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WHAB

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The following ACTION has been approved for ALL AUDIENCES by Safer Alternative For Enjoyable Recreation (SAFER).

At a press conference in California last week, President Obama's new drug czar claimed, "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit." Meanwhile, President Obama was at the White House, trying to defuse the situation surrounding the controversial and highly publicized arrest of his friend, Harvard Professor Henry Lewis Gates, by inviting him and the arresting officer to the White House for a beer.

Yes, that's right. Just after President Obama's top drug policy official declared marijuana "dangerous," the President himself was touting the calming and beneficial effect of consuming alcohol, a substance that is far more dangerous than marijuana that -- unlike marijuana -- actually contributes to violent and aggressive behavior.

CLICK HERE to TAKE ACTION and send a quick message to President Obama, letting him know you are appalled by the anti-marijuana, pro-alcohol message his administration is sending to Americans of all ages, and urging him to offer Professor Gates and the arresting officer a safer alternative to alcohol at their White House meeting. Then forward this alert to anyone you know who might be interested in doing so, as well. (This action is also available at http://tinyurl.com/mjvtma)

The following BOOK has been rated "IMPORTANT" by several prominent individuals and organizations:

As a SAFER supporter, you probably detect the absurdity and irony of the situation with Obama mentioned above. Yet much of the media has failed to pick up on it, and many Americans are still oblivious to the fact that marijuana is far safer than alcohol both for the user and for society. Our efforts to change all that and spread the truth about marijuana are about to get a major boost.

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Next week, SAFER will launch Marijuana Is Safer: So why are we driving people to drink?, the highly acclaimed new book that promises to change the way people think -- and talk -- about marijuana. The book is co-authored by leaders of three of the most effective organizations working to reform marijuana laws -- SAFER Executive Director Mason Tvert, MPP Director of State Initiatives (and SAFER Co-founder) Steve Fox, and NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano -- and it features a foreword by former Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper. It has received advance praise from a variety of prominent individuals, and it is already beginning to cause a stir in the media -- check out the recent Reuters newswire column, "Driven to drink by marijuana laws?"

Marijuana Is Safer is already shooting up the Amazon.com rankings, and SAFER will be doing a whole lot to promote it over the next couple months. We hope you will help us spread the word and make this important book -- and the truth it contains -- a wildly popular best-seller read by millions across the nation. You can do so now by forwarding this e-mail to anyone you think might be interested -- or by simply posting the book's URL (www.MarijuanaIsSafer.com) to your Facebook, Twitter, or MySpace page -- otherwise we will be in touch again soon to let you know of other ways you can help.

Get an advanced copy and help us celebrate!

Marijuana Is Safer will premiere next week on Tuesday, August 4, at the Oaksterdam University Student Union in Oakland, California. Along with OU, the event is being co-hosted by SAFER, NORML and the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP), and co-authors Mason Tvert and Paul Armentano will be at the event to discuss the book and sign the first copies to be made available to the public. The book will then be made available to the crowd of 200,000+ at the world's largest pro-marijuana rally and festival, Seattle Hempfest, from August 15-16. Rounding out August will be SAFER's Launch Party on Sunday, August 23rd, in Denver, Colorado -- ground zero of the "Marijuana Is Safer" movement.

Check out our initial tour schedule below and be sure to check back to http://www.MarijuanaIsSafer.com for more event dates and information.

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All the best to you all!!! Good luck guys!

Take care everyone :wave:,
WHAB
 
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Blue Dot

I smoke AND I drink.

Together preferably ( ;) )

Yes, drinking and driving is bad (duh) so why rail on the "calming" effect of alcohol when pot provides a "similar" calming effect?

Isn't that hypocritical?

Now granted if you're an angry drunk then alcohol isn't for you but not everyone is an angry drunk.

I'm just saying it's a little self-righteous to tout MJ as the ultimate substance and completely turn a blind eye to a substance (alcohol) that is an integral part of human history.

If someone can't handle their liquor, don't blame the liquor, blame the person.

Did you know alcohol is a GABA agonist in the brain and GABA is an endogenous neurotransmitter that regulates inhibition AND relaxation.

wikipedia said:
Pharmacology
Drugs that act as agonists of GABA receptors (known as GABA analogues or GABAergic drugs) or increase the available amount of GABA typically have relaxing, anti-anxiety and anti-convulsive effects.[19] Many of the substances below are known to cause anterograde amnesia and retrograde amnesia.

GABAergic Drugs
GABAA receptor ligands
Agonists/Positive allosteric modulators: alcohol, barbiturates, benzodiazepines, carisoprodol, etomidate, glutethimide, L-theanine, kava, methaqualone, muscimol, neuroactive steroids, nonbenzodiazepines, propofol, scullcap, valerian, volatile/inhaled anaesthetics.

So MJ just increases an already present amount of anandimide in the brain whereas alcohol just releases more GABA.
Sounds similar to me so why can't the two COEXIST?
 

WHAB

Active member
I smoke AND I drink.

Together preferably ( ;) )

Yes, drinking and driving is bad (duh) so why rail on the "calming" effect of alcohol when pot provides a "similar" calming effect?

Isn't that hypocritical?

Now granted if you're an angry drunk then alcohol isn't for you but not everyone is an angry drunk.

I'm just saying it's a little self-righteous to tout MJ as the ultimate substance and completely turn a blind eye to a substance (alcohol) that is an integral part of human history.

If someone can't handle their liquor, don't blame the liquor, blame the person.

Did you know alcohol is a GABA agonist in the brain and GABA is an endogenous neurotransmitter that regulates inhibition AND relaxation.



So MJ just increases an already present amount of anandimide in the brain whereas alcohol just releases more GABA.
Sounds similar to me so why can't the two COEXIST?


You want to be argumentative just to be argumentative?

The message is that MJ is SAFER...get it?

If you don't agree with the message that's fine...

IF you want to argue the point....I'm sure there is a signpost near you.

:wave:,
WHAB
 
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Blue Dot

The message is that MJ is SAFER...get it?

No, not really.

My grandfather drank till the day he died @ 95 so that kinda blows the arguement of how alcohol destroys the body out of the water.

If you mean safer in terms how people behave under the influence then like I said, if you are an angry drunk alcohol isn't for you.

I agree that DUI is probably the stupidest thing a person could do but I don't really condone driving under the influence of MJ either.

I think driving under the influence of ANY psychoactive drug is a bad idea so what exactly is safer about MJ?
 

FreedomFGHTR

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I think driving under the influence of ANY psychoactive drug is a bad idea so what exactly is safer about MJ?

Would you like to hear about how I went to the DMV on 5 hits of paper and got my drivers license 9 years ago! I'm still baffed as to how I passed the vision test!
 

PondeLftHndSide

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I remember in a 1980's High Times, someone grabbed the then-current Drug Czar's water glass after a speaking engagement, and it was spiked with gin.

Would you like to hear about how I went to the DMV on 5 hits of paper and got my drivers license 9 years ago! I'm still baffed as to how I passed the vision test!

Holy shit, Freedom!!

For the record, my first official act as a licensed driver at age 17 was to light up a bowl with my friends in the back of my Westphalia camper in the DMV parking lot. But that was after the test...
 

JJScorpio

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No, not really.

My grandfather drank till the day he died @ 95 so that kinda blows the arguement of how alcohol destroys the body out of the water.

If you mean safer in terms how people behave under the influence then like I said, if you are an angry drunk alcohol isn't for you.

I agree that DUI is probably the stupidest thing a person could do but I don't really condone driving under the influence of MJ either.

I think driving under the influence of ANY psychoactive drug is a bad idea so what exactly is safer about MJ?

Tell that to all the relatives of the hundreds of thousands that have been killed by drunk drivers. Or the high percent of the prison pop that were drunk when they committed their crimes. Or you could even tell it to the tens of thousands that die from alcohol related illnesses each year. You really need to watch the painful death of someone with cirrhosis of the liver... Your Grandfather was the rare exception to lifelong drinking....
 
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Blue Dot

Tell that to all the relatives of the hundreds of thousands that have been killed by drunk drivers...

I just did. (BTW, I'm sure it's Millons by now, a point not lost on me).

What did you misunderstand about:

I agree that DUI is probably the stupidest thing a person could do....

I think driving under the influence of ANY psychoactive drug is a bad idea...
 

WHAB

Active member
No, not really.

My grandfather drank till the day he died @ 95 so that kinda blows the arguement of how alcohol destroys the body out of the water.

If you mean safer in terms how people behave under the influence then like I said, if you are an angry drunk alcohol isn't for you.

I agree that DUI is probably the stupidest thing a person could do but I don't really condone driving under the influence of MJ either.

I think driving under the influence of ANY psychoactive drug is a bad idea so what exactly is safer about MJ?


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:wave:,
WHAB
 

FreedomFGHTR

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Holy shit, Freedom!!

For the record, my first official act as a licensed driver at age 17 was to light up a bowl with my friends in the back of my Westphalia camper in the DMV parking lot. But that was after the test...
Yeah it was the DMV in San Francisco on Fell street. Right near the Haight. People turned into sheep and shit there. The security guard turned into the terminator. REally I didn't expect to see my DL with me all tripped out.
 
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Blue Dot

Good to see you back FF.

So does your DL picture have you looking like a deer caught in the headlights with pupils the size of dinner plates and is the same damn picture they just keep recyling over and over on every re-iteration of your renewal DL. :)
 
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ikillspies

Regardless of whether or not alcohol is safe in moderation or cannabis is some kind of impairment, I feel this about the message our president is sending to the many kids out there that look up to him, and the hypocrisy of it in that message.

I like to drink, get faded, whatever... But we all know the dank and alcohol are worlds apart in terms of danger. Don't we? Thanks for the post, WHAB.
 

FreedomFGHTR

Active member
Veteran
Good to see you back FF.

So does your DL picture have you looking like a deer caught in the headlights with pupils the size of dinner plates and is the same damn picture they just keep recyling over and over on every re-iteration of your renewal DL. :)

Nah It got taken back before they let you keep using the same picture. and Yeah thats exactly how I looked in the pic!
 

PondeLftHndSide

Member
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Not to hijack the thread or make light of the serious issues being discussed, but like Johnny Rotten's high school portrait? He apparently had a headful in this picture...

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DogBoy

When you ban alcohol people get guns and go mental, when you ban herb people go on the internet and moan a lot. It's simply the path of least resistance.
 
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ikillspies

I dunno?? i asked WHAB and he replied with a red x.

Maybe you can tell me EXACTLY the differences?

Without having to go too far into it, can you give me an instance when someone has died directly from the use of cannabis, other than some freak of nature circumstances? But yeah, I'm not for any type of prohibition, it doesn't work.

You're right Dogboy but that should change, and soon...
 

WHAB

Active member
I dunno?? i asked WHAB and he replied with a red x.

Maybe you can tell me EXACTLY the differences?


I was quite plain with you. I told you I wasn't going to argue the point with you.

This V V V is not an argument...this V V V is a stand alone statement that does not require a response.

It's never taken me three days to get my head straight after marijuana bender...

not so an alcohol bender.

Need a new signpost?

:wave:,
WHAB
 

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