What to feed for seed?

[JackTheGrower]

Being lazy and slow today I'm wondering what organic materials I should feed for plants that will be producing seed?

Or even what to avoid.

Any thoughts?

 

[RockyMountainHi]

I'd have to say a healthy shot of pollen will be a priority.

 

[JackTheGrower]

I'd have to say a healthy shot of pollen will be a priority.

That's not my job.. I'm the soil food provider..

LOL

 

[jaykush]

just keep doing what your doing and let them mature well. some say certain trace minerals have effect on seed health.

 

[VerdantGreen]

they need a steady source of everything including trace elements - so seaweed and balanced ferts would be good.

 

[maryjohn]

verdant beat me to it. K is the important macro nutrient.

but I don't think you need to do anything special. plenty of growers get them by accident and get plenty of them.

 

[s13sr20det]

Phosphorus

 

[habeeb]

seaweed and rock dusts I say as my opinion as that will include all trace minerals except like gold and silver

I red somewhere what seed production takes more of but don't remember at all

 

[maryjohn]

K. I believe seed production requires more K. I'm out on a limb, refusing to look it up.

somebody correct me!

 

[JackTheGrower]

Alright I'll micronize some greensand and add to the next top dressing..

I'm sure there is K in there but more aimed at bud development.

Going to add Azomite and Sea bird high P to it as well..


They are so peaceful in there.. I had to cut back hard on them and now it looks so calm on the growth.. The stalks are developed and now the branches are growing out from lower sites.. So calm so nice..
It was a mad mad race before.

Last night at lights out they transpired and their smell was cherry..

I have noticed that plants do that.. There is a surge of fragrance when the lights go out.
The genetics I grew before were more strawberry but these are seriously sweet cherry.

So thanks.. They are getting the love here and with all of your comments they are getting your love too.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

This is such a cool subject. I've noticed that sometimes the seeds seem to steal nutrients from the bud, giving light colored interfloral leaflets. I assume that is because there are non mobile nutrients involved. I think it takes quite a bit of energy for the plant to ripen even 50 seeds, much less thousands like would result from a 'baptisation' style pollination. Fully ripening fewer seeds on lower branches results in bigger, harder shelled seeds that store longer and 'pop' with greater vigor.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Thanks Mr Greengenes

I may have both situations since flower development time is skewed on "The Doctor" I just found out.

 

[JackTheGrower]

I fed them enough I do believe. Link

 

[neongreen]

Hey Jack,

If you want seeds, look at what's in seeds.

I found this...

Minerals in 100g Sterilized Hemp Seeds

Sodium 0.02 mg
Calcium 1.7 mg
Magnesium 6.1 mg
Phosphorus 8.3 mg
Potassium 6.2 mg
Iron 0.18 mg
Zinc 0.08 mg

http://www.hemphasis.com/protein.htm

More detailed analysis here too:
http://www.chii.ca/hemp-seed/hempseed.html

Seems like Phosphorus, Potassium and Magnesium are all very important.

I think I may have to sprinkle some more lime around mine having read that. ...and nearly time to break out the high P bat shit I think

 

[JackTheGrower]

The Brown rice flour is da Snitz..

I'm all good then.. That's a smart thing neongreen..

This layer of materials should be available in about 5 to 7 days and it should be enough..

Cool.. And Cool post!

 

[NOYB]

K. I believe seed production requires more K. I'm out on a limb, refusing to look it up.

somebody correct me!

You are correct. A friend is a breeder and has always emphasized adequate K for bean production. K-Mag is a great source and you 'should' have a bit of that in a soil mix anyway. You need that in real early cause it takes awhile to break down. I've always put it in the bottom of the containers. For reference it's very alkaline.

He also said Liquid Karma is great to include for soil grows...especially when making beans.

 

[neongreen]

The Brown rice flour is da Snitz..

I'm all good then.. That's a smart thing neongreen..

This layer of materials should be available in about 5 to 7 days and it should be enough..

Cool.. And Cool post!

I found that the BRF/lime mix that I sprinkled around mine before turned to the consistency of dried concrete once it went through a wet dry cycle.

I think next time I'll try mixing it into the water first!

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

About fifteen years ago, I had a few seedbatches lose germ rates in only about two years. I was storing them pretty well, and other older batches were still good, so I knew I'd done something wrong. Thinking back, I decided that it was during a period when I ran out of the Bandini Oyster shell ag lime. I was also aware of the idea of better nutrient uptake at lower PH's, and thought to try to go without. I had the usual problems one has without lime and went back to using it. I don't necessarily think it was just some nutrient in the oyster shell that made the seeds shells harder, or whatever. It could just as easily been the lower general health of the plants caused by hot nutrients and PH swings without the lime to buffer the mix. Sorry, no conclusion, just thoughts.

 

[NOYB]

A friend said organically fed seeds store better.

 

[masterKahn]

I was about to freak out thinking this was another thread of someone asking what to feed their new born seedling, glad I read it as I will be dusting some ladies with pollen soon.

Great info all THANKS!