stretch past the lights. It moves on to a slimed rez and another disaster. RandomGuy takes his licks - reports on them like a totally stand-up guy - and moves ahead.

He's not done. Next up? A near disastrous fire and a crispy fried and burnt grow. RandomGuy does not give up and keeps at it.

Despite some scares in the root box, this one seems to be maturing and frosting up nicely. Awesome. I love to see sticktoitiveness rewarded.

A guy who takes his licks - reports on it - and is right back on it, time and time again? A Fucking 1.



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[RandomGuy00001]

Holy shit, nice recovery man, looking green & frosty! Look like this time you might come out the other side of this.

Hey hey, thanks for popin in Apollonia! Thanks for the props on the recov! Not sure i am out of the woods yet. I may, may "may" have some of the growing-pains remedied, but i still haven't ever successfully cured anything. Looks like i'll have another opportunity to try it out eh?

Nice comeback ! They are looking great now and it looks like you will have a nice harvest in the end.

I hope so, And i sure hope it hurries up too! Wanna play a guess the harvest date game? lmfao, right now i am 62 days into 12/12 ..but have burnt, stressed/shocked and stalled em lmfao.

Leave his roots alone they are doing just fine, my res is in the 80's right now and no problems... His plants look fine, that cool weather will help indeed...

And it is helping every single day! This is how we learn and improve, ourselves and our machines. Aerohead, ya really think they look "fine" .. or the just look like they're not gonna die tomorrow? LOL

It's threads like this that make me smile.

""

But stuff like this? This is inspirational. It starts with a crop that is allowed to stretch past the lights. It moves on to a slimed rez and another disaster. RandomGuy takes his licks - reports on them like a totally stand-up guy - and moves ahead.

He's not done. Next up? A near disastrous fire and a crispy fried and burnt grow. RandomGuy does not give up and keeps at it.

""



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man, that guy sounds ducking fumb! lmfao. Thank you very much for your kind words. I know, for me, it isn't kind words or harsh criticism that keeps me going, it's trying to learn how to do this safe and right, and never ever run outta smoke again. But u know what, them kinds words, they do feel good. Thank you, friend.




So with all the bumps, the water boiling, the tops self topping themselves via fire, the nute def, the nutes being way too low, the green light being ran all night for a week (i might forgot to mention that in this thread .. hey guys i ran a green light for a week 24/7 in my flower room! it stalled the shit outta 'em!) .... how long you guys think till i need to start flushing? Am day 62 today.

Good vibes to all those that have helped me. And to the haters too, I must share.

--RG1

 

[RandomGuy00001]

no guesses yet? I am thinking about 3.5 more weeks of heavy flowering if i keep everything in check. Judging my the momma plant i flowered out, if it were in dirt i'd say 6 weeks.

Am gonna stick with 3.5 more weeks .. am at day 62 of flower, so i am guess right around day 86-87 i'll start the flush.

I hope i'm way off and it's tomorrow haha!

--RG1

 

[Mist]

Hey, stressing them out can sometimes end up being good for your yield. I stressed out some plants by putting them back into vegg on 24 hour light after a little over 2 weeks on 12/12 so that I could vegg a couple other plants under that light and finish them all together. THe ones that got stressed got huge colas on them and gave me a way better yield that the previous grow. I wouldn't reccomend that though, just using it for an example.
SO just be patient and they will finish when they are ready.

 

[RandomGuy00001]

 

[RandomGuy00001]

 

[RandomGuy00001]

lights out