**Big Iso Long Soak Hash Run!** Step by Step ..You can do it!

[Ms_Weekend]

get some lab grade hexane online (preferred solvent for organic extractions). dissolve all your stuff in some hot 70-91% iso (microwave in closed ziploc). add a small amount the hexane (1/4c), shake in the bag, allow to separate (iso on bottom, 20 mins), then clip a small corner of the ziploc, allowing the iso to drain (save in mason jar), then when the hexane layer reaches the bottom of the bag move over your evaporating container. all the goods will be in the clean hexane, with none of the water soluble gunk. with this method, you can do long/hot soaks, and get all the goods, and clean your product later.

microwave & flammable alcohol?....Id be scared out of my mind!....im sure it might work, but shit id want to do that outside

any pictures of the final product?

 

[Lazyman]

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

me too

 

[VT_Fire]

I'm really not trying to hate but damn an 8 hr soak? I can understand you want to get all the trich's you can but....
You should really look into BHO or something besides iso that'll do a better job at pulling off those trich's in less time. you'll end up with such a cleaner product which is the whole point..

 

[Ipsissimus]

keeping it in the ziploc contains the alcohol vapor. you stop as soon as it starts to bubble. you could do it over a double boiler (electric stove) in a well ventilated area, but that is an unnecessary PITA. People even heat alcohol inside over gas stoves on purpose (FLAMBE!!). Petroleum vapors can be heavier than air and can pool, for these you really need ventilation.

The only reason I recommend heating the iso is because it will help your material dissolve quickly. Heating works well for the initial extraction too (gets it ALL, goods & chlorophyll). Heck, leave the iso in a hot car. hot iso in a ziploc is my preferred bowl cleaning method. shake and bake.

I can verify this works VERY well with 71% iso and naptha from "ace". Result is golden/reddish oil, extremely potent. In fact, it even works with nasty pipe resin (dissolve in iso, extract with solvent).

 

[cocktail frank]

imo, 8 hrs is way too long of a soak.
you can tell from the glove in the bucket pic.
all the green color is from the chlorophyl in the leaves.
thats the stuff your trying to avoid when making hash.
thats where the "coughing" will come from.

i mean u no offense.
im not an iso freak, tastes too chemically for me ime.
ever try bho?
bho>iso anyday

 

[Moldy Dreads]

I used to do that in highschool. Isnn't that called Soapbar? I think we used to evaporate it with fire LMAO~!
Nice tutorial, but for trim BHO, bubble or budder is far superior. That stuff is bad for your lungs...

 

[Ms_Weekend]

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[HeD333]

Hey guys I just did a little experiment.....Since one of the things you were saying that would be in the hash was wax due to the long soak, I took a dark purple crayon & put it in 91% for 8hrs and none of it dissolved (crayons still hard), & the alcohol is still clear.....I did another crayon with the paper on it still & that one turned the alcohol a purple tint after about 2hrs.... so that must of just been from the paper.....just thought id pass this along

Do the same thing with a fan leaf that has no trichomes on it... even one from veg.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

I took a dark purple crayon & put it in 91% for 8hrs and none of it dissolved

Totally different kind of wax, but appreciate you posting your results.

 

[Ipsissimus]

ms weekend. if you are happy with your end result, then don't mess with it! if you want to clean it further, I cannot emphasize enough how effective a liquid wash with a selective solvent can be. take it from a long time kitchen tinkerer, it is really is quite astounding.

 

[killa12345]

ive been running different styles of hash making......Hoping to get a BHO tube for christmas or something....

I do perfer ISO over Bubble bags any day of the week....My 75u,45u, 20u bags do spit out some beautiful blonde hash that is harder to beat than a soft dick.....but anyways.....I love my ISO

ALWAYS run it about 20-30 secs....i cant believe you would wanna some that black tar....ive been smoking hash for about the last 18 months...everyday straight....and i think my lungs would hurt smoking that stuff....i run a method where i run my iso threw a fine mesh large metal strainer.....then double coffee filter......the product is to die for....its like a solid rock....it looks like that amber rock on the bottom of that guys stick from jurassic park...

Pro about ISO...

Quality is the bomb if you run it right.
ISO can be found anywhere
Can make small batches with small quanities of trim or bud

Cons:
Low Yields
time consuming - running a whole bunch of small batches

Pros about my bubble bags

large yield - seems like the bags keep giving and giving and giving
fast...can be done in a hour or two depending on cycles
some of the quality is the stuff you see in HT

Cons:
Quality of overall product



My last two yields of ISO were over an oz...using about 1-2 lbs of trim...superior quality to the 2 oz of bubble made this week!

Enjoy a Close up of my 20-30 sec wash ISO

 

[VT_Fire]

see THAT looks like fire.

 

[shroomyshroom]

I wonder if the trim was bone dry if that would make a major diff in the chlorophyll being sucked into the iso ?

 

[killa12345]

I wonder if the trim was bone dry if that would make a major diff in the chlorophyll being sucked into the iso ?

i have run wet and dry leaves and or frozen and un frozen with all similar results....i really think the chorophyll is sucked out no matter how you storge or wash your leafs.....i think the short wash produces the best iso....

if you want just weigh a similar batch of trim or bud and run a longer iso wash and a short iso wash....lets just say 2-3min vs. 20-30 sec.....watch the yeild will be very similar but the quality will be very different....I ran one yesterday....both 1oz of trim from the same pile....one with a 30 sec wash vs. a 3 min wash.....yeild were 1.8 g for the long wash 1.7 for the short wash......long wash was near black but up close looks brown(really not that bad, BUT....).....the short looks amber or gold looking....id be willing to lose a point for the better quality....the difference could be a lot if running 16-20 batchs like i find myself doing but in reality its only a difference in 2-3 at the end of the day....and for that gold....its not even a competition!

 

[Capn]

freezing your iso and your trim before soaking seems to help, i soak for like 5-10 seconds.

 

[killa12345]

freezing your iso and your trim before soaking seems to help, i soak for like 5-10 seconds.

Never thought about freezing the iso.....hmmmm! Hey Capn what is the reason you freeze the ISO? Have you ever ran a controlled test to back up your claims? Im not trying to start an arguement at all...Im very interested in the freezing the iso though but would like a little more info or picture but with a 5-10 wash the product mush come out beautiful id imagine....im sure with a light wash like that the iso you put out must be near blonde?....might have to try that today.....harvesting time again!

 

[NiteTiger]

I never thought about freezing the ISO either, the reasoning behind it is clear - Iso won't freeze, it will just get incredibly cold, and make the trichs brittle.

I know it's almost required to have very cold temps in water extraction for that purpose. However, I doubt its efficacy here.

In Iso, we're not trying to capture the resin heads as in hash. We're chemically extracting them, which means we rely on the ISO to dissolve the resin. So the chemical action is what we want here, not the kinetic action.

Also, when we now attempt to take this extremely cold iso and evap it, it's going to take exponentially longer, even with heat.

Like I said, I can see the reasoning behind the theory. I just don't think in the long run it is achieving anything more than a protracted evaporation. I think you'll be left with a lower quality product than ISO can produce, and waiting longer for it.

Just my

 

[Ipsissimus]

the idea is that trichomes still dissolve in cold iso, while chlorophyll and other plant matter much less so. Based on your logic, a hot iso wash would be just as clean. This is not the case, it rips through the cell walls and grabs a ton of plant matter. I like to do a second wash with room temperature ISO to get the remaining goodies.

Also, when we now attempt to take this extremely cold iso and evap it, it's going to take exponentially longer, even with heat.

sure, it will take longer. maybe 30 seconds longer in a hot water bath, or with a hair dryer. have you done a normal iso extraction, let alone a cold one?

 

[NotGuilty]

the idea is that trichomes still dissolve in cold iso, while chlorophyll and other plant matter much less so.

Right on the money Sir.

Due to cold temps solidifying waxes and things. With the wax molecules moving closer together, it becomes harder for the solvent to surround them. Thus leaving them behind.

I think a good experiment for the theory with visual results is to do a room temp extraction, then chill washed iso to -20C. filter through coffe filter at temp. The waxes should be left in filter?.