is a 12 gallon pot good enough for a 15 foot tall plant?
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Coco might be what your looking for. My hydro shop guy recommended organicare earth moisture control, I've been using it for a few months now and I really like it. A nice blend of soil and coco, not much nutes in it, but you can buy a bag of pure fertilizer for $6 and mix it in to the strength you want.
beer batter
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damb the coco, i use 30 gallon black nursery bags. well 1 this year but ill get well over a pound if it comes to hearvest, compost from local nursery and the soil is happy frog with kelp meal and dr earth starter fertilizer mixed in also a small bag of perlite from the hydro shop and 3gallons or soo of varmaculite (omri listed, ospestos free) i got a huge bag of that stuff to mix with my veggi soil and my 4ft x 15ft ganja row and some flower boxes -mostly to ratain water cause of the drought situation but i still irrigate for aslong as i did last year ,well -longer, last year it was for only 10 so i also give palnts more fertilizer with that extra 5min -it shows cause their biger for sure this year. the local nursery sompost contained alfalfa as does dr earth starter fertilizer. i know theas are cheep at less then 3 bucks per bag, they ship flat and are reuseable for a few seasons. the 30gal bag is anough for a pound a plant sure but the master kush from california bean bank still has a wilting point if not irrigated for her 15min 5am every day -sometimes i witch the timer over to check the shublers opperating condition and adjust as needed -dont allways remember to switch it back to 15min and allways do the next day. their was only 1 time she got realy week and i had to water her and mist her a few times intermitanly to re-hydrate, sprung right back into action just hours later and now i know better. i think it depends on your fertilizer if you want to feed every day or not -fox farm and roots organics recomends you water between feeding but i use age old every day even had it set to 50:1 dial on my young mixer/proportioner just ran out of ferts too fast and desided they had too much so i slowed my roll to 70-80:1 and theirs no problems i (or my partner who has used it for the last 4+ seasons) find w/age old used daily threw this type of irrigation. this spring i had a seed crop i fed with 1 galon of ageold bloom plus a quart of age old kelp fed threw the young proportioner and hose via wand/shower head towards the end i dumbed the nutrient back into a bottle of age old grow i had replaced for the big season crop i put out may 10th -do some homework on your fert and have regard for the changes made, ive followed footsteps if a good frend and pound or 2 a plant yealds so im luck i had no reaserch and development like i had to do indoors to find dr earth starter and biobizz to over grow that garden too. organics are more forgiveing then say tiger bloom from fox farm -pbp isnt really organic i dont think, you could check the feeding shcedual for your nutrient online and see if it tells you to alternate betweed water and fertilizer like roots organics schedual or not -the guy at a grow store might not tell you that cause he wont sell 1/2 as much product otherwize - http://www.4hydroponics.com/nutrients/Mnl/RootsOrganics.pdf
biobizz says nothing about that http://www.gchydro.com/pdf/biobizz.pdf
eathjuice doesnt eather infact their right on the money with the name hydro-organics, http://www.atlantishydroponics.com/Merchant5/graphics/00000001/EarthJuiceFeedSchedule.pdf an organci fertilizer you use like a hydroponic run to waist system thats irrigated once a day feeding a concistant amount of nutrient for however many minutes a day outdoors and just makeing a consistant mix indoors each time like a hydroponic rez would be -but its airated overnight soo its a fresh solution made up each day.
i cant find a age old feed schedual but hears a few others for referance -fox farm says to feed with every other watering http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
pbp doesnt say so id assume its allright, i havent used it in so long http://www.atlantishydroponics.com/Merchant5/graphics/00000001/BotanicareFeedSchedule.pdf
if youve been feeding every time you irrigate then i wouldnt worry about it, stay with whatever consistancy you have just do it every day if you have alternated between water and fert the while grow then keep up that consistancy is all.
what plants i dont put in teh ground i put in a 30gal grow bag with fox farm soil and dr earth starter plus extra kelpmeal for micronutrients -i veged her since march sometime and put her out in mid-may, she's now 7ft wide and 8f tall i measure standing on a chair thats as tall as the grow bag is. -their big enough to grow huge bushes and tall enough to crawl threw the crop still, if the where side by aide all grown together. 30gal is probly the smallest id go outdoors for good production, id wouldnt move the 15ft plant if the 12 gal pot had roots growing into the dirt below -i had a buddy have this happen and it was ok just not a bumper yeald for that particular poted girl, i beleave the plants are prone to flowering earlier then expected when the roots are restricted. cause a few years back i had lowered one of theas growbags into the ground and the plant seemed to be ready to flower quicker -probly had to do with genetics it was a junk strain anyway, my partner used theas alot and i must have used like a cubic foor 1 1/2cf of compost in this seasons mix -another associate of mine just put me down on theas grow bags made from fabric and wires called smart pots, like what humble1 was geting to. their suposedly in all sizes but he's got the 100gal this season -they go up to 200gallon crazy rootmass if you can get it established proper like http://www.smartpots.com/
{"the Smart Pot was originally developed for and has been used by commercial tree growers for over twenty years."}
biobizz says nothing about that http://www.gchydro.com/pdf/biobizz.pdf
eathjuice doesnt eather infact their right on the money with the name hydro-organics, http://www.atlantishydroponics.com/Merchant5/graphics/00000001/EarthJuiceFeedSchedule.pdf an organci fertilizer you use like a hydroponic run to waist system thats irrigated once a day feeding a concistant amount of nutrient for however many minutes a day outdoors and just makeing a consistant mix indoors each time like a hydroponic rez would be -but its airated overnight soo its a fresh solution made up each day.
i cant find a age old feed schedual but hears a few others for referance -fox farm says to feed with every other watering http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
pbp doesnt say so id assume its allright, i havent used it in so long http://www.atlantishydroponics.com/Merchant5/graphics/00000001/BotanicareFeedSchedule.pdf
if youve been feeding every time you irrigate then i wouldnt worry about it, stay with whatever consistancy you have just do it every day if you have alternated between water and fert the while grow then keep up that consistancy is all.
what plants i dont put in teh ground i put in a 30gal grow bag with fox farm soil and dr earth starter plus extra kelpmeal for micronutrients -i veged her since march sometime and put her out in mid-may, she's now 7ft wide and 8f tall i measure standing on a chair thats as tall as the grow bag is. -their big enough to grow huge bushes and tall enough to crawl threw the crop still, if the where side by aide all grown together. 30gal is probly the smallest id go outdoors for good production, id wouldnt move the 15ft plant if the 12 gal pot had roots growing into the dirt below -i had a buddy have this happen and it was ok just not a bumper yeald for that particular poted girl, i beleave the plants are prone to flowering earlier then expected when the roots are restricted. cause a few years back i had lowered one of theas growbags into the ground and the plant seemed to be ready to flower quicker -probly had to do with genetics it was a junk strain anyway, my partner used theas alot and i must have used like a cubic foor 1 1/2cf of compost in this seasons mix -another associate of mine just put me down on theas grow bags made from fabric and wires called smart pots, like what humble1 was geting to. their suposedly in all sizes but he's got the 100gal this season -they go up to 200gallon crazy rootmass if you can get it established proper like http://www.smartpots.com/
{"the Smart Pot was originally developed for and has been used by commercial tree growers for over twenty years."}
here ya go
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=125242
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=125242
The answer is yes. As mentioned you will water more often to maintain growth. Heavier mulch and 1/3rd polymers will help a load too. I have always been an advocate of larger containers (They stop being pots when I couldn't lift em anymore, lol) as the larger mass has more moisture holding area. I have a 15 footer in a 20 gallon trash can but its not full. I left some space at the top for caging, camo and a lip for water running out.
medicine_man_bc
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just bury the plant dude. to suppot that height the roots need grabbing power
