Yellowing of the plant under organic soil

[maryjohn]

Jack, maybe think less in terms of smoothness, and start to think about the different notes you experience as you see/taste/smell. Smoothness is a quality like any other: a matter of preference. I think smoothness is also very dependent on the curing process just like tobacco.

Think about scotch. Not everyone likes a smooth highland malt. I like em complex and peaty, usually from speyside. Same with cigars, wine, cheese, or any other gourmet product.

By manipulating the plant in creative ways, one can bring out certain characteristics, or even uncover new ones.

 

[Microbeman]

I think the yellowing (reddening, purpling) of leaves is a pretty natural response to energy being pushed into the flowers. If the leaves stay green; no big deal. Unless using chems don't worry about what organic compounds/nutrients remain in the soil. Many people think the microbial process takes a long time but the delivery of nutrients through microbial interaction easily occurs overnight and with a presence of active microbes in 30 to 60 minutes. This is all IMO.

According to traditional (chem) garden experts many plants produce bigger nicer flowers when stressed a little (e.g. lack of nutrients/water).

 

[maryjohn]

Microbe,

what i'd like to see is the MJ equivalent of terroir, which is a term spoken of in the wine industry. Good tasters can usually give incredibly accurate guesses of a wine's geographic origins.

If we could find some good ways to bring out specific characteristics by playing with the soil fertility and make-up, we could have even more fun.

 

[thekingofNY]

I've wondered how much yield is affected by this. I've had a few plants yellow prematurely at week 3 or 4 of flower. They loose all their big fans by week 5 (10 week strain). I figure they could get much bigger if they had those fans thru week 8.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Perhaps you've noticed in flowering plants across the kingdom that stressed plants often seem to work harder on reproduction. Often before a plant dies it will flower prolifically.

Why would this not also apply to MJ? Why would a constant nutrient balance, rather than a dynamic cycle, not be expected?

really though, aren't both styles are valid, depending on personal preference? That's the whole point of growing your own.

i think this is key the to it - from my experience in general gardening plants do flower better when slightly stressed - whether it is potbound or running short of N. Plenty of N encourages leafy growth.

also in nature it is likely that the plant will 'expect' to run short of nutrients as the season comes to an end - which is why it readily begins to recycle its own stored nutes from the fan leaves - i'm pretty sure these processes also signal the plant to ripen and finish, throwing everything it has at the flower production. I also find that you get a smoother, more aromatic end product too.

whilst it is somewhat of a theory, it is likely that resin is produced either as a defense mechanim or to attract insects (my pet theory is that cannabis, like most wind pollonated plants, evolved from an insect pollinated plant and that the resin is a throwback to when it was trying to attract insects) either way, if the plant 'senses' that time is getting short then it is likely to produce more resin for either reason.

in short, it's about encouraging an annual plant to finish it's life-cycle and be pretty much dead/dying when harvested.

V.

 

[UnknownProphet]

Question for the pros...

Question for the pros...

I was going to start a thread, but I searched here and found this somewhat relative to my question so I though I'd ask here and hopefully someone experienced can chime in...

I'm growing 5 NYCD (SOMA seeds) organically outdoors. They were started inside and harden off correctly. Never feed until being outside for more than a few weeks. When I did eventually feed them they were fed extremely light to start with a gradual up bringing to full dosage. In the ground, the soil mix I used was power flower, perlite, granular mycorrhizal, and coco. They are beasts at a little more than 6 ft and stretching. They are all about 3 weeks into flower and 3 of 5, which seem Sativa dominant, are beginning to yellow and loose their larger fan leaves. The other two have yellowing leaves aswell, but much less and at the bottom, so I figure those are fine.

Anyways I have a pretty good grasp of outdoor growing and am just trying to perfect my technique and learn from others. I don't think I could actually ever get it perfect, but I want a wide variety of experience and what better place to go searching then here at good ol' IC?

So I already did a little fix up job earlier tonight by adding the most miniscule amount of grow nutrients. I was wondering if this was an ok idea, I don't see why not because of such a small amount. What I used was from "The Guano Company" Super Tea Liquid...it's NPK rates are at 0.05-0.10-0.02 (how is that possible btw?) I used only about 1&1/2 tsp for two gallons and let it sit in filtered water for 24hrs.


Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks in advance.



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[maryjohn]

man I've always let outdoor grows find their own food with a little help at the start, out of paranoia. Also avoided perlite as it speaks volumes when found at a site. In the ground though, drainage has not been a problem for me because of geopgraphy. If you have the luxury of feeding them, that's great, and your fertilizer sounds harmless. You could skip the 24 hours in water though.

as for the yellowing, don't worry abut it. I just had some blue burmese yellow at 3 weeks or so, and I gave it a teeny bit of hydrolyzed fish. I'm not sure if it did anything other than slow down the yellowing, but the buds are up there with the best I've had. Can't believe they came from cfl lights.

sounds like a good way to use up your product, which you can replace with something cheaper and more simple next time around if you like. garden stores instead of grow stores is the key.

 

[UnknownProphet]

thanks maryjohn, it's appreciated

 

[JackTheGrower]

I haven't grown cannabis outside but I believe it's a different fish ( like your sick Avatar btw LOL ) and I wouldn't worry so much with guano..

I'd feel fine top dressing and applying Teas in reasonable amounts since the sky is the limit outside..

Still is there a need to feed when all it is doing is ripening? Doubt it.'
As for any excess.. hell water the ground and dilute it..

I wish I could grow outside but these freaky neighbors scare me..