TRIMMING FAN LEAVES DAYS BEFORE WACK

[buddah]

okay how did a serious test....please step up!!!!


I will do it...but my next grow will starts not untill November!!!

in my guess a healthy trim is need form some strains...but not mutch a few for more light and against mold and a few sick ones!!!

I have a friend how trimmed not one upper leave from some big bushes!!
Long story short end....Mold and a mutch lower field!!!!

 

[antimatter]

its easier to trim the plants if you remove them all before harvest.

 

[buddah]

but isnt it easier to trimm the fan after harvesting....its much easie to handel as the plant are still in the plot

 

[antimatter]

but isnt it easier to trimm the fan after harvesting....its much easie to handel as the plant are still in the plot

I mean the big leaves + stem that you would normally remove just before trimming all your sugar leaves, it goes alot faster trimming those big stemmy fan leaves while the plant is still standing.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

So many people remove fan leaves early, why is that? The reasons for not doing it are obvious, what are the pros? Faster drying? Less final color, taste and weight? Even faster drying doesn't sound good to me because I know slow is better and the big fan leaves do a great job of slowing the drying.

I recently convinced a few local growers to stop precutting fan leaves. It was easy because they want their weed to taste like mine. Both reported a big increase in flavor, smell, color and final bud quality. I'd say the issue was settled. Try it, you'll see.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

It's the other way aound,you wan't the plant to convert carbohydrates to sugars i.e. think sweet leaf

You don't want either.. carbs are just complex sugars anyway.

The point is to have as few as possible compounds in the buds at harvest. This is one reason to harvest after the dark cycle. The plant eats its sugar overnight.

 

[Ripshot]

The only time i cut fan leaves is the day before harvest only to make things easier when I do chop them down. Alot of my fan leaves on my grows yellow and drop off anyway in the final weeks.

I cut most of the leaves that I dont want in my trim pile indoors. anything that wont be used to make hash. its much easier to just leave them at the site, less garbage to get rid of.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Ok, I can understand cutting them early for a wilderness outdoor grow to lighten the load, but that's the only reason. Think about it. If you've ever cut a leaf stem and tasted the sap, you know it has a taste. When the plant dries, it tries to keep the buds alive longest, so everything else 'dumps' it's sap through the buds as they dry. First the sunleaves dry, then the petiols and stalks. All that sap travels to the buds before finally losing it's moisture and leaving the minerals and various smells and tastes in the bud. If you chop sunleaves early, you pass up on all those extra taste and smell elements.

 

[antimatter]

"Pruning all depends on how closely your growing them together and how much shade is on the flowers. don't let any of your flowers get shaded. lollipop around days 12 to 16, and prune around day 14 to 16 and again around day 30 to 35. Sometimes if they are shading again prune a bit near the end too around day 45 to 55 if they need it again."

We want all the buds to be dense not fluffy colas/popcorn, want flavor and taste grow organic. Sugar leaves photosynthesize just fine those big fan leaves get in the way.

 

[dongle69]

Yeah if you don't remove some fan leaves on a strain like GDP, you end up with only the tops being nice, with a whole ton of wispy lime green crap underneath.
I start pulling some off around 2 weeks in and yield and quality go up.
But to the original post, yes, removing the fan leaves before wack is a great method.

 

[mrred]

im gooing try mr.greengenes way next harvest, i've been told what hes talkng about before, just basiicly cut the plant at the stem and hang it upside down so all the sap and good stuff goes into the buds

 

[dub 6]

im gooing try mr.greengenes way next harvest, i've been told what hes talkng about before, just basiicly cut the plant at the stem and hang it upside down so all the sap and good stuff goes into the buds

bump that.. i dried two clones of the same plant side by side, one a proper trimming of all fan leaves and some bud leaves, and one i left intact only to remove all leaves when it was time to jar. while hanging, the one with all leaves on smelled way better when u lift up a fan leaf. it seems the fan leaves trapped all that good stuff in.

its painstaking to trim, but i think it betters the taste. and plus u get some nice finger and scissor hash.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

All of the good stuff is on the outside of the buds. All of the terpenes and esters (responsible for the flavor and odor) and the cannabinoids are located in the capitate stalked trichome head. The "sap" is nothing but nutrition to the plant.

 

[Bedlamite]

I've trimmed some fan leaves off of this one twice and am about ready to trim some more. It has 5 main stalks. When it was about 8 inches tall the pot was tipped over and broke the stem off at the point where the edge of the pot hit it. The root portion died, having nothing left but a short stem. I put some hormone on the upper part and rerooted it. The top died back, and then recovered with the 5 stems. It is now just shy of 8 feet tall.
I ask her which leaves to take off. She tells me. When a fan leaf has no bud, but a major side branch, I see no reason to leave it on. It tends to get very crowded in the middle with the leaves from several separate branches running into each other. I have noticed much increased growth of secondary branches and the beginnings of tertiary branches when the light has a chance to reach them. I am unconcerned about popcorn buds, I expect nothing else from the tertiaries. Besides the 5 main buds, there is about 150 secondaries, and who knows? maybe over 1000 tertiaries.
The little stick in the branches is 12" long to give you an idea of scale
I really think taking off some of the fans is fine, depending on the plant and the situation.

For those of you who wish you could grow legally in your yard like I do, be warned!
Be careful what you wish for.
I drove head-on into a Maple tree in order to qualify for a medical card. I don't recommend it.

 

[Bedlamite]

Same plant. On the stem on the right you can see that some of the big fans are gone and the secondaries are growing better.

 

[Bedlamite]

I guess I made it sound like I hit the tree on purpose. no no no.
I got hit broadside by someone driving the wrong way on a one-way street and bounced off the road into the tree. They didn't see the red light they were running, because the lights were turned around the other way.

 

[OG savatage]

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