spinosad, How does it work.

[baet]

i know people that have used it 4 weeks into flower. theres coments about it on the sticky on thrips in the infermery, thats all im saying, i wouldnt do it. but its a natural product created from fermentation. and omri listed.
Spinosad must be ingested by the insect, therefore it has little effect on sucking insects and non-target predatory insects. Spinosad is relatively fast acting. The pest insect dies within 1 to 2 days after ingesting the active ingredient. Will not persist in the environment. Sunlight and soil microbes break it down into carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. the bee must ingest it, which means if sprayed ona flower that a bee would harvest pollen from, then yes it would probably die. a cannabis plant, most likely notimo

edit: if used a month before harvest, it would have broken down before consumption.

 

[nomaad]

so up to two to four weeks seems cool. great information. if i am going to do a prophylactic application of this, I would have to do it soon. i am going to do as much research as possible on this before my weekly trip to the grow shop for odds and ends.

 

[nephilthim]

found jms stylet oil for 79.99 2.5 gal at organicgrowing .if anyone know good site for the oil, or spinosad,please contribute as I am lnternet link posting impaired.hell I found floramite for 259 a quart from a rose growing site
FLOROMITE! damn that shit works!! dead!! insect armegeddon i didnt see apider mite for 2 months after I sprayed that stuff and I ve got enough that the quart will probably be half used by the time im dead.app rates are ridicously lite 1 teaspoon for lite inffestation per gal up to 2 teaspoon for heavy.
here her on the jms stlyet post omri rated safe mineral oil effective for powdery mildew which I have small prob with

 

[baet]

Fvck! i think i have spider mites actually. spinosad still bueno tho. but i guess theyre WAY harder to get rid of.

 

[Blue Dot]

Spinosad (monterey brand) has been the most effective caterpillar killer for me.

It breaks down with UV light (Spray in late afternoon/evening if warm).

It definately kills bees (= bad).

I'm not convinced about it's safety although the LD50 is ridiculously high (meaning it is not very potent [to humans]).

Interesting chem that I'm still on the fence about.

 

[baet]

blue dot, do you have experience using it with spider mites?

 

[its420]

I'll die of something else WAY b4 I die of smoking something after using an OMRI listed product rated for use the day of harvest.
Come on, both Monterrey garden spray -spinosad and azatrol- made from neem seed extract are OMRI listed.
They both work very well and I alternate the two all thru a grow up to week 3. After that If i see bugs, and I just did find a couple fucking mites at week 6, they get sprayed with a 50/50 mix of H2O & rubbing alcohol- has to be 90%+

honestly for the fuckin caterpillars its best to feed the BTi stuff thru the roots now b4 buds start

but just spraying azatrol and spinosad proactive/preventatively for mites n thrips n such is VERY smart
theres little risk of killing bees indoors

 

[coxswain]

I'm not worried about the bees.

Edit:
And I didn't ment that in general. Was trying to say I'm worried about me smoking spinosad on my MJ. Bees are very very important!

 

[baet]

edit.

 

[baet]

its 420, how effecient is the monterey spray spinosad on mites? im outdoor. will it effectively take them all out, does it kill the eggs in the soil? i only have two or three 1.5' plants infested. and a 4' too, shit. i dont want them to spread to big plants.



EDIT: mites are sneaky fvckrs. i have spider mites all ofa sudden on a bagseed that is much bigger than the clones and is frmo seed, that never had mites. mites came from the clones, right. get this i put the clone on top of the bagseed pot, resting on the soil next to the bagseed plant for a day to get more sun.. well i guess they traveled and set up camp on the bagseed

 

[coxswain]

its 420, how effecient is the monterey spray spinosad on mites? im outdoor. will it effectively take them all out, does it kill the eggs in the soil? i only have two or three 1.5' plants infested. and a 4' too, shit. i dont want them to spread to big plants.



EDIT: mites are sneaky fvckrs. i have spider mites all ofa sudden on a bagseed that is much bigger than the clones and is frmo seed, that never had mites. mites came from the clones, right. get this i put the clone on top of the bagseed pot, resting on the soil next to the bagseed plant for a day to get more sun.. well i guess they traveled and set up camp on the bagseed

You think you are the one with problems? J/K
Check out my zoo.

 

[baet]

geesus. yeah, ive actually been reading your thread, trying to pick up on some info. fvck man, i hope you get a hold on em, kill em all.
you indoor, outdoor, how close to flower?

really takes the normal paranoia ofa grow(maybe im just paranoid about the evernearing doom of my plants) up a fvcking notch! ha

 

[Blue Dot]

mites came from the clones, right.

Huh? Mites come from the AIR, just like every other insect.

They just come faster when physically introducing them through a carrier.

And No, I have no experience with spinosad on mites although I would love to hear a conclusive answer to that question.

 

[baet]

it wasnt a question. i know bugs dont come from plants... :/

i was saying the mites came from the clones, as in traveled on the clones, and then said right

 

[coxswain]

geesus. yeah, ive actually been reading your thread, trying to pick up on some info. fvck man, i hope you get a hold on em, kill em all.
you indoor, outdoor, how close to flower?

really takes the normal paranoia ofa grow(maybe im just paranoid about the evernearing doom of my plants) up a fvcking notch! ha

Only my male C99s are indoor. The rest is outdoor. I've found some mites on my balcony C99 ladies. My guerilla plants seem to be the healthiest.

 

[baet]

yeah, the O.G. plants, from seed, outdoor have no bug problems, or signs of bugs, the stupid infested clones are plagued

 

[coxswain]

yeah, the O.G. plants, from seed, outdoor have no bug problems, or signs of bugs, the stupid infested clones are plagued

My C99 are from seed and majority of fest are on them. There really is no rule. You can get infected from "civilian" plants as well.

 

[Bulldog11]

Wow, now I am really confused.

To answer some questions, the year before I was using Safer Brand Caterpiller Killer as a prevenative measure and still got hit hard.

I am outdoors and I think I am in about week 4 maybe? Hard to tell outdoors, some are only in week 1 or 2 and some may still be in veg. I think I am going to run to the nursery today and pick up some Safer brand for the ladies that are a little more mature and then some of the good shit for the ladies that don't really have any flowers on it. I think I may also buy enough to spray all around my back yard. If the bee's die then they die. =(. I am shooting for a harvest where 90% of the harvest is salvaged.

Anybody think that this is going to be a bad or good idea please speak up. Thanks for all the help people, may good karma be spread around to all.

 

[MajLeeStoned]

Spinosad or BT for caterpillars

Spinosad or BT for caterpillars

Use Spinosad or BT if you had a caterpillar problem and that problem will be solved. BT is cheaper but is a bit stinky.

 

[Highlighter]

I use the monterey garden insect spray, only thing that fully got rid of thrips for me. Good stuff.