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Clackamas Coot

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Dip-N-Grow has a product called Dip-Gel which is (according to their technical bulletin) "a carboxymethyl cellulose based product that when mixed with water is very thick and viscous. Unlike traditional surfactants and oils, Dip-Gel does not soften the cuticle to aid the movement of active ingredients into the leaf or stem."

I bought a lb. of the product to test. It's intended use is that you mix this powder with water (10 - 12 grams to 1 liter of pure water) which then becomes a gel. It is inert and it's intended use is to use their main product, Dip-N-Gro, with this gel vs. water. If you're currently using Dip-N-Gro and like the results, the Dip-Gel allows you to have it as a gel vs. the liquid version.

I knew from experience that using seaweed/kelp products is an effective way to root cuttings. In his book, Seaweed Agriculture and Horticulture (1968), the founder of Maxicrop, William Stephenson wrote, in part, the following:
Auxins in seaweed include indolyl-acetic acid, discovered in seaweed in 1933 for the first time. Two new auxins, as yet unidentified, but unlike any of the known indolyl-acetic acid types, were also discovered in 1958 in the Laminaria and Ascophyllum seaweeds used for processing into dried seaweed meal and liquid extract. These auxins have been found to encourage the growth of more cells -- in which they differ from more familiar types of auxin which simply enlarge the cells without increasing their number. One of the auxins also stimulates growth in both stems and roots of plants, and in this differs from indolyl-acetic acid and its derivatives, which cause cells to elongate but not to divide. The balanced action of this seaweed auxin has not been found in any other auxin.

It has been proved at the Marine Laboratory at Aberdeen that indolyl-acetic acid and the other newly discovered seaweed auxins are extracted in increased quantities by the process of alkaline hydrolysis. We believe that much of the value of our hydrolized seaweed extract is due to this auxin content; but since the amount of auxin in the extract is scarcely enough to promote the increased growth which follows its use as a foliar spray, we think plants so treated are themselves stimulated to produce more vitamins and growth hormones than would otherwise be the case.

At least two gibberellins (hormones which simply encourage growth, and have not, like auxins, growth-controlling properties too) have been identified in seaweed. They behave like those gibberellins which research workers have numbered A3 and A7 -- although they may in fact be vitamins A1 and A4.
I decided to use the Dip-Gel with kelp meal tea instead of plain water. I use 1/4 cup of kelp meal to 5 gallons of water and bubble it out for a couple of days to feed the plants.

To 1 quart of kelp meal tea I added 5 grams of Vitamin B-1 powder & 1/2 tsp. Endo mycorrhizae. Stirred and mixed well and I had a very inexpensive rooting gel.

I tested my cuttings using this gel in rockwool, Oasis cubes, a generic RapidRooter (unknown brand), 50% perlite/50% vermiculite and my usual method of rooting plants - straight into soil with a 20-oz. clear Dixie cup covering the cutting.

I did 4 different kitchen herbs for this test - Thai basil, Lemon Basil, rosemary and culantro (not cilantro) since herbs tend to take a bit longer to root than cannabis (especially rosemary). I did 4 cuttings each in Dip-N-Gro with the gel and also my concoction.

The rooting times were very similar with very slight differences. The main thing is that this alternative method is easy to mix up, inexpensive and equally effective.

Dip-N-Gro sells the Dip-Gel at their web site. The minimum order is 1 lb. @ $16.00 and given the usage rate, it should last you about 20+ years.

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jaykush

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cool beans....err umm i mean cuttings :). honey works well too for cuttings, specially when its fresh fresh fresh.
 

quadracer

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so which method rooted faster? Which had a better success rate? I've been having great luck with just water lately, but kelp is just amazing all around and it would be cool to develop a homemade solution.
 

Clackamas Coot

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so which method rooted faster? Which had a better success rate? I've been having great luck with just water lately, but kelp is just amazing all around and it would be cool to develop a homemade solution.
quadracer

The (very) minor differences were nothing worth noting. The straight soil and the RapidRooter method hit first, then Rockwool and then Oasis with the perlite/vermiculite method being the slowest. Still - all were completely set with massive root structure within 12-14 days.

I prefer the kelp method the best because it doesn't contain the high levels of alcohol that regular Dip-N-Gro contains.

Still - even if one wanted to continue with Dip-N-Gro, adding the Dip-Gel would improve the performance by having it suspended in a gel vs just dipping the stalk into the regular liquid mixture.

HTH

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Nice thread..

I was King of Cloning and the last few.. well the jury is still out on the second batch.

Getting ready to make soil blocks again today and will use some kelp in the watering..

So great thread to read right off..

Jack'
 

habeeb

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yeah I like rapid rooters as they seem to allow alot of air. also like straight coco, try it out sometime.

kelp and straight water work for me

good stuff CC, nice writeup, very detailed
 

Clackamas Coot

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dpmg;e69

My concoction doesn't include Dip-N-Gro. It's only using the Dip-Gel product.

Sorry for any miscommunication on my part.

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Clackamas Coot

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No but it is 'approved for organic growing' - this is the weird deal about 'organic amendments' and/or 'organic agents' in general.

The law is pretty loose both at the state as well as the federal level.

I speak as a 15-year member of the Oregon Tilth deal.

HTH

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geopolitical

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You could also just go pick a few willow tips and make your own rooting solution. Zero cost, 100% organic.
 

geopolitical

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I don't have any weeping, but I'd think most willow species would have the requisite hormones & other such to work. I've tried river willow and shrub willow and they've both worked well.
 

Mr. Greengenes

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geopoliticals suggestion of weeping willow is one my grandmother often used. I recall that she was able to root green shoots of stuff like peach and plum by putting them in water with the weeping willow shoots. The hormones in the willow stimulate rooting in the other species. I'm really amazed that you mentioned that geo. Are you some kind of woods druid lurking here with us humans? How old are you any way, like 150?
 

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