FOX FARM DOES NOT SUPPORT US!
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smokesalot420
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You seem to be missing my point, so I'll try to explain it in a different way.....
Black Gold (which btw is also sold at the dispensary in question) has not forced the dispensary to stop selling their product. No other company has asked the place to stop selling their products.
Nowhere in my post did I say that any company should openly support marijuana (or medical marijuana which is what I am talking about atm) so I'm unsure why you are being silly about any of this.....
JD Mcnewgent
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were not gonna protest!
smokesalot420
Member
Yeah that is sad, seeing that there is no protection in California (where Fox Farms is located) from losing your job even if you are a legal medical patient.....
FoxFarms Fertilizer Company is a joke. As are all of their 'growing solutions' - beyond pitiful.
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JeffSpicoli
As far as im aware.. Advanced Nutrients is the only nutrient company that goes out and says they make products specifically for cannabis... I know AN is kind of a hyped/name sorta deal, but the fact that they have the balls to say whats really up, i respect them tremendously for that...
smokesalot420
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I should also state that the company that sells the soil is not technically a dispensary, but a grow shop located next to a dispensary.
CC- You are right, they are good for when you are starting out and don't know much, thankfully IC has shown me the light (thanks organic soil section!)
CC- You are right, they are good for when you are starting out and don't know much, thankfully IC has shown me the light (thanks organic soil section!)
smokesalot420
Member
You have to respect people (or a company) willing to stand up for their beliefs, so true sir!
LOL @ ky jelly:AN
it's true advanced nuterients openly endorses MJ cultivation....and i respect that, knowing their products are tested with marijuana to know that they are doing the best to formulte a Plant based nuterient... I am currently using GH nuterients and I have good success with Lucas Formula-8/16 Micro/Bloom + Floralicious but why do they sell FloraNectar and Florablend if all it does is crap up your res. knowing that your customer will be using hydroponics and using that product with their additives as reccomended by feeding guidelines. I understand you don't work for them anymore but I just send them an email about this exact thing this weekend I am hoping to hear back from them soon....
I bought a gallon of this floranecatar stuff planning to use it all this crop now it seems like i can't use it and i have a 60 dollar galon of panacake syrup??? I dont even know if i should just pour it down the drain. I got an email from AN on my youtube account they were checking out my grow suggested i try their nutes, maybe Ill work something out with them to let ppl know on my vids I use AN nutes and the results are in the video there and hook me up with the nutes for promoting them... Only if they are truely better though. Im talking cannabis cultivation specific becasuse better chelates is one thing but using cannnbis plant formulated nute ratios is another thing.... As this point im curious if there would be a benifit or not... not willing to spend a bunch of money on their nutes either before i know they work that way if I dont like them i can pour them out go back to my GH usual , with no losses. As you know loadin nutes into 55 gallon ressies on the regular isn't cheap....
I have used fox farm stuff before with so-so results I found their nuterients to be inconsistant. Mabye better quality control? Also got root aphids from there soil which made me switch to hydroponics just to rid myself of using any soil, and i would never reccomend anyone use their soil again because of that , once again quality control...
At a recent nursery trade show (not a garden and patio show), I spoke with the representatives from Fox Farm Fertilizer Co. and it's their to move their product form the 'pot growing' paradigm and enter into the mainstream nurseries. Fair enough - pot growers just don't buy enough of their products to move their company forward.
Problem is that their soil products are over-priced and are, at best, under-performing. That's because at their core they're a 'fertilizer company' and not a potting soil company, i.e. they make far more off selling the uninformed a gallon of 'Tiger Bloom' than they can ever expect from selling a 1.5 c.f. bag of 'underperforming potting soil'
Do the math - a gallon of 'Tiger Bloom' at $50.00 per gallon creates far more profit than they could ever expect to make on selling $50.00 worth of FFOF or FF Happy Frog.
It's all about profit and little more.
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Blue Dot
Uh, AN is a Canadian Company. They don't have to care about US law (or do they? (Marc Emery anyone?).
Most of you are missing the point, even though MMJ is legal in Cali, it's not legally federally and just like tommy chong you can't have a company promoting a controlled substance.
Dispensaries, grow shops, what does it matter, the feds can still bust them and the supplying companies for their relation to a controlled substance.
It's funny sometimes to read yours guys posts because just because MMJ is legal in cali doesn't mean the feds are happy with it and will do anything to shut it down, like going after FF for even being associated with Mj.
just like the Mcarthy era. Guilt by association.
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alpinestar
for what you get, the price is too high on their stuff
stopped ff a while ago - pure coco is the the way
stopped ff a while ago - pure coco is the the way
BurmeseDragon
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Fox farm was straight up marketed for MJ, that was how I learned about the product. Looking back, even though I never used the stuff. It doesn't look very good, but it's a tea and guano is hard to experiment with (strong stuff). There soil has so many heavy metals, which are not a huge problem. I find that heavy metals are organic, these are elements, but flushing metal? Flushing metal salts, well I never had plants need a flush.
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dongle69
Screening for meth, not weed.
Most of the employees smoke weed.
But ya, not supposed to go to work fucked up, or "medicated" as the false pot patients call it.
Ever worked with a wet alcoholic?
Sucks big time.
They are just covering their asses.
Many strive to be as successful as them, most fail.
I don't use any of their products, but it is all the same stuff that everyone else has.
Old people are funny.
Uh huh.
I can make a mix from professional ingredients (rather than the #2 peat moss that FFOF uses) for 1/3 the price.
For Fox Farm Fertilizer we 'old people' are their death knell. Mediocre ingredients coupled with crappy marketing is probably enough for the 'boys needing toys' but their product line has absolutely NOTHING to do with legitimate horticultural enterprises.
YMMV
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HighAltitude
nibirubian
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umm, these cats are based in humboldt county and gave made themselves a pretty penny by
aiming their product like that... i mean not just their product but their packaging?! i remember showing my uncle my bottle of "dont bug me"- he was instantly like oh its definetly made by stoners, well in the very least marketed toward, i mean happy frog ocean forrest?
not to meantion their whole line of clothing including baby get ups with foxfarm plastered on it
and every one of there packages looks like a trippy 60s poster or some ish
well im gonna give them the benifit of the doubt that they know their customer base
and that pressure was close to home and to protect themselves legally by saying that so they can continue to serve us
oh and theres always been pot growers waaay before this current medical trend
and those are the people who wouldnt mind a little discreetness u know?
so they can continue to feed their family
anyway
peace
google fema coffins
nibiru is coming
aiming their product like that... i mean not just their product but their packaging?! i remember showing my uncle my bottle of "dont bug me"- he was instantly like oh its definetly made by stoners, well in the very least marketed toward, i mean happy frog ocean forrest?
not to meantion their whole line of clothing including baby get ups with foxfarm plastered on it
and every one of there packages looks like a trippy 60s poster or some ish
well im gonna give them the benifit of the doubt that they know their customer base
and that pressure was close to home and to protect themselves legally by saying that so they can continue to serve us
oh and theres always been pot growers waaay before this current medical trend
and those are the people who wouldnt mind a little discreetness u know?
so they can continue to feed their family
anyway
peace
google fema coffins
nibiru is coming
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dongle69
Cool.
What would it cost you to market and distribute it internationally?
Some people's time (and convenience) is worth more than money.
Pre packaged soils and nutrients are for them.
I have no idea.
Then again I mix potting soil for medical growers who are broke and in need. I'm not trying to bend people over the hood of a car.
Make sense?
Hopefully so.
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headimonster
Active member
its an Agriculture product --and they probably don't want people that grow commercial gardens (NOT POT) to be thrown off that they are for POT growers....its a tricky industry and in northern cali there is wine industry (grapes) - organic veggies and fruit in Willow Creek area and BLue Lake - - - so i dont blame them - - - people that know...know - - plus they need to register their product in other states so im sure they dont want the rep as marijuana cultivator's choice - like AN has tried to appeal to that market
