When do you start flush on an unknown flowering time plant?

[medmaker420]

I have a couple untested strains I am playing with and don't know their finishing times and sat here thinking.

When do others stop feeding and start flushing when they are unsure of the finishing time.

For instance, what if you think it is an 8 week strain but it ends up being a 12 week strain? What signs in the plants do you look for, trich color, density, new pistil growth slowing.

I am working on getting better flushes on my grows and thought this question getting answered will help me perfect my current op.

 

[FreezerBoy]

I'd chart trich colors. Once you know how fast they change you can predict when they'll be the right color. Start flushing two weeks earlier than your prediction.

 

[somebody041]

i've read that if you don't know a good rule of thumb is to wait until you see 10% amber trichs to begin the flush.

i am making no claims that this is the correct procedure just trying to help you out.

 

[medmaker420]

that is my issue, with something you know as far as finishing time you can estimate when to flush BUT wondering as to when to do so IF you have no clue when its done

2 weeks earlier than I predict leaves too much room for guessing, as far as seeing 10% that makes a bit more sense as far as a guess as to when it COULD be done.

Anyone else have issues like this?

unknown finishing times?

maybe something the leaves are doing, the trichs are doing and so on?

I think this is a solid question needing solid answers or thoughts by anyone and everyone.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Depends on the high you want. If I wanted mostly cloudy, I'd stop nutes at 1/2 cloudy. If you want a lot of amber, that's anybody's guess. Good luck. Charting the progress is a great suggestion. You'll have a handle on it for the next grow to boot.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

in the old days before trichomes we went on the % of pistils that have turned. if you harvest when pistils are 75% turned then maybe start flushing when they get to 50%. or you could wait till you start seeing the trichomes start clouding up.

 

[coopdevillan]

YAY for this thread

YAY for this thread

Fucking AWSOME question I made this same one a day ago on 4 sites and have got lil to shit in responses !!! I am in the same boat with three mystery strains. Id rather go by tell tale sighns than dates any how. Like with mine I believe I stressed and slowed them down when I lost a light for a day and some nute lack so I would say it w=set me back a week ? Good question.

 

[pontiac]

As soon as you start noticing brown trichs in a sea of cloudy trichs (no clear)... usually means there are under 2 weeks left before harvest. Harvest @ 50/50 brown/cloudy.

 

[coopdevillan]

YAY for Pontiacs a reliable car

YAY for Pontiacs a reliable car

As soon as you start noticing brown trichs in a sea of cloudy trichs (no clear)... usually means there are under 2 weeks left before harvest. Harvest @ 50/50 brown/cloudy.

Thank you PONTIAC you have put a solid piece to the puzzle

 

[*mistress*]

most plants are not really ready until @ least 70 days (10 weeks). however, 9 wks (63 days) should give a gardener a good indication of +/- days to go next run. but most actually could go to @ least 63+... especially if in no hurry for veggies... & truly want to evaluate genetics. if just want some quick fruit, mark harvest date @ 60, begin flush @ 50 & be done w/ it... so, depends...

depending on flushing practices, can begin flush @ 42-53 days. roughly, reduce n dominance @ wk 4 (28 days flower); stop n @ wk 6 begin flush @ wk 7 (49 days flower)... should have clean, fresh-tasting fruit in 63 days. if finished in 56, have still flushed for a week...

also, if from seed, give an extra week... most clones give good characteristics of genetics @~60 days... (ivho)... if from seed, give @ least to 63-70, to see what is underneath it all...

enjoy your garden!

 

[Fast Randy]

This is a great question. I have some of Subcools' Agent Orange and his Jacks Cleaner IIs almost ready but can't see signs of the huge trichs turnning amber yet. But I did harvest one of my other plants because the top trichs were turning amber and flatenning out. But the lower buds were still growing new pistils and I wish I would have left it longer.
DiscoBiscuit: When we haven't grown a variety before is there a way to tell what kind of high it will give by the color of the trichoms?

 

[*mistress*]

This is a great question. I have some of Subcools' Agent Orange and his Jacks Cleaner IIs almost ready but can't see signs of the huge trichs turnning amber yet. But I did harvest one of my other plants because the top trichs were turning amber and flatenning out. But the lower buds were still growing new pistils and I wish I would have left it longer.
DiscoBiscuit: When we haven't grown a variety before is there a way to tell what kind of high it will give by the color of the trichoms?

really no short-cuts...

take individual lower nodes @ day 45- harvest. every other day. note samples. observe distinct flavors of fruit...

went this far; creating garden & maintaining it, deep into the season - may as well take little steps to insure quality control. and not be in rush...

if have 9-10 weeks as a max (generic, subjective standard), can then count backwards instead of forwards.... this way, are looking for declination of peak, rather than front end. may alter perspective... if on 1st run of cultivar, go @ least 9 weeks. plant will tell you when it is done. it will be nearly dead...

impossible to judge the taste of a fruit from looking @ it...

enjoy your garden!

 

[AinSophAur]

5%Amber 70%Cloudy 25%Clear

 

[syze]

great info, word for word, greets -syze-

really no short-cuts...

take individual lower nodes @ day 45- harvest. every other day. note samples. observe distinct flavors of fruit...

went this far; creating garden & maintaining it, deep into the season - may as well take little steps to insure quality control. and not be in rush...

if have 9-10 weeks as a max (generic, subjective standard), can then count backwards instead of forwards.... this way, are looking for declination of peak, rather than front end. may alter perspective... if on 1st run of cultivar, go @ least 9 weeks. plant will tell you when it is done. it will be nearly dead...

impossible to judge the taste of a fruit from looking @ it...

enjoy your garden!

 

[WAMEN]

i go by calyx maturation/size and pistil colour/lenght usually.. i dont bother with magnifying lens..

the flower is mature to me when you dont see more than a few white pistils here and there (happens with sativa doms, none with indicas usually) and theyre all brown and short, and the calyxes are well formed, full, compact and big.