Black leaves?

[ToughGirl]

Weird question, one of my plants is almost done blooming. It's very healthy and the buds are huge, 20' long and thicker than a can of pop. She's about 2 weeks before harvest at best. Now she's become striped on the bud leaves, like a bumble bee. I have never seen this before and since it's one of my hybrids it's unusual that she is the only one with this trait. Has anyone seen anything like this? She is really healthy and strong, no stripes on the fan leaves just the bud leaves. I've had red and purple stripes before, but not black. Any thoughts?

 

[Yeti]

This does happen. I wouldn't worry about it. It is likely the phenotype. I have seen a deep chunk do it, though no quite black like that, it was a very deep purple with similar striping.

If you don't mind me asking, who were the parents to that hybrid.

 

[ToughGirl]

Dad was big bud (everyones dad is BB in my grow), mom is unknown. When I planted my last grow I just lost track. In my defense it was a really busy summer. Whatever it was, I have more seeds (all labeled), I just don't know which one it was from. The leaves are in between an indica and a sativa, so that doesn't help. It is an enormous producer and I hope that whatever it is, the other seeds carry the same traits. I have grown a lot of plants through the years, but this one is by far the nicest, largest, strongest, disease resistant plant I have ever seen.

 

[Weedman Herb]

I had a Garlic Bud that went absolutely Black on the upper portion and a light blue/grey on the under sides ... Nothing to worry about there IMHO ... Nice looking buds ...

 

[ToughGirl]

Here's a picture right before the leaves started changing. You can see that there are indica and sativa looking leaves on the same plant.

I'm not really worried about it, but I am slightly confused since I have never seen this before in my strains.

 

[Maj.PotHead]

your plant looks very healthy looks like you've been on flush your plants are usen the nutrients stored in the leaves. when the nutes have been used up leaves turn color even in warmer temps i have plants that can and do turn color in 85 degree temps during flower

 

[ToughGirl]

I'm pretty religious about flushing them near the end. Occasionally I'll even cut the stalk and let them sit in a bubble bucket for about 2-3 days before trimming and hanging to dry. This one has fooled me though since the hairs really don't want to turn red. Usually I do let them burn through most of the fan leaves, I'm in no hurry. I like when there aren't any fan leaves left at the end, just buds. It looks like hell, but makes a better end product and honestly it helps when trimming. One less thing, you know?

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

I'm pretty religious about flushing them near the end. Occasionally I'll even cut the stalk and let them sit in a bubble bucket for about 2-3 days before trimming and hanging to dry.

Why?,.....What purpose do U belive this serves?
R U under the impression that that is flushing them further?​

 

[ToughGirl]

Is this the old flushing debate? To flush or not to flush? That is the question...

It's probably an old wives tale, but I do it when a plant finishes a little too quickly and I didn't flush it well. The theory behind it is pretty sound since water will circulate through a plants system for a few days. If it works and creates a smoother smoke, isn't it worth waiting a few extra days in the grand scheme of things? And if it really doesn't work, there's no harm.

I read about it some time ago and I do it occasionally.

 

[LlamaSchool]

Occasionally I'll even cut the stalk and let them sit in a bubble bucket for about 2-3 days before trimming and hanging to dry.

I'm no expert, but I don't understand why the surface area of the huge root ball wouldn't absorb more water than a cut stem... I'm not debating flushing but this doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[lordbudly]

I'm no expert, but I don't understand why the surface area of the huge root ball wouldn't absorb more water than a cut stem... I'm not debating flushing but this doesn't really make sense to me.

because it would be dirty ?? 5 gallon rootbound plant, wash out all of that dirt from roots that want to cling on to it.... gl

 

[LlamaSchool]

Lodbudly - are you being sarcastic? If not, you know we're not trying to flush dirt, we're trying to flush the nutrients...

 

[Hazy Lady]

Stem Bubbling Flush

Stem Bubbling Flush

Let's just assume it work's and reason why, if the stem is cut and the plant lives on in plain ph'd water for a few day's it can't find any nutrients except in it's own leaves etc, 3 day's of this must use up more nutrients and would be a quicker flush than normal without the rootball and medium to also leach. does that make sense? as i said this is IF it work's could this be why?, i would reserve judgment for now but say it has more of a ring of something than the average potency increasing urban myth.

 

[lordbudly]

Lodbudly - are you being sarcastic? If not, you know we're not trying to flush dirt, we're trying to flush the nutrients...

no no i am not, alright, you try to keep all the dirt from whatever you flowered in WHILE having it in a bubble? GL i say again

 

[ToughGirl]

You cut the entire stalk off at the base. So there is no soil what so ever. The bottom of the cut stalk is then placed in a 5 gallon bucket (with about 3 gallons of water in it) with a fish tank aerator/bubblestone in it. It sits there for about 3 days, and you change the water every day. No soil touches the water at all, that would be a nasty mess and a good way to ruin a bubble stone. It's not to increase potency at all, it's to remove all the nutrients left in the buds themselves, thus theoretically creating a smoother smoke.

Does it work? I really don't know. Maybe it's just a placebo effect. But the same thing can be said about normal flushing before harvest. Some believe in it, some don't. But since I'm growing for me only, I want the smoothest, best tasting smoke available, don't you?

 

[dobo]

I would say its a placebo effect, plants work like pumps they suck out the moisture
+ nutrients from the soil transfer the water/nutes from cell to cell throughout the plant, when you cut the plants through the stalk they need to roots to be formed before this process will start again, the only way the plant will absorb water/nutrients is through the leaves in the form of misting...this is the reason you keep the humidity up when your cloneing because if you don't the plants won't absorb any water and will wilt as there is no water in the cells making the plant "turgid"

Just my opinion feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[ToughGirl]

Well you don't have to do it. Trust me I don't force my growing technique on anyone. I do what I do and I probably will never change. I believe there is something to it. When you were a kid, did you ever cut a flower and put it in a cup of food coloured water? Then the flower turns the same colour as the dye in the cup. Why is that? Because a cut plant can in fact circulate water through it's system for days without roots. But after 3-4 days they start to wilt. I agree with what you're saying about cloning, but did you ever notice they don't droop until after 3-4 days? The same as roses or daisies.

Here's where people snap; if you put concentrated flavours in the bucket, the plant will take on the flavour, like orange or pineapple or coconut, etc. It does work and though I occasionally do it, please don't crucify me over it. (people take that flavouring thing really seriously)

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

Here's where people snap; if you put concentrated flavours in the bucket, the plant will take on the flavour, like orange or pineapple or coconut, etc. It does work and though I occasionally do it, please don't crucify me over it. (people take that flavouring thing really seriously)

LMAO.....U flush to REMOVE starches and sugars from the plant..
Then
U
Add other starches and sugars in the form of a Flavoring?
That who knows what they turn into when burned?​

 

[ToughGirl]

The point was that water will in fact continue to circulate after the stalk is chopped. I gave two examples of why I am sure it does. You've left two comments both showing that you think you're witty, or smart. Look, if you don't like what I have to say, then fuck off! Your input is neither desired or required. Go criticize someone else.

 

[yortbogey]

The point was that water will in fact continue to circulate after the stalk is chopped. I gave two examples of why I am sure it does. You've left two comments both showing that you think you're witty, or smart. Look, if you don't like what I have to say, then fuck off! Your input is neither desired or required. Go criticize someone else.

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