Elevator in the Forest

[smokeymacpot]

looks like the 2nd plant may follow the first one? its showing the same colours
the plant laying down after having a chomp, there are rabbit droppings around it! makes me wonder if they nibbled it to bring it down, but didnt like it!
Highland Oaxacan Gold is NICE, abit light in colour though?
blueberrys looking healthy too.
looks like you will get some goodies this year

mine are now upto my waist and growing incredibly fast with no problems at all! you should have tried one! i will post a pic once they start budding.

 

[Elevator Man]

Ah no, they're not rabbit droppings - they're clay pellets. There were some mixed in with the soil I put in, and some keep popping to the surface...

The HOG is looking great, and is bright compared to other foliage, but not so bright green in reality - again, it's the white-balance of the camera and RAW format makes them look extra-vibrant - it does has more of a blue-green tinge to it to the eye.

 

[Ulysses]

Hey EMan!

Good to see you're taking a liking to the great outdoors... Once you go out, in just won't be the same!

I had a groundhog problem this summer (solved) and a nine point buck still bumbles through my boggish lil' brier patch breaking a couple but I had a few 'replacement' plants ready to move into position fortunately...

The new spot sounds promising-very promising, as any time you can get more sun on target the better. In my bog I start in containers when it's super wet then move into holes when it starts to dry... I went for a bit of coco in the mix this year- seems to be working. I hope it doesn't lock out any nutes...

Oh, BTW, Deer and Rabbit repellent is mostly Bloodmeal.

Continuing Luck to you!

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Oh...really sorry to hear'bout the deer fiasco...hope you manage to get some bud.

Have you ever contemplated introducing a bit of Danish passion or early wonder skunk into your crosses specifically for the uk outdoors? I'm hoping to generate some flo-f13 beans specifically to create a very early flowering variety...hmm...that purple male flo pollen I just collected is a great start!

Keep your pecker up man...

 

[esbe]

cheers bro, i hope those damn deers wont destroy more plants, good to see some are still untouched.

 

[Elevator Man]

Thanks guys - appreciated. What puzzles me is they really seem to have a taste for the purple stems, as most of the 'green' plants are untouched - all the damaged ones have been Flo, or Flo-related, which is odd. Maybe they recognise a good source of anthocyanins when they see one.

Bummer though, as that large MoFlo was my primary outdoor experiment. I have a good vegging clone though, so will aim to make seeds from that for next year's attempt...

We did run a few of Esbe's strains ast year, and many of those got eaten too - just didn't have time to start more seeds in time for this year, but got plenty left...

 

[esbe]

you could try the purpurea bro, i have a lot of snails in my garden some years and they never touch that. also it would finish 100% at you and have the colors you like! also if you have it the bangi haze x purt looks so interesting if your looking for colorbombs! they are both, but especially the pure purt, very resistant to many types of mold and rot

 

[Elevator Man]

Yeah, I know, I'm kicking myself for not getting some of those in time for this year. Where's the easiest supplier you've found? I'm not sure if Felix/Owl still operate through a distributor? I did see one site, but it was all in German, and I'm not too good with that...

 

[Elevator Man]

Since watering in a pile of nutes last Sunday (in the rain), we've had constant sunshine ever since - cooler evenings, which might add some color, but essentially hot, intense sunshine every day for a week now - I'm really pleased, as this is exactly what they needed. No clouds visible at all today - beautiful.

Not sure how long this spell will hold, so I'm going to try and visit again tomorrow and give them some more water and feed and get more piss down too! Will update with new photos when I get back.

 

[smokeymacpot]

i look on http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ for a local 5day forcast, we've had all our sunshine for this week

 

[Elevator Man]

It finally got cloudy again today, but it's all good. I'll try and get out again later and report back.

 

[Elevator Man]

Well, first the good news - no more plants have been nibbled, by deer, slugs, rabbits or anything else for that matter. The three that had been attacked are either dead or trimmed down so much they'll never do anything now, so we're down to eight viable plants.

But firstly, the most annoying (and potentially worrying) issue is the death of my MoFlo_1B_2, which was the biggest and most vigorous of the lot until two weeks ago. It was bitten by deer two weeks ago, but that doesn't explain the total cave-in this plant's experienced - "obviously a major malfunction". I can't think of anything other than systemic toxicity, but from what I have no idea - it's only received organic nutes and bat guano like the others. And the second photo gives some idea just how close it is to the other, healthy MoFlo_1A_RH:



And that MoFlo seems to be fine, although it is showing the shade-leaf withering I've seen on the old Flo #3, although that seems to be a trait, rather than an illness as such. It's flowering properly now, and I expect this one to be done in about five-six weeks:



The Highland Oaxacan Gold is actually just about to go into flower, which is extraordinary - this gives it a trigger-date of around 6th September, and with an 11-12 week flower period means it would finish around mid-November. Now I know I'm an optimistic sort, but that's when I chopped the last plants last year, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility I might actually get some bud from this. Coupled with the sativa's ability to resist high humidity, I'm fairly hopeful it might just make it - we don't get much frost around here till late, so you never know. Pity the tip-leaves have been nibbled a bit, as otherwise it's very photogenic:



The Flo #4 is flowering nicely too now, and should just be a few days behind the purple MoFlo, around mid-late October, though I'm happy to leave it out if it's dry:



Skating sadly past the two chomped plants (Flo #3 and MoFlo_1B_1), the next one up, the Blue Satellite #2 (sour apple pheno), is just coming into bud, though the density of the plant, and the tendency for the leaves to grow upward might mean it's a bit of a mould-trap if we get a wet period:



The indica Blueberry (#1) hasn't grown much, but is beginning to flower now, and may stretch a little more before it's finished, but it's more of a curiosity than anything.

The sativa Blueberry (#2) has finally picked up, and whilst not huge, looks like it'll produce some decent bud, though how dense they'll be outdoors is open to question - at least it has begun flowering, which means it'll finish outdoors. Sadly the first pic is a little out of focus.



The grapefruit pheno Blue Satellite (#3) is also just beginning to flower, and is a little more spread-out (and quite a lot larger) than the other pheno, which might give it an advantage in rain. But the size and density of the buds this pheno produced indoors still gives me cause for concern if it gets wet:



Last up, the Kentish Creme is finally developing some small buds (and branches!) - as always, it seems to prefer branching from the top rather than the bottom of the plant outdoors, which tends to give it an upside-down cone appearance - though still very, very similar to many Flo phenos, which is why I crossed them to make the JLo hybrid (more on that elsewhere):



I sprayed a lot more piss around, which seems to have worked in keeping the deer off the plants, as they're definitely spending time in the area, to judge by the flattened bracken and fresh droppings. Hopefully they'll keep getting the message.

It's probably not going to rain for a few more days at least, so I gave them another good watering with veg nutes, and will probably leave it there until mid-flower, when I'll began giving them more bat guano, etc. If anyone has any ideas what might have caused the total loss of the MoFlo plant at the beginning of the post, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks

 

[The Hummus Monk]

That Jlo looks great!

I would pull up the dead one and examine the roots...maybe the exact spot has a complete lack of drainage? Maybe even look at the roots under a scope. Visually it seems it was starved of oxygen down there.

In what order did it die? Tips first? Stems? Bottom up? Middle of leaves and out?

It is odd...but we can figure it.

If it wasn't waterlogged then some kind of root grub?

Neat urine would also do that.

Well done on getting this far though!

 

[englishrick]

hay EM,,,lookin good...

i cant wait to see your results,,,,its defo inspiring

 

[Elevator Man]

Hummus Monk - it died tips first. The report a week ago has a picture of it dying. I think I might dig it up and have a look, as it was perfectly healthy up until then.

Hi Rick - good to see you again. It's no indoor harvest yet, but it's fun, and always good to have an excuse to get out there!

 

[Elevator Man]

Here's the sequence of events over the last three weeks - does this look like regular, sustained toxicity, or a sudden influx (ie poison)? Looks like the latter to me...

17th August:



6th September:



13th September:

 

[englishrick]

good to see you too EM,,,,looks like your havin loads of good fun ......

i hope they grow big buds for you,,,,

 

[Elevator Man]

Dead plants are never fun, and don't usually grow big buds...but I'm keeping on keeping on...

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Did you notice any other non cannabis death in close proximity? Def seems like it was fatally burnt by something...especially with the tip first degradation hmm...

...oh the joys of the great outdoors!

 

[Elevator Man]

Not as such - the bracken is beginning to die off naturally now anyway, so it's hard to tell from that. Brambles are almost perennial, and they look OK, and they got liberally sprayed with my piss last week!

The only odd thing I found (and this was by the Kentish Creme on the other side of the patch), was a streak of grey on the ground, like a splash of liquid cement, or metal paint, about a foot long. It was definitely a liquid splash that had dried-up, and I scuffed it with my boot, and it just blew away like dust. It wasn't on the plant, but about 3 feet away, and definitely wasn't there last week. Whether this was toxity from the piss I sprayed I don't know, but it wasn't anywhere else.

Maybe deer vomit? I don't know what else they eat, but possibly they lick up clay/earth for dietary reasons and then puke it out again? It's all a puzzle to me, but to be honest, the factor of human involvement makes me nervous from getting into too much detail on the area, just in case. I just wish I could figure this out, as I've never seen a healthy plant die so quickly before.