Germinating Question

[DeepPurpleHaze]

I started germinating some White Rhino and Zona seeds a few days ago. I decided to use the wet paper towel and zip lock way. The seeds popped open pretty quickly and are showing a tiny bit of root. After they popped, the tail never got any longer, i see a lot of people's seeds get 1/2"- 3/4" tail before they put in growing medium. My question is, should i wait a bit longer or should i go ahead and place in the rockwool. Thanks everyone.

-Purp

 

[BURNING SKY]

I hope by telling you my method it will break some of your confusion my friend... I believe the tail you refer to as the tap root. This little root is delicate and is also the main start of your seedling... As for my method I soak all seeds in water for no longer than 24 hours whether or not they sink in the water or not 24 hours is all they need. Many times I have seeds germ within a few hours in the glass they will actually split open and the tap root will expose itself. Even with this happening I will still place under a moist paper towel untill they all germ obviously at different times. I have many friends who germ right out of soil. So as for the tap root I would say this If you know how to do everything else correctly and the length of the tap root is a concern you should use your own judgement. I have large nubby fingers so if I let it get to long the lack of delicate touch i dont possess will break them while transplanting into my media...
obviously you want to give them the best start but sometimes doing to much will be just that, to much.....

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

I hope by telling you my method it will break some of your confusion my friend... I believe the tail you refer to as the tap root. This little root is delicate and is also the main start of your seedling... As for my method I soak all seeds in water for no longer than 24 hours whether or not they sink in the water or not 24 hours is all they need. Many times I have seeds germ within a few hours in the glass they will actually split open and the tap root will expose itself. Even with this happening I will still place under a moist paper towel untill they all germ obviously at different times. I have many friends who germ right out of soil. So as for the tap root I would say this If you know how to do everything else correctly and the length of the tap root is a concern you should use your own judgement. I have large nubby fingers so if I let it get to long the lack of delicate touch i dont possess will break them while transplanting into my media...
obviously you want to give them the best start but sometimes doing to much will be just that, to much.....

Thanks Sky-

I did place these in water overnight before putting into the wet towels. I guess i need to go ahead and place them into the rockwool cubes before they get to delicate. I have the same problem you do, big nubby fingers ready to break tap roots at any given time lol.

-Purp

 

[Budley Doright]

What often happens when germinating seeds especially if they are old....

The seeds crack the tail peeks out and thats it.....


This is the reason I plant my seeds when the tail is about 3x as long as the seed....


Some never grow that much....



Taps is heard in the distance.....



Im right now germinating some seeds that have been in the frig some years.....

I have quite a few that I can see the tail but they arent growing....

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

What often happens when germinating seeds especially if they are old....

The seeds crack the tail peeks out and thats it.....


This is the reason I plant my seeds when the tail is about 3x as long as the seed....


Some never grow that much....



Taps is heard in the distance.....



Im right now germinating some seeds that have been in the frig some years.....

I have quite a few that I can see the tail but they arent growing....

The Arizona that I started is pretty old stuff, been storing it for some time now. The White Rhino I got from a friend who says its only a few months old.

So should i just give up on the old junk and keep going with the White Rhino or just put them all in some rockwool and see what happens.

-Purp

 

[Budley Doright]

We both know you will feel better if you put them in rockwool......

like you say..... it wont hurt anything

 

[lysol]

Yuh bro that zona isnt that good for growing, long flower times fluffy low potency buds, high yield tho

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

We both know you will feel better if you put them in rockwool......

like you say..... it wont hurt anything

Ill let ya know if they pop through the soil in a few days!

Lysol - Its the only thing I had laying around man, I'm not looking for anything special - Zona is better than no weed at all! The white rhino should be some pretty nice stuff, I'm actually just doing this grow to get some more seeds for the next season.

-Purp

 

[yortbogey]

use tweezerz....to transfer the seedz.....

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

Well i checked the seeds today, the older Zona seeds are looking good. The tap roots are starting to pop out a good bit. The White Rhino seeds look about the same as the did - just popped open with a little tail showing. I smelled the bag and its smelling pretty rank. Should I put them into a new set of wet paper towels or is it fine? Thanks

-Purp

 

[FreezerBoy]

Paper towels have no magical powers of germination. Wet soil will not dry out your seed. Warm soil will not freeze your seed. Whatever you think they'll do in paper they'll do better in soil, rockwool. pellets etc. and better yet they'll be planted. The only benefits to paper towels are a greater chance of mold, rot, disease, root breakage and death.

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

Paper towels have no magical powers of germination. Wet soil will not dry out your seed. Warm soil will not freeze your seed. Whatever you think they'll do in paper they'll do better in soil, rockwool. pellets etc. and better yet they'll be planted. The only benefits to paper towels are a greater chance of mold, rot, disease, root breakage and death.

FreezerBoy- Thanks for the info man, I'm gonna try to get them into some pucks tomorrow and get them out of those napkins.

-Purp

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

Well I got all the seeds into the pucks and they are getting some light. Only one of the White Rhino were popped open and it wasn't looking that good. All the others were popped and looking nice - i guess only time will tell. I put them into a big field where i live so they can get some sunlight. When i go to water them, does the water need to be any certain temperature? I was thinking of just buying some bottled water and leaving it in my truck - i didnt know if it would matter if the water gets to hot sitting in the truck to hurt the babies.

-Purp

 

[FreezerBoy]

You can kill a seed with excessive temps. I'd shoot for 75º + or - 5º.

 

[DeepPurpleHaze]

You can kill a seed with excessive temps. I'd shoot for 75º + or - 5º.

JEEEEZZZ, so many specific variables... lol

I guess i will have to put a bottle in the fridge - so by the time i go through the 1 mile hike to get to these babies , it will be the perfect temp. Fun Stuff...

 

[FreezerBoy]

Yeah, me and my rules .... anyway, thought we were talking germination. Seeds are built to survive several months of sub freezing temps. Just don't allow +80º temps for any long periods.

 

[Budley Doright]

Paper towels have no magical powers of germination. Wet soil will not dry out your seed. Warm soil will not freeze your seed. Whatever you think they'll do in paper they'll do better in soil, rockwool. pellets etc. and better yet they'll be planted. The only benefits to paper towels are a greater chance of mold, rot, disease, root breakage and death.

I really like the fact that ic mag has given the title of mentor out....
I think its a good thing...
I was a mentor myself for quite a long time on OG....

I use paper towels myself and dont plan on changing....

You are correct when you say "warm soil'

However I suspect many seeds are lost when they are planted in too cold medium....

As with any seed to grow you need both moisture and warmth....

Its much easier to supply that in paper towel form.....

Plus if you are paying attention you can plant the seed right at the top of the soil line.... That will begin photosynthesis(the stem geens up often before it moves away from the soil)

I use only the resources I need.....

I can tell if the root structure looks normal before I plant it.....

There are lots of advantages to paper towell thats why so many use this method of germination.....




I think mentors need to see more than one side of the picture or they really are not mentoring....

Its hard to get the world to do it your way when there are lots of ways to do anything.....