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The End Is Near
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danny karey
^^^^^ LOL.......hilarious!!
Danny
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I stayed with my witch for a decade of torture after my kids were half grown, I managed to stay till my youngest was a senior when the witch kicked me out for the final time. It will not improve, you need to get legal in all aspects and prepare for a fight. There are fathers rights groups out there. My kids love me, and they know I stayed and took all that abusive crap so that they did not have to, I always got in front of her when she started on them. Good luck, be strong.
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ShoeboxSherman
I'm with Randude on this one. I finally divorced my nutjob wife three years ago. I've enjoyed those three years so much, that there is absolutely no way I'll ever marry again OR even live with a woman. Just not worth it.
My married friends envy me.
My married friends envy me.
Unionman
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I don't get all this talk about people not being able to see their kids if they leave??? WTF? My wife and I spit and I have my son at the least 50%. Unless they prove you cannot provide a good living space or you are abusive then you have legal right to your son/daughter.
I would suggest splitting up so your child doesn't have to see the fighting going on. Thats more UNhealthy then sticking together and always arguing. The EX can say whatever they want about you to your child, as long as you are in their life a significant amount and spend quality time with him/her, they (the children) are pretty smart and can see that you love and care for them.
Don't sink to that bitches level and bad mouth her just ignore it. I can still remember my mom bad mouthing my dad for leaving even to this day and I'm in my mid 20s. I can also remember my father not saying a single bad thing about my mom. I don't hate him just because she does.
I know its not everyone but I noticed all my friends who have live in girlfriends or boyfriends or husbands/wifes it seems like they are always fighting over something stupid and they really don't seem happy.
Anyways Im done for now. Good luck man k+
I would suggest splitting up so your child doesn't have to see the fighting going on. Thats more UNhealthy then sticking together and always arguing. The EX can say whatever they want about you to your child, as long as you are in their life a significant amount and spend quality time with him/her, they (the children) are pretty smart and can see that you love and care for them.
Don't sink to that bitches level and bad mouth her just ignore it. I can still remember my mom bad mouthing my dad for leaving even to this day and I'm in my mid 20s. I can also remember my father not saying a single bad thing about my mom. I don't hate him just because she does.
I know its not everyone but I noticed all my friends who have live in girlfriends or boyfriends or husbands/wifes it seems like they are always fighting over something stupid and they really don't seem happy.
Anyways Im done for now. Good luck man k+
me and my lady was running parallel to you>> everyday was just putting more and more stress on the kids. i never wanted to not have the kids wit they mom. but in my opinion they is much happier in this situation, specially if you have younger kids it can be very traumatic for them to be exposed to continuous arguments and what not... like my aunty and her husband. they is constantly at each others throat, and i can really feel the pain and unhappiness that eminates from their son. i even talk with my aunty about leaving her husband, but she always says she dont want to do that to her son. and i understand to a degree, but if your creating an incredible hostile and unhappy situation every day, if not constantly for your child, is that really any better than his parents being seperated? just because you dont live together, does not mean that you will never see your kids. id really like to not be in this situation, but you have to make the best of life, and sometimes that means we will have to all stretch a bit to make it work. i can only say this personally, but i believe everyone is much happier in the current situation. maybe one day things will change, but until they do, we can only continue the walk of life.....
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yeah I would have said kill her with a vampire stake or or something but she's not worth it brother - you don't want to be like Scott Peterson locked up 23 hours a day. Get out of there man! Change all you joint accounts to just yours, etc and move and file for divorce and also get a restraining order - say she keeps threatening to kill you or your parents or some weird shit like that.
It's messed up, you can join the service and tie an IED to someone and watch them blow up into a billion pieces from a safe distance, but you can't strangle your wife.... Go figure. Nah some wives are cool. IDK. May the force be with you.
It's messed up, you can join the service and tie an IED to someone and watch them blow up into a billion pieces from a safe distance, but you can't strangle your wife.... Go figure. Nah some wives are cool. IDK. May the force be with you.
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if she looks like this let me know, there's a couple dudes who work at a comic book store on the pier - they know all about this kind of stuff
IE2K, the two of you are playing a game called brinkmanship. Neither of you know just how far the other is willing to sink and pull the other down. Before you do or say anything to your wife, ask yourself would you do it to anyone else? Would you do it with somebody standing there watching you?
If you're gonna leave then do it the right way for your kids and family. I advise you not to go try and find a woman and be with her on the side.. will jsut make things worse in the long run. Leave, then get yourself together and start dating again.. be respectable for your kids and all.
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That is why i dont initiate, continue or persue relationships with psychopaths.
Unionman
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^^^^good point,
Unless she is very crazy and trying to hurt you physicaly, like really hurt you not just a slap or a hit. I would stray away from the restraining order only becasue it makes the switch off with the child more of a pain in the ass if you ask me. My cousin does it that way and its always a bit of a hassle. Belive you me I cannot stand my ex but it seems like its better to just be able to drop him off or she pick him up.
But I think in my case mine is just a bitch and yours maybe psychotic?I def agree with Lola... Get a DNA test... Either way I would walk... Why don't you see if you can make some agreement... See if you can pay her off to take the kid with you... Tell her she can start her life over somewhere else with whoever else and a few dollars in her pocket... She obviously doesn't care about the boy so seeabout that... Don't cheat!!... YET... She will nail you in court for that... Wait until all this is overwith before you go getting into trouble with another woman... Right now she's just unhappy... But if you hurt her ontop of that then she will really burn you...
I had a very similar situation with a girl before... She was perfect at 1st... She moved in and things were good... Then one day she started getting psyco after we came home from vacation... She would start accusing me of cheating and just became sooo jealous... Adventually I ended up cheating on her and she found out!! The girl fucking shot me... And because of who her father was I couldn't call the police or anything... It wasen't how you think... She pointed a gun at me and I grabbed the barrel trying to stop the slide from functioning but when I tried to pull it away since her finger was on the trigger it went off.. So it went through my hand in and out... But who knows she may have killed me.. But even after that, I still loved her... So we tried to make it work..
But guess why she suddenly went psyco one day??? Her friends had her all built up into thinking I was going to propose to her on our vacation... So when the trip was over and her expectations weren't met she lost it... She was so hurt that she started arguements over everything... So adventually I left her but it took me 3 times before she finally went her seperate way... I would get pressure from her family and her friends and she would call me crying all the time... To this day she still sometimes calls me crying when she's all drunk... But what I am getting at is this... When relationships are very passionate there is also a great chance of anger/and hate when things come to an end... She obviously cares on some level.. What you have to do is this... You need to sit down with her and really let her know how you feel... You have to do it without you or her raising your voices and without argueing... If you start 2 argue then immediatly stop and try again another day...
After that happened with me and my x-girl when I finally got home from the doctor we sat down and we talked all night... We talked softly and we cried and it was a scece out of a movie... That's when she told me she was exspecting me to ask her to marry me when we went on vacation... So in her mind she rather me be dead then with another woman... I know it sounds sick but this is how alot of women are... They make every decision based on emtions... Usually when you have a psycotic acting woman she is just a very hurt woman... Or she could just be insane too haha... At the end of the day tho you two need to sit down and communicate like adults and have to agree on splitting up on civil terms...
It won't be easy... Like I told you before it took me 3 attempts before I actually made the break... You might get the same resistance... Usually when a woman threatens to leave like that she is just seeing if you will say "no sweetheart don't leave me I love you." Especially after she threatens to leave and then doesn't... She probabily still loves you and was hurt or dealing with guilt like Lola said... Seriously ask her about your son and also ask her if there is another man...
I had a very similar situation with a girl before... She was perfect at 1st... She moved in and things were good... Then one day she started getting psyco after we came home from vacation... She would start accusing me of cheating and just became sooo jealous... Adventually I ended up cheating on her and she found out!! The girl fucking shot me... And because of who her father was I couldn't call the police or anything... It wasen't how you think... She pointed a gun at me and I grabbed the barrel trying to stop the slide from functioning but when I tried to pull it away since her finger was on the trigger it went off.. So it went through my hand in and out... But who knows she may have killed me.. But even after that, I still loved her... So we tried to make it work..
But guess why she suddenly went psyco one day??? Her friends had her all built up into thinking I was going to propose to her on our vacation... So when the trip was over and her expectations weren't met she lost it... She was so hurt that she started arguements over everything... So adventually I left her but it took me 3 times before she finally went her seperate way... I would get pressure from her family and her friends and she would call me crying all the time... To this day she still sometimes calls me crying when she's all drunk... But what I am getting at is this... When relationships are very passionate there is also a great chance of anger/and hate when things come to an end... She obviously cares on some level.. What you have to do is this... You need to sit down with her and really let her know how you feel... You have to do it without you or her raising your voices and without argueing... If you start 2 argue then immediatly stop and try again another day...
After that happened with me and my x-girl when I finally got home from the doctor we sat down and we talked all night... We talked softly and we cried and it was a scece out of a movie... That's when she told me she was exspecting me to ask her to marry me when we went on vacation... So in her mind she rather me be dead then with another woman... I know it sounds sick but this is how alot of women are... They make every decision based on emtions... Usually when you have a psycotic acting woman she is just a very hurt woman... Or she could just be insane too haha... At the end of the day tho you two need to sit down and communicate like adults and have to agree on splitting up on civil terms...
It won't be easy... Like I told you before it took me 3 attempts before I actually made the break... You might get the same resistance... Usually when a woman threatens to leave like that she is just seeing if you will say "no sweetheart don't leave me I love you." Especially after she threatens to leave and then doesn't... She probabily still loves you and was hurt or dealing with guilt like Lola said... Seriously ask her about your son and also ask her if there is another man...
IE - I have been reading this and following all morning. I almost feel like you are describing my life through very crucial points. I will explain a little. I come from a home where my parents were constantly argueing and tearing each other down. My father would lose his temper and sometimes slap my mother around. I watched that for years growing up as a child. When I was a senior in HS they divorced. By then the damage was done and I was on the path to bad relationships and the cycle of shitty women. My marriage lasted 4 years before my wife had had enuff of me screwing around and yelling at her over the dumbest shit. That was many years ago and many self loathing drinking session later. I am greatful that we didnt have kids at the time. It changed my life when I recognized that it was me and the crazy shit I learned growing up that had me at rock bottom. I went back to my ex and made her understand what it was and why I was such a dick all those years. She forgave me and we have been together ever since.
Now as a CPS social worker I am on a different path but I see your situation each day. Your child is learning everything about relationships and how to treat the oppisite sex based on what they are seeing right now. You have a very bad situation for sure but you must be the adult here. If the relationship is how you actually describe it, you both are just waiting to see who will file for divorce first. It is a standoff and you both are trying to push the other to the edge. Get as much info(dirt) as you can and prepare for the inevitable end. You are not wrong or right in this situation so laying blame will only add layers that cant help. Your child should be the main goal here. The more you can show evidence of her behavior in writing or film the better your chances for a fair heaing. Understand this most important piece tho!*** If you go into any kind of court looking for equality you will not find it!!*** Our courts are designed to side with the mother in cases like yours unless you have complling evidence of her creating bad situations for the child. Not abuse but unfavorable living conditions, screaming, threats to the child, etc... This evidence will only help you and you better believe that witout t you wont have a chance and will be at the mercy of the courts. It sucks to think this way(especially about a woman you obviously loved at one point) but it will only help you and your child. Otherwise they are gonna believe whatever she tells them and you will have no proof otherwise. Sorry for the long post but I feel that pain more than most here could. Good luck to and your baby.
Now as a CPS social worker I am on a different path but I see your situation each day. Your child is learning everything about relationships and how to treat the oppisite sex based on what they are seeing right now. You have a very bad situation for sure but you must be the adult here. If the relationship is how you actually describe it, you both are just waiting to see who will file for divorce first. It is a standoff and you both are trying to push the other to the edge. Get as much info(dirt) as you can and prepare for the inevitable end. You are not wrong or right in this situation so laying blame will only add layers that cant help. Your child should be the main goal here. The more you can show evidence of her behavior in writing or film the better your chances for a fair heaing. Understand this most important piece tho!*** If you go into any kind of court looking for equality you will not find it!!*** Our courts are designed to side with the mother in cases like yours unless you have complling evidence of her creating bad situations for the child. Not abuse but unfavorable living conditions, screaming, threats to the child, etc... This evidence will only help you and you better believe that witout t you wont have a chance and will be at the mercy of the courts. It sucks to think this way(especially about a woman you obviously loved at one point) but it will only help you and your child. Otherwise they are gonna believe whatever she tells them and you will have no proof otherwise. Sorry for the long post but I feel that pain more than most here could. Good luck to and your baby.
You need to talk to a child psychologist on what is worse for a child. It is far worse for him to see you two fighting every day then it would be to see you divorce.
My advice? Have someone come to your house and pretend to buy all of your equipment. Have them take it all with them. Have a friend send someone to get it that she doesn't know so she buys it......That way when you do split she can't hold that over your head. But if you are not going to leave then you need to stop fighting in front of your son....
My advice? Have someone come to your house and pretend to buy all of your equipment. Have them take it all with them. Have a friend send someone to get it that she doesn't know so she buys it......That way when you do split she can't hold that over your head. But if you are not going to leave then you need to stop fighting in front of your son....
I'm sorry to hear about you're pain...indeed that is utter BS! I fight with my wife, but things never get that heated. I suggest filing for divorce you're self, in fact be sure to take notes/document on her phycotic behavior and all the nasty things she has done (ie throwing away you're car title, thretening to leave you if you didn't move) yes most judges will support the mother but if you bring evedence to the court they will likley take it into account.
I had a friend who had his wife attack him (she cheated on him and he called her out on it) he simply held her down to stop the attack but guess who the police came to see....yup him...if she starts to attack you again let her hit you if you have physical evidence of her abusing you or thretnening you (geta video camera) call the police emidetly (spelling?) it will be in you're best interest.
I hope this works out in the end for you, I know it can be a head ache but just keep on keep'n on bro. there is a silver lining at the end of the road.
I had a friend who had his wife attack him (she cheated on him and he called her out on it) he simply held her down to stop the attack but guess who the police came to see....yup him...if she starts to attack you again let her hit you if you have physical evidence of her abusing you or thretnening you (geta video camera) call the police emidetly (spelling?) it will be in you're best interest.
I hope this works out in the end for you, I know it can be a head ache but just keep on keep'n on bro. there is a silver lining at the end of the road.
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