feeding with fish tank waste water?

[noone4u]

i wonder about the dechlor agent used when changing the tank

 

[noone4u]

i know that the water is great for house plant but i dont consume my palm trees.

The dechlor is marked hazardous by osha.

the only info I could find was for non consumable plants

 

[somebody041]

i've read alot of recommendations for doing this but i've yet to see any substantial evidence. it seems like the chemicals in the tank would hurt the herd. i'd love to hear someone chime in as well...

 

[noone4u]

well its a 100 gallon tank and i only use 2 capfulls 10 ml i think. im just wondering as it would be easy cheep food

 

[noone4u]

i've read alot of recommendations for doing this but i've yet to see any substantial evidence. it seems like the chemicals in the tank would hurt the herd. i'd love to hear someone chime in as well...

that is the only thing i put in the tank just 2 capsfull of dechlor nothing else 100 gallons of water

 

[JackTheGrower]

I hope someone chimes in here since I have a vague memory that there are different forms of the nitrogen in the water..

What I did want to say is people bubble their water to de-chlorinate.

That would solve the chem problem I believe..

But do check with a fish website to be sure cuz I wouldn't want to cause your fish stress or harm.

Aquarium Water Quality: Ammonia and Nitrite Toxicity Explained

So there is both nitrates and ammonia? Didn't know that.

Did you search the site for posts on this.. I'll bet it's been discussed.

Myself I would water the compost pile rather then my plants and i can't remember why I decided that.

Oh well..

Poor Man's "Fish Tank" Chlorine Removal

That site says let it stand but others say even a little can be bad..

 

[noone4u]

I hope someone chimes in here since I have a vague memory that there are different forms of the nitrogen in the water..

What I did want to say is people bubble their water to de-chlorinate.

That would solve the chem problem I believe..

But do check with a fish website to be sure cuz I wouldn't want to cause your fish stress or harm.

Aquarium Water Quality: Ammonia and Nitrite Toxicity Explained

So there is both nitrates and ammonia? Didn't know that.

Did you search the site for posts on this.. I'll bet it's been discussed.

Myself I would water the compost pile rather then my plants and i can't remember why I decided that.

Oh well..

Poor Man's "Fish Tank" Chlorine Removal

That site says let it stand but others say even a little can be bad..

this would all be well n good but i change 25 gallons and i dont have that many buckets or the space to let them sit around for a day

 

[JackTheGrower]

this would all be well n good but i change 25 gallons and i dont have that many buckets or the space to let them sit around for a day

Okay.. Not argue but a trash can? Clean and new of course .

That's all I can do so good luck.

P.S. got a picture of the fish? I like them just don't like to keep a tank.

 

[jaykush]

i know people who use only fish tank water. its FULL of biology. if its a healthy tank. no need to feed wither as the water already contains nutrients.

dont know about the dechlorinator, might have to ask my buddy.

 

[noone4u]

i know people who use only fish tank water. its FULL of biology. if its a healthy tank. no need to feed wither as the water already contains nutrients.

dont know about the dechlorinator, might have to ask my buddy.

yeah that my only concern really I am aware of the fact its great for plants but not so great for edibls. I use a product called prime which uses hydrosulfite salts.

 

[noone4u]

bump

 

[3dDream]

I believe spice of life did this..

Aquaponics is a combination of Aquaculture & Hydroponics. This means that fish and plants are grown in an integrated system, creating a symbiotic relationship between the two. A symbiotic relationship occurs when two organisms interact with each other in ways that are beneficial for both.

Aquaponics uses the water from the fish tank to circulate through a grow bed where the plants are grown. Nitrifying bacteria convert fish wastes into plant-available nutrients. The plants use these nutrients as their main nutrient supply. The fish benefit from this process also, as the water is filtered by the plants, giving the fish clean water to live in.

This integrated system of Aquaponics has benefits not achievable when Aquaculture and Hydroponics are done separately. Aquaculture has the problem of buildup of wastes in the water, requiring filtering systems to clean the water as well as periodic releasing of waste water into the environment. Hydroponics uses chemical nutrients that eventually build up in the water and create toxic water. This water can no longer be used in the irrigation of the plants and is disposed of into the environment.



Aquaponics takes both of these problems and turns them into solutions, as the waste in the water is used to feed the plants, therefore not requiring any chemical nutrients to be added to the system, and no pollution of the environment by either fish wastes or chemical pollutants.

There is currently a great deal of interest in Australia about sustainable farming practices including water use, and the degradation of our soils and waterways. Aquaponics uses less water to produce the same amount of food as conventional agriculture, organic agriculture and hydroponics.
As access to water is a critical factor for farming in any country, the use of Aquaponics with its low water requirement means that food can be produced in places that it would not normally be grown. Fish from the Aquaculture component of the Aquaponic system can be also harvested, providing fish in areas that do not have natural access to fish in their waterways.

Aquaponics combined with a climate-controlled environment such as a greenhouse, can produce food year round. Another limiting factor for farmers worldwide is access to fertile soils capable of producing quality food. Aquaponics does not need any soils, therefore being able to be utilised anywhere in the world.


WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF AQUAPONICS?

* Reduced water use
* Reduced chemical use
* Reduces pesticide use when set up in a greenhouse
* Reduces erosion by eliminating the need to plough the soil
* Reduced running costs compared to a conventional horticultural farm
* Stops backbreaking work of digging the soil and weeding for the home gardener
* Can produce fish and plants for the family / grower all year round, especially when grown in a greenhouse
* Compared to conventional Hydroponic growers, Aquaponics does not need to use chemical nutrients for the plants, as the fish waste provides these nutrients to the plants. This eliminates the pollution of waterways, which is usually used to dispose of the eliminated chemical water, causing
* Compared to conventional Aquaculture growers, an Aquaponics system does not have a build-up of wastes in the system that causes the water to become toxic due to the nitrites. Aquaponics utilises this waste, with the bacteria in the grow beds converting the nitrites into nitrates, which the plants then consume.



HOW DEEP SHOULD MY GROW BEDS BE?

The standard depth of Aquaponic system grow beds are the same as those used in the hydroponic industry. The depths can vary from 10cm (100mm) to 25cm (250mm) with the deeper the bed, the more problems that can be encountered with cleaning out the roots of plants. The depth only needs to be as deep as the plants roots grow. These depths have enough area to harbour the bacteria needed to make an Aquaponics system stable and successful.


WHAT KIND OF PLANTS CAN I GROW IN AN AQUAPONICS SYSTEM?

There have been many studies into the types of plants that can be grown in an Aquaponics system, including leafy greens, root based plants, vine plants, fruit trees, flowers and fodder food. The cost and turnover time of each crop varies dramatically with leafy greens being able to be produced in a few months, with root based plants and fruit trees taking considerably longer.


WHAT KIND OF FISH CAN I GROW IN AN AQUAPONICS SYSTEM?

Tilapia is the most common fish to be used in Aquaponics systems overseas, although the use of Tilapia in Australia is prohibited due to their ability to overtake and dominate local waterways. Barramundi, Silver Perch, Eels and Yabbies are more suited to the climate in Australia and are also native, therefore not causing great problems for the environment.


WHAT DO I FEED THE FISH?

The type of fish that are being grown will determine the type of fish food that is used. There are foods that have been created to suit specific species of fish, and others that are more generalised. The type of food will also depend on the amount of production that is expected from the Aquaponics system. Food can also come in the form of live food including worms and snails. Fish feed is available for most species from pet shops and specialty aquarium shops.

A commercialised system will require the correct type and amounts to be given for the best production possible, whereas the backyard grower may not be as specific about the amount that needs to be grown for the system to be seen as successful.


HOW MANY FISH AM I ALLOWED TO HAVE IN A TANK?

Again this will depend on whether the system is a commercial or backyard system, with the commercial systems requiring the correct amount of fish and plants for optimum production. The more fish there are in a system, the more nutrients there are for the plants to consume, but if there are not enough plants to consume these nutrients, the excess build up in the water can cause the plants and the fish to suffer.

 

[noone4u]

I believe spice of life did this..

yes nice read thanks BUT this doesnt answer my question about the chemical I use to declorify the water when changing my tank.

I just need to know if the small amounts I use will be dangerous to me when i smoke my bud that i grew with the tank water for 9 weeks

 

[jaykush]

how often do you add this stuff to the water? how often do you change the water?

doesnt your fish tank depend on micro organisms to stay clean and healthy?

i doubt it will make the buds you grow dangerous to smoke. there are much worse things people add at high concentrations and still smoke there weed.

 

[noone4u]

how often do you add this stuff to the water? how often do you change the water?

doesnt your fish tank depend on micro organisms to stay clean and healthy?

i doubt it will make the buds you grow dangerous to smoke. there are much worse things people add at high concentrations and still smoke there weed.

I add 10 ml. x about 3 times a year add it directly to the 100 gallon tank beofre add in the fresh 25 gallons

 

[joebean91]

I believe spice of life did this..

yep , I remember when Breeder Steve was in Switzerland , he was going to write a book about this . He was gonna call it Guppyponics .

 

[SlowCalaToker]

Have used the dechlorinator to treat the water I did have time to let set out and dechlorinate on it's own.

No problems, no issues on plants as young as single blade seedlings.

I use water directly from my tank (75 gal Koi) to mix up my nutes. Again, no problems, no issues.

Isn't 10ml a lot to be using for a water change on a 100gal? I use <2ml to do a 50% water change on my tank. Seems like a lot of dechlorinator to me...

Just my

 

[noone4u]

it's 2 capfulls not much lol

its 150 gallon tank but with displacment its 100 gallon

the question is not will the plants survive my friend!

The question is what adverse effect if any will it have on me when i consume the plant with this chemical in it ????

 

[jaykush]

i doubt it will have any effect on you. its not like its going to end up in the buds. though im not an expert on aquaculture and the products used.

 

[SlowCalaToker]

I have not had any documented issues. So shortness of breath, no lung infections, etc. The long-term effect can not be judged at this point, but if you are really concerned, pull the MSDS on the product you are using and do some cross referencing research to see if there is any possibility of issues regarding human consumption and at what levels issues might arise.

Good luck and let us know, I can't be the only one who has potentially smoked the dechlorinator!