Recommend me a Thai

[G-life]

The idea for my breeding project is

Round one - to outcross my DJ short gear with some sativa's similar to the heritage sativa's DJ used, in an open pollination with my DJ males. This will be round one of making a bunch of seeds.

For round 2 the sativas will be allowed to open pollinate each other for another bucket of seeds and all sorts of possibilities of unique hybrids

Very very best of luck to you. I've been working a scary similar program with a few friends. However I decided to include gypsy's thai along with billgoats' thai and replaced the s.american with a jamaican.
I'm curious. Have you considered using DJ mamas also as a parent in your program? Do your males have any experience or is this their first time?

 

[smoke1sun]

Oriental Express

Genes: E-32 Trainwreck x Thai
Flower Time: 8-9 weeks
Yield: average-good
Indoor/Outdoors

Oriental Express is a cross started back in 2002. She is a combinations of the famous E-32 Arcata Train Wreck with a nice Thai stud. The Thai father is from seeds supplied from a friend who sourced them directly out of Thailand, so no skunk or other Holland genes in this Thai's back ground. The father of this cross is a true male and no signs of being a hermaphrodite, but with Thai genes and back ground. There is still a slight chance of a hermaphrodite popping up. In the following generations. Any and all hermaphrodite or weak plants where weeded out. Nothing but good and true strong plants where used in the next generation. This lines future will be one of a IBL. The makeup is Arcata Trainwreck x Thai.

OE, tends to lean on the Trainwreck side of the cross. You will see the same bud formation and lanky stems. The smell ranges from the famous citrus smell to spicy/coco smell. Watch out for those Thai pheno's also. They can and will grow through the roof. You will see them from the start. Just cut them back, by topping. Once you place them into the flower room and flip the lights to 12/12. Top one more time and you should be good to go. You will have nice tops and a bushy plant that can yield nicely.

I just started some of these, but i also want ace's version also.

 

[masterKahn]

strange ... nobody mentioned Destroyer by CannaBioGen ... , Bankok Betty sounds awesome as well ...

lots of people mentioned Destroyer and as a result it just made my list of strains to get

 

[hoosierdaddy]

If anyone has worked with Thais, it's SamSkunkman. His Othai hazexskunk is nothing like a skunk. It is thai haze that might actually finish.

 

[Kush_Master]

How about: wild thailand ~ Pure landrace coming from the islands of Ko Chang (Thailand).
http://www.charliesthaisilk.co.uk/seedsworldof.php

if its teh same sativa i smoked on koh phangan then you should deffo get this.
ranks under the best weed i ever smoked. awesome that they offer seeds for it!

should be a bitch to grow out tho

 

[bigbag]

-Thai Lights(nakhon pathom thai x northern lights)Dr.Atomic

 

[DocLeaf]

Super Silver Haze smokes much like the Thai we grew up with (less like Haze) IMO,,

Hope this helps

 

[bosshoggin]

yeah the guy pretending to be lil wayne i ll take 2 of those

out of all the strains listed i would have to disagree,i have a skunk mag tht decibes destroyer n it dosent say anything bout being thai related.
also u want something indoor adaptable, correct?
at least 75% thai-i got u

chocolpoe or d-line same strain from dna genetics-90%o.g choclate thai
call em up ask for your self-believe it was bred wit cannalope.
thy describe the taste as extremely chocolate.hope no disrespect was takein all great strains but i like ths one cause it tops out at 4 feet -my experience,25-40 grms per plnt .hope ths helps
peace n over grow

 

[OjoRojo420]

THAI LIGHTS from Dr. Atomic:

2nd Generation Thai Lights, shorter, faster and bigger yields with that great Thai Haze profile.

From Nakan Pranom in northeast Thailand come these great Thai genetics.

Also known as Thai stick and Buddha Grass, was hybridized with Dr. Atomic's Northern Lights. Sweet, smooth, and uplifting cerebral high. This bud will energize and enlighten you. Novice smokers beware!

Flowering Time: Indoor 9 - 11 weeks
Approx Yield: up to 60g per plant
Lineage: Northern Lights, Thai Haze

 

[headfortrinity]

Dutch Passion Voodoo

IC Strainguide DP Voodoo

I'm growing this right now it's in veg and looking nice.

 

[Fuzz420]

yeah the guy pretending to be lil wayne i ll take 2 of those

out of all the strains listed i would have to disagree,i have a skunk mag tht decibes destroyer n it dosent say anything bout being thai related.
also u want something indoor adaptable, correct?
at least 75% thai-i got u

chocolpoe or d-line same strain from dna genetics-90%o.g choclate thai
call em up ask for your self-believe it was bred wit cannalope.
thy describe the taste as extremely chocolate.hope no disrespect was takein all great strains but i like ths one cause it tops out at 4 feet -my experience,25-40 grms per plnt .hope ths helps
peace n over grow

Destroyer
Breeder : Canna BioGen
Flowering Time : 8 - 12 Weeks
Environment : Indoor / Outdoor
Seeds Per Pack : 5

This 100% Sativa strain is a cross of Meao Thai and an early and stable Mexico/Colombia. The exceptional backcross of two of our best females took over 7 years. The total acclimatization of the mother Thai has been so difficult that we decided to introduce an earlier Sativa, as well as productive, and add its characteristics.
The result is a strain which represents the state-of-the-art of Sativa with an exotic predominance of Thai.
The small and numerous bracteas are covered with a big amount of trichomes full of THC, carrying even 92 trichomes in some bracteas by mm2.
Environmental conditions should be rather dry during bloom and with nutrients level quite low, specially nitrogen.
Flowering period is from 8 to 12 weeks depending of growing conditions.
Medium/high yield outdoors and some less in indoors. Suitable with grows using SOG and SCROG techniques.

Seems like there is plenty of thai in destroyer. I personally just received some mist of destruction bx seeds from the bay kalimist x(kalimist x destroyer) 50% kalimist 50% destroyer. I cant wait to get them going should be som thai in there somewhere

 

[medicine_man_bc]

please reconsider the juicy fruit. it is one of the most superior performers in yield and vigor, but fuck man, after an ounce and immunity hits. it would be better as a double afgahn backcross. for more unique to europe thai, dr atomics "thai lights" is crack on a stick. very medicinal for a sativa( for pain). it would be a connoisseur pick. ive smoked the thaitanic as mention above, it was dynamite too. if you do go with ssb jf, make sure u cross with a top shelfer, you would then have a powerhouse line.

 

[Asiatica]

Asiatica the strain from Billygoat is not Orient Express, is Oriental Express, Trainwreck x Thai. Orient Express is a strain from ACE seeds, Vietnam Black x China Yunnan.


If you are searching for Thai genes; you must try Cannabiogen Destroyer, a 100% Sativa hybrid without indica genes; Meao Thai x Mexico/Colombia, mainly worked more into the Meao Thai side, very electric and high psicodelic high.

Salud

Thanks for pointing that out.
Post has been corrected.

 

[floydfanx6]

do NOT buy the wos wild thai,,,wos lies,,me an my freind grew the wild thai from wos,,they lie about what they have ,my plant was a skunk that finished 65 days no thai in it all,wos-world of shit

 

[Chamba]

If you are into really wanting the total "Thai Experience" as a grower and smoker, then please grow Thai, not some watered down approximation!, otherwise, what's the point eh?

Buy strains on offer which are proven landrace seeds or hybrids that contain 50% real Thai genes, not 50% of a Dutched Thai.

Search each strain here on IC mag and see which strains suit your needs and will get you high.

I used to grow only Thais outdoors in the late 80's and early 90's in the sub tropics for personal smoke.....but this was from brick weed...most of which was not that great, but got you high, some were good, but every now and then one would be really outstanding.

I haven't grown out GN's Thai or his other Sth East Asian strains or Sam's Thai/Skunk, but these are the ones I would buy and grow. The rest of the strains with Thai in them that are mentioned in this thread I haven't looked into or are really just not a consideration, but I'm sure are fine hybrids that will get you high, but might not give you that early 70's Thai Stick high.

and btw you can grow Thais indoors, not easily, but it can be done, so long as you train them down, then keep on training them down everyday etc etc, it's not easy, but can be done ...if patience might be a problem then of course devote just a corner to the Thais and the other 3/4 of your space to 8 week finishers so in the meantime you'll have some smoke and you can really let her finish fully.

I also once grew some Thai seeds and other Dutchies under fluorescents tubes.....all seedlings and culled lots of males, hermies, etc but one Thai, a little runt, had the best high I've ever smoked. Tripped out buszzing and everything had a cartoonish glow to it. I still vividly remember walking outside my house and into the sunshine and this wonderful feeling coming on. Stupidly I didn't revegg her as I was sure I'd find 100 more like her, but of course didn't. I don't have many regrets in life, but that was one of them.

I read online a lot that many Haze and other Equatorial strain breeders recommend to discard the seedlings that take over X amount of weeks to finish flowering and to concentrate on the faster finishers. I know this is for outdoor growers with frostly winters, but for indoors, I couldn't disagree more. The best highs I got from any tropical strain I grew was never the earliest finisher. If you can't grow Thais outdoors then build a glasshouse or don't grow them outdoors and disappointed ..or grow them indoors and control them as best you can.

Also keep in mind that many Thai smoke reports you read now are based on plants that have obviously been harvested a month or two too early, you can tell by the photos of the bud and the speedy, caffieney high they describe. The stuff that trips you out may take 20, 25 or more weeks of flowering (that's once the plant actually fully triggers into flowering mode that is!)

If you make the decision to grow Thai, then do it but don't pick it early, pick it about a month or more after you think it's ready which by then it should have dropped most of it's leaves and there hasn't been any new flower growth for a few weeks. Many would regard this as way too late, but the difference between picking a tropical land race at 23 weeks or 18 weeks is like the difference in the high between harvesting a 10 week strain at 6 weeks, you'll get high n@ 6 wks, but it will be half as good or less than the complexity, strength and duration from the same plant harvested at 10 weeks.

The early 70''s Thai Stick "legend" you've read about was not from early picked plants, thats for sure! The "legend" was not a speedy, clear buzz, it was strong, heavy and trippy.

.....I wish I had Sam's Thai/Skunk and GN's two Thai/Lao/Kampuchean strains as well instead of 80's and early 90's brick weed seeds to grow and crosses I made. In those days, a kilo of Thai contained 20% ~ 30% seed by weight and another 20% in stem, I remember Sam wrote here that he used to spend hours searching through kilos of Thai Stick in the 70's just to try and find a few seeds. I'm pretty sure that Sam's Thai genes came from those legendary 70's Thai sticks ..I'm sure many of the other Thai crosses are more recent which means they might be mostly pure or more likely, watered down or from contaminated genes.

....Chok-Dee Krrrruuuup!

 

[tjmccoy]

Thanks again for posting up these recomendations. I'm short on time 'working' today to reply in detail as I would like. I agree Destroyer sounds killer and a mexi thai hybrid is what I want to make but I want to use Chimera's Highland Mex & purple panama for the mex side I was thinking about the wild Thailand but I'm a bit hesitant. Mama Thai sounds like what I'm looking for, pure thai yet worked is what I gather.

I cant find any grow reports on the mama thai. Anyone have details on the heritage. I was hoping to have a more lowland thai head similar to the choc thai.

Very very best of luck to you. I've been working a scary similar program with a few friends. However I decided to include gypsy's thai along with billgoats' thai and replaced the s.american with a jamaican.
I'm curious. Have you considered using DJ mamas also as a parent in your program? Do your males have any experience or is this their first time

?

G-line, be sure to post up some details of your project. The males have not been tested but I think their pretty narrowed down they are a cross of f13 and blue moonshine selected from my 2 best f13 mama's. One line is green flo dominate, the other is purple flo / mex dominate, Both lines are extremely resinous and potent. Theres 4 males of these and I'm going to let them all pollinate. So even though they are not tested I'm pretty sure theres lots of good things locked up in them. Taking them into a more sativa structure I think is going to make some killer herb and carry on the work I've already done on these.

got-a go later

 

[ElectroSticky]

5. classic thai head, flavor, experience ....

hi there ... i would go with GN-Khmer Gold , its a cambodian but thailand and cambodia are not to far away ...

 

[medicine_man_bc]

wierd, i was just gona say that combodia, thai and laos all share fairly same tastes and high, nice one. oxaca??? in mexico has some of the bombest 'thai' ive sampled, and i lived in holland for a year.

 

[Dalaihempy]

I have seen so many offer aleged thia yet there flowering times are just not real for true thia genetics.

My advice would be look at real seed co who offers real thia genetics or GN here and if you realy seek a practicle thia or clean sat high look into mangohaze by shanti.

I have also found a km plant that smokes just like an old school thia would but that was from very old km not whats on offer now but it comes down to reality if you realy whant a true thia then expect a long long time flowering with good smoke with not so good bag apeal.

 

[Asiatica]

Bangkok Betty from BillyGoat seeds is his worked Thai line. This is crossed to the Arcata Trainwreck to make Oriental Express. He should have some more of these done at the end of the year.

Peace,

Mota

Thanks for the clarification.
Ill be on the lookout.