BC and Burnone are right, it doesn't need much. I like to cut is with 20% perlite, 10% EWC and 30% or so Promix or Coir depending on how hot the bag is (I found it to vary a bit). I had some Phosphorus deficiencies once so I also throw in 1-2 tbsp of either bone meal or high P guano (Jamaican etc.). Also 1-2 tbsp dolomite and you should be all set. Adding all this makes an awesome mixture, cheapens the soil mix and helps stretch the bag a bit further at the same time.
-bakelite
Pretty much.With all that extra work that a "stock" bag of FFOF takes, wouldn't it just make more sense to mix your own soil from scratch?
With all that extra work that a "stock" bag of FFOF takes, wouldn't it just make more sense to mix your own soil from scratch?
I have no problems spending 20$ to grow 1500$ worth of weed.
industry, with it's misleading labels and boutique pricing is raping this community.
For the record, I bought enough to make 8-10 bags of FFOF and paid about $120 for the ingredients.
I don't see any reason for these kinds of comments. If it's not worth the extra 5 bucks a bag to you thats your choice..... Is it really that excessive for all the drama?
Personally, I use the cheaper soils because of the amount I use, and the fact I have to drive a hundred miles to get the FF. But there are times I get sick of picking out big chunks of wet bark, sticks and rocks that come along with the cheaper soils.
uh oh
edit:ffof is 12$ at my hydro store, i like using it for plants before they go into their final pots because it feeds and plants thrive with just water, makes it easy to just water while plants are youngins. its premium stuff, but quality isnt consistant :/
With all that extra work that a "stock" bag of FFOF takes, wouldn't it just make more sense to mix your own soil from scratch?
I know that I'm responding to something pretty early in this thread, but your success with FFOF without amendment depends a bit on your nutrients and water supply. I started off using FFOF unamended (okay, I added a bit of perlite for drainage, but nothing else) and I had major cal/mag and pH issues. I have been adding dolomite since then and it cleared them up. My water has very little magnesium and only a small amount of calcium, so I have to add it one way or another - using dolomite which has the added bonus of pH buffering seems like a pretty good way to do so. Part of my issue was that I was using the FF nutes which are not pH stable. I was pHing the water and then adding the nutes, because I thought that was what you were supposed to do and dropped the pH to the point of lockout.FFOF doesn't need to be mixed with anything. It is already 25% perlite by volume and contains crushed oyster shells for PH buffering. It also has quano, casthings, kelp, and all sorts of other stuff people routinely add to soil mixes.
I have used it for 5-years. When I started using it I mixed it with perlite and dolomite lime, based on what most other people where doing in the the forums. I started experimenting with using it right out of the bag and found that it produced results that were just as good for me and was easier to use (less watering, less feeding, and no soil mixing).
Pine