rockwool cloning- I going to try it
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draw some cold water into a small bowl or container
put the water in the refrigerator for an hour
once the water is COLD, take your cuttings and drop the cut end into the cold water
soak the rockwool cube in water to wet it up [dont squeeze your medium]
prepare your rooting hormone [i use plain old schutz rooting powder, and i just pour a bit into the lid from the container]
take one of the cuttings, and remove the end 1/3rd of all fully formed leaves [the plant doesn't have roots and cant support all that leaf]
put the cut end of the stem back into the cold water and make an angle cut on the end, underwater [to prevent an embolism]
dip the freshly angle-gut stem end into the rooting hormone and tap off the excess
shove the cut end with the rooting hormone on it into the rockwool cube [i use them upside-down because they stand up better that way]
put the rockwool cube on a tray with a little water in it to keep the rockwool moist
put the tray under 24 hour soft light and wait 2 weeks for your cutting to root
cloning is cloning. doesn't really matter what the medium is.
put the water in the refrigerator for an hour
once the water is COLD, take your cuttings and drop the cut end into the cold water
soak the rockwool cube in water to wet it up [dont squeeze your medium]
prepare your rooting hormone [i use plain old schutz rooting powder, and i just pour a bit into the lid from the container]
take one of the cuttings, and remove the end 1/3rd of all fully formed leaves [the plant doesn't have roots and cant support all that leaf]
put the cut end of the stem back into the cold water and make an angle cut on the end, underwater [to prevent an embolism]
dip the freshly angle-gut stem end into the rooting hormone and tap off the excess
shove the cut end with the rooting hormone on it into the rockwool cube [i use them upside-down because they stand up better that way]
put the rockwool cube on a tray with a little water in it to keep the rockwool moist
put the tray under 24 hour soft light and wait 2 weeks for your cutting to root
cloning is cloning. doesn't really matter what the medium is.
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lysol
is clone gel / powder necessary? I have some but I hate to think it does more harm
Here's my mini DWC bubbler. A one minute soak in Hormex (any liquid IBA, NAA solution will do) with Rockwool and gel. An aquarium heater maintains a water temp of 75º-80º. Solution is: 1/4 tsp each per gallon GH FloraMicro and FloraBloom in tap water pH adjusted to 5.8. Keeping cuts short and well trimmed allows me to clone dome and mist free in RH as low as 15%. If they want water, they know where it is.
If you're going to let cubes sit in a tray of water, I'd suggest it be aerated. They make double tray cloners for just this purpose. These trays require a dome to prevent evaporation. I found the bubbler provides the same function but, with holes covered, water lasts a month or more and I can avoid the dome.
Cloning is Voodoo. No other area will see such disparate results from identical procedures. What saves me may kill you dead. That said, there is only ONE proper way to clone; Whatever gets you roots. There are a million ways to clone in the Naked City. Keep trying till one works for you.
The pros and cons of gels or powders is: some need them, some don't. Try without. Gel lasts for years but, if you don't need it ...
If you're going to let cubes sit in a tray of water, I'd suggest it be aerated. They make double tray cloners for just this purpose. These trays require a dome to prevent evaporation. I found the bubbler provides the same function but, with holes covered, water lasts a month or more and I can avoid the dome.
Cloning is Voodoo. No other area will see such disparate results from identical procedures. What saves me may kill you dead. That said, there is only ONE proper way to clone; Whatever gets you roots. There are a million ways to clone in the Naked City. Keep trying till one works for you.
The pros and cons of gels or powders is: some need them, some don't. Try without. Gel lasts for years but, if you don't need it ...
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ranneG
hey kiwiboy rooting gel is not nessasary but it increases you succesratio a little.
I do like Wait...What? and then i put the clones in a super easy diy cloner. Just a bedroller and air pump and some claypebbles and water. This time 42 clones 40 made it.
BTW how to make pics smaller anybody?
I do like Wait...What? and then i put the clones in a super easy diy cloner. Just a bedroller and air pump and some claypebbles and water. This time 42 clones 40 made it.
BTW how to make pics smaller anybody?
L
lysol
Size them up in photoshop prior to upload, or upload them under "go advanced" as an attachment when you are posting
Gotta stick up for Rockwool. 100% success. Roots in as little as 5 days. Less than 3¢ a cube when custom cut.
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mrred
i'd go with the rapid rooter or soil(with rooting gel) or a custom bubbler with those cut pieces of kids pool floating toy, i must of had some cheap rockwool this time,cloned ok.. but my seedlings grew way slower at the start, one just popped out when the ones i had in soil was already 3inch in dia, so im not buying rockwool again.
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lysol
heh, i cant get bubblers or standing water cuttings to root. Only times I have cloned successfully were with soil and rooting powder. Since I grow for personal use its almost more convenient for me to just pop more fem. beans from my mixed pack
take your cuttings, put them in rockwool cubes you have soaked in water then squeezed 50% dry, put the cubes with the cuttings into something with a lid thats clear of course, pour some water in the bottom just a little enough to cover the bottom in visible liquid. cover and put in a place with some light. leave alone, opening the dome once a day for a few minutes to let some fresh air in. you should have roots in about a week. make sure its not too moist you want the cubes to be wet, but not saturated which is why you squeeze half the water out.
Well, I have just done 21 clones in rockwool. I used the clonex, justing dipping the cut into the clonex( I have been in the past dipping the whole stem to get a thick layer of clonex.). The clones were put into a polybox with a small layer of water in the bottom. I put pane glass on top of polybox for a lid.
Lets see how it goes.
Lets see how it goes.
I found unnecessary some common details of the cloning technology:
-No need to take them off with sharp blade and put in cold water.
-No need to make an angle cut on the end underwater.
-No need to remove the end 1/3rd of all fully formed leaves.
Surgery
I take off with scissors cross cut,
give a blade angle cut,
scrape a little skin from opposite sides of rooting zone,
that makes it wet with juice and sticky to hormon powder,
put into powder,
Placing
place into prepared narrow channel in pre-soaked pH5,8 RW ,
place into humidity dome,
with a puddle of water at the bottom,
Care
water spray on folia and inside a dome daily,
control warm temp,
control dome and leaves to be wet constantly,
control water puddle at the bottom,
Reasons
100% humidity is the only way to get and to save the water when rootless,
it stops evaporation from a leaf that allows not to cut them one third,
leaf matter is the only available food before rooted, it's not a burden.
My WhiteRussian requires one week but MapleLeaf requires up to three weeks to show roots, it depends on strain.
jump!
-No need to take them off with sharp blade and put in cold water.
-No need to make an angle cut on the end underwater.
-No need to remove the end 1/3rd of all fully formed leaves.
Surgery
I take off with scissors cross cut,
give a blade angle cut,
scrape a little skin from opposite sides of rooting zone,
that makes it wet with juice and sticky to hormon powder,
put into powder,
Placing
place into prepared narrow channel in pre-soaked pH5,8 RW ,
place into humidity dome,
with a puddle of water at the bottom,
Care
water spray on folia and inside a dome daily,
control warm temp,
control dome and leaves to be wet constantly,
control water puddle at the bottom,
Reasons
100% humidity is the only way to get and to save the water when rootless,
it stops evaporation from a leaf that allows not to cut them one third,
leaf matter is the only available food before rooted, it's not a burden.
My WhiteRussian requires one week but MapleLeaf requires up to three weeks to show roots, it depends on strain.
jump!
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mrred
whatsthe earilest anyone has rooted from seedling in rockwool?
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lysol
mrred - Before cotyledons have emerged I've had tips poking, but I've also had a few nodes with no roots yet, just depends
R
ranneG
Bump any succes?
