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Hempster

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Something I've been thinking about lately. I would so love to be able to talk to an experienced criminal attorney for advice *before* any legal troubles. Think of all the advice they might be able to give, on what kind of growing is safest (or at least how people most often get busted around where you are), how to handle communications, business deals, financial affairs, how to protect your constitutional rights, protect your family, friends, and associates. I assume this is just a dream that could never be fulfilled, because I assume that for a lawyer this would be entering into a criminal conspiracy, and they would not talk to you. Or that they would consider it a total breach of etiquette and might not want to ever represent you. Is it true that there's no way to do it? What does it mean to have a lawyer on retainer, and is there any reason to do that, or is that not applicable to criminal matters?

Maybe the only growers who can do this are the few lucky ones who establish a relationship selling weed to a good criminal attorney who is willing to advise in return.

Tell me if I'm just being stupid, because I suspect that I am, but just had to ask.

Thanks!
Hempster
 

qbert

Member
I think a retainer + their hourly fees and they would be glad to talk with you.


... about hypothetical situations that may arise. I wouldn't advise speaking in terms that admit criminal activity. Despite the confidentiality that exists it would probably be bad etiquette at best.
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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Ya right, go tell a lawyer what you are up to. Then he can rat ya off and make his next BMW payments from defending you in court.
 

Hempster

New member
... about hypothetical situations that may arise. I wouldn't advise speaking in terms that admit criminal activity. Despite the confidentiality that exists it would probably be bad etiquette at best.

That's a good point. Keep all discussions "hypothetical". :yes:
 

qbert

Member
Ya right, go tell a lawyer what you are up to. Then he can rat ya off


That would get them disbarred in a heartbeat. While there is confidentiality, lawyers hands get tied as to what they can advise once they know that something illegal is happening.


Besides, it would be easy to meet with a lawyer to discuss hypothetical situations without disclosing one's identity.

My GF & I are planning to do just this since she would prefer to get some advice on how to handle various types of encounters with law enforcement from a professional (knock & talks, traffic stops, 911 calls, etc).
 

Hempster

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That would get them disbarred in a heartbeat. While there is confidentiality, lawyers hands get tied as to what they can advise once they know that something illegal is happening.

Besides, it would be easy to meet with a lawyer to discuss hypothetical situations without disclosing one's identity.

My GF & I are planning to do just this since she would prefer to get some advice on how to handle various types of encounters with law enforcement from a professional (knock & talks, traffic stops, 911 calls, etc).

Wow! so you would go hypothetical and anonymous. Would you make an appointment to talk face-to-face, but just not give your names? I'd like to know how that works out for you, if you do it.

In the meantime, here are some great videos along the lines of what you said your GF is interested in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE

The first one reminds me a little of the opening scene from Supertroopers, which makes me laugh just thinking about it.
 

IGROWMYOWN

Active member
Veteran
I think a retainer + their hourly fees and they would be glad to talk with you.
I tried this with Bruce Margolian he basically told me to call him back when im busted. Maybe I should try the lower level guys. He's my buddys lawyer but my buddy owned a co-op.
 

kmk420kali

Freedom Fighter
Veteran
Here are a few Lawyers that might talk to you about this situation--
I work for a Collective, and every move we make is through our Lawyer--
BTW...Bruce is a great Lawyer...but an asshole...He doesn't like me much, cuz I am "Inappropriate in Court"--:nanana:
Allison is a better choice--

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Denson, Eugene
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Duree, John R., Jr.
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fax (916) 447-2988
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Figueroa, Omar
(415) 986-5591
(510) 649-0420



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(The) Lentz Law Firm
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Margolin, Allison
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Margolin, Bruce
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Richlin, Srewart, Esq.
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Shevin, Eric D., Esq.
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fax (818) 784-2411
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Warriner, Timothy E.
813 Sixth St. Ste. 450 (In Hall of Justice Building)
Sacramento, CA 95814
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fax (916) 441-0970
http://www.warrinerlaw.com

http://www.cannashops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10551
 

j6p

Member
Wow! so you would go hypothetical and anonymous. Would you make an appointment to talk face-to-face, but just not give your names? I'd like to know how that works out for you, if you do it.

In the meantime, here are some great videos along the lines of what you said your GF is interested in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE

The first one reminds me a little of the opening scene from Supertroopers, which makes me laugh just thinking about it.
They are very informative, especially the ACLU video #1, which I tagged to watch again from time to time.

Here is another ACLU video which is funny to watch - it gets right to the point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLpSY8d3gRc&feature=channel
LOL
 
Lawyers are NOT going to tell you how to evade the law; they are officers of the Court, and as Bar members they have special dtuties to the system, including never being a part of a criminal conspiracy. Lawyers will not tell you how best to get away with law breaking.

They WILL, however, advise you on your rights and how to excersize them. If a lawyer told you how to get around the laws he could well be considered a part of any crime committed. If a lawyer knows in advance that a crime will be committed, he has a moral and legal obligation to inform the cops. Never tell a lawyer details about a potential crime, or let one know that you are about to commit one. A lawyer can know that you are a criminal...after all, thats his customer base...but he never wants to know specifics about any future crimes...past ones OK..but not future.

Most lawyers want the easy money of a plea...and many will press you to give in, but many good attorneys out there will fight tooth and nail for their clients, and those are the ones we want on our side.Be careful how you phrase things with a lawyer, and speaking ' theoretically' may not make the lawyer confortable enough to discuss future crimes...be careful and general as possible while still getting the info you need.
 

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