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cannabisoptimus

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Forensic Containment Rules.

This is a rough protocol for a large scale indoor medical cannabis grow(shop) to help "police" any stray forensic evidence that could tie you to the shop. This is for California, but especially for the less optimal states.

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1. Before going to your Shop, Shower thoroughly. Exfoliate all skin and wash/condition hair 2x. This removes loose and excess DNA from body.

2. Latex gloves must ALWAYS be worn.

3. Implement a head covering. Hairnet plus baseball cap.

4. All work is done in a jumpsuit that is put on prior to entering work area.

5. Take extreme care in flushing and leaving DNA evidence(hair, fluids) while using only 1 restroom.

6. Take extreme care in changing of latex gloves. Do not touch ANYTHING.

7. Make sure the restroom you used and all other places with a higher probability of leaving DNA/ANY evidence have been thoroughly washed with bleach at least 2x.

Keep all Forensic Containment gear in a small, easily portable bag or case.

Remember, you can NEVER be too careful. Might seem paranoid to some, but your freedom is NOT worth a little bit of laziness.

-Cannabis Optimus
 
geopolitical

geopolitical

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QUIT SMOKING SO MANY SATIVAS. . .no really, it's okay man. Besides, they can already read your thoughts through your underwear elastic. . .

Plus bleach won't destroy most trace evidence. Worse yet, it'll show signs of an attempt to obscure evidence. Generally that is a crime in and of itself that they'll tack onto your initial charge if they're really torqued at you.

Also, you're leaving fingerprints on the INSIDE OF THE GLOVES. Durr. . . also your jumpsuit will be covered in material from the grow on the outside and material from you on the inside! Genius!

Also, latex gloves will still leave trace prints. If you really want to avoid those, wear a thin liner glove UNDER the latex glove. For that matter I have this image of a guy . . .a guy wearing a jumpsuit. . latex gloves. . .a hairnet. . .a baseball hat. . .carrying a dufflebag. . .

God, I bet that won't raise any suspicions. . .

In summation. .

what is wrong with you?


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cannabisoptimus

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>and then they checked the name on the electricity bill.

You would obviously be using a burn house. AKA, ONE THAT HAS NO PAPER TRAIL TO YOU. If you are not aware of the multiple ways to obtain a house in such a way without putting anybody at undue risk, this protocol isn't for you.

>QUIT SMOKING SO MANY SATIVAS. . .no really, it's okay man. Besides, they can >already read your thoughts through your underwear elastic. . .

Come talk to me again when you have put your freedom on the line to provide cannabis to people who are dying of various types of cancer. I would rather NOT go to jail, and if you are going to do something, why not do it properly? Anything short is lazy and moronic.

>Plus bleach won't destroy most trace evidence. Worse yet, it'll show signs of an attempt >to obscure evidence. Generally that is a crime in and of itself that they'll tack onto your >initial charge if they're really torqued at you.

You have certainly done your research!! I am going to suggest that you read Coroner's Journal by Louis Cataldie, Practical Drug Enforcement, Third Edition (Practical Aspects of Criminal and Forensic Investigations) by Michael D. Lyman, and Practical Homicide Investigation, Fourth Edition by Vernon J. Geberth

Bleach DOES in fact destroy most if not ALL organic matter. Especially 2 separate applications. Cleaning is not a crime. Destroying evidence is a crime. Therefore, if you clean up the scene of a crime prior to being under surveillance and raided, there is no proof whatsoever that you committed any illegal act. Now if you are being survailled and LEO catch you cleaning up your shop, you are already way past preventative measures and are on to damage control.


>Also, you're leaving fingerprints on the INSIDE OF THE GLOVES. Durr. . . also your >jumpsuit will be covered in material from the grow on the outside and material from >you on the inside! Genius!

Um....BURN THE GLOVES GENIUS. Wow, buddy, I am sure glad you are not involved in any way with any operations I have had the pleasure of being a part of. Obviously you would follow the logical step of WASHING your jumpsuit. And again, if you get caught with a dirty jumpsuit, you have MUCH bigger problems and are not messing around with preventative measures at that point. THIS PROTOCOL IS FOR MAINTAINING A SECURE FACILITY, NOT FOR CLEANING UP AFTER STUPID MISTAKES.

>Also, latex gloves will still leave trace prints. If you really want to avoid those, wear a >thin liner glove UNDER the latex glove. For that matter I have this image of a guy . . .a >guy wearing a jumpsuit. . latex gloves. . .a hairnet. . .a baseball hat. . .carrying a >dufflebag. . .>God, I bet that won't raise any suspicions. . .

GET RID OF THE GLOVES. Not a hard concept. Logically your FC kit would be in your vehicle as you drove into an attached garage where you may then change into your jumpsuit. If you are going to raise suspicions before you are even growing, that would be a good way....hahaha...walking into a 5 bedroom house with your FC gear on.

>In summation. .
>what is wrong with you?

Apparently I tend to actually think my illicit though morally right actions through thoroughly as opposed to being a lax/lazy oldhead who grows for personal use and has "flowered from seed multiple times..." Enough said....

Some of us actually care about the sick and oppressed and have done something about it, and aren't willing to risk our patients freedom as well as our own.

And the real question is, what is wrong with you? This is a tried and true protocol. I welcome intelligent criticism of any of the concepts I use or work with, but you failed to provide the intelligent part.

Don't let the New Member status fool you, I am sure you know my previous handle as I have been around since OG first came online.

Sorry if this came off negatively, I just expect more from my fellow Cannagraphers...
 
JWH-018

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Weedman Herb

So we have a throw away house a throw away life and a plan to keep that safe? I like how he uses the term Burn for the house ... sounds like a twist on the name for the stolen cars that crack heads use ... a "smoker" ... (as Herb puts on his recently double bleached Lead Suit and Foil Headgear) My roof is metal ... and magnetized too ... you can Never be too careful ... particularly when your only pic is a bag of FFOF.
 
kmk420kali

kmk420kali

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cannabisoptimus said:
Some of us actually care about the sick and oppressed and have done something about it, and aren't willing to risk our patients freedom as well as our own.

And the real question is, what is wrong with you? This is a tried and true protocol. I welcome intelligent criticism of any of the concepts I use or work with, but you failed to provide the intelligent part.

Don't let the New Member status fool you, I am sure you know my previous handle as I have been around since OG first came online.

Sorry if this came off negatively, I just expect more from my fellow Cannagraphers...
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Why not do it legally?? Since you are helping patients, I take it you are in a Medi-State?? If it is California, then I know for fact it isn't that difficult--
 
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idea

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thanks for the advice. being too paranoid isn't good if for no other reason than you look nervous and that is a killer.

but personally plans like this help relax me because they cut down on the ways i can fuck up and it only takes a little extra discipline, but if it is too extreme for anyone then do it your own way. no one is forcing anyone to do anything.

i always appreciate well thought-out safety plans even if I never have to use them. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of kind.
 
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hamstring

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I have to say I have been on forums for years and never heard of a guy/gal getting busted for DNA evidence in a grow house. Its been said so many times what actually gets you busted is loose lips not DNA evidence.

If have to worry about DNA than you are f***ed anyway right. They don’t wander in a grow house without already knowing a little about what’s going down.

Someone always and I mean always gets busted when the come in the house. It may be some poor lackey who is getting $10/hr to stay there but he’s still busted nothing DNA is going to help.

Damn dude how you running your operation? Burning gloves and washing jump suits do you really think they wont stake the house out looking for a guy in moon boots?
 
geopolitical

geopolitical

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Pythagllio said:
I'd like to meet the pothead that could actually maintain the proposed protocol.
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I would buy that man a sandwich, except he couldn't eat it in front of me without first passing it through a hermetic seal in order to avoid leaving any trace dna on the wrapper. . .
 
nephilthim

nephilthim

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bubble boy meets bubble girl bouncing bumping but truly never touching...hmm sounds like a latex fetish too me! get a fun girl to go with all that gear and send me pics thnx
 
Verite

Verite

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So I guess shooting jizz all over the place is out of the question?

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